Skip to comments.Muslims in fatal denial of HIV/AIDS
Posted on 07/17/2005 10:08:48 PM PDT by F14 PilotEdited on 07/17/2005 10:40:02 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Few Islamic countries have taken steps to tackle the pandemic as the death toll continues to mount.
''I just pray that God ends my life before more symptoms show. I don't want to create problems for my family.''
Before his HIV-positive diagnosis in 2001, the Egyptian engineer who spoke these words thought that AIDS was a faraway disease that afflicted only foreigners. He had no idea that the global AIDS pandemic had reached his country. Now he says he would rather kill himself than be rejected along with his family by neighbors and friends, who regard HIV as synonymous with sin and shame.
(Excerpt) Read more at thestandard.com.hk ...
Denial ain't a river in Egypt.
But honestly, this is serious!
well afterall, you always here that men are for pleasure and women for babies in the muslim world.
hard to believe, but....
Ill winds, and all that.
Can camels, sheep or goats get AIDS?
Yeah... I'm heard some sick sick stories about Iraq and Afganistan and not about the Taliban or terrorists. Don't be fooled, those people are not "people yearning to be free" they are culturally entrenched in widespread rape, abuse of women, and homosexuality.
Where's the outrage from PETA?
I knew all that bending over in their majids would lead to trouble..
Maybe they are trying for 72 on the front end and counting on the post mortum 72 promised.
Isn't Islam wonderful? There is a solution for any personal problem.
Dance with the Devil...
They should try reading Deuteronomy and the Judges then they see what awaits them. They won't so......
---Don't be fooled, those people are not "people yearning to be free" they are culturally entrenched in widespread rape, abuse of women, and homosexuality.---
Gee, that sounds familiar. Wonder where I've seen that sort of thing going on?
on the one hand: I am disinclined to weep for those who catch lethal pathogens by engaging in gross and promiscuous sexual activities. Reap what you sow, and all that.
on the other hand: if this leads to a massive reduction in the teeming hordes of militant Muslims who are, don't doubt it, our enemies... the pragmatic and inhuman part of me would be tempted to call this a good thing.
on the other other hand: I can easily see how some clever swot might gin up a fatwa claiming that those with AIDS can cleanse themselves of their defilement and remove the dishonor they have brought on their families by strapping on Semtex jumpsuit and blowing themselves up amidst the infidels in the Dar al Harb. Hell - it'd be a two-fer: explosive damage and biological warfare.
so, in sum: I am hard pressed to say whether I find this information good, bad, or indifferent.
I'll drink to that news........Bottoms Up! ragheads.
We can only hope.
Well, if the men keep buggering the boys and passing them around, just what do they expect?
By crikey, that's terrible news!
hmmmmmm, I wonder if any of the homicide bombers have had aids? If they want to end it all partly because of that? Saves them shame, and they get to go to paradise.
"The disease is spreading quickly, and without proper prevention and treatment, many more Muslims will become infected and die."
Psssst ... are they a bunch of homos?
Ask any returning male soldier from Iraq if they heard the term "men are for sex, women are for babies" and you will get
1. A huge laugh
2. A query from the soldier "how did you know about that?"
3. And a feeling of "what else is the media not telling me about the world becuase its not PC"
You are exactly right. Early in the Afghanistan war, I read an interesting article by a man that had spent a lengthy career in the oil patch in Iraq and also in Afghanistan with companies searching for new sources. He wrote of that very thing (homosexuality) in those societies. He said that it will surface someday soon enough, looks like it's doing just that.
If the information in this article is true, then most likely a great number of innocent people in that region will suffer and die of AIDS just as they have done in Africa, and just as they have done here, as well as those who brought it upon themselves through their behavior. Fanatical Islamists are our enemies, and perhaps to some extent so-called moderates are too, but I would not want to encourage anyone here to become someone who rejoices in the death and misery of others. We'll kill them if we must, but let's not revel in it.
Fatal denial seems to be a congenital defect of these people.
Can't quite figure out my ambivilance.
Every cloud has a silver lining and every silver lining has a cloud within.
"kill them if we must, but let's not revel in it".
Couldn't happen to nicer people. You know the ones who practice the religion of peace with the home made bomb vests. I only hope the share the "wealth" before the die a long and painful death.
What happened to their Idol god????? Why isn't he protecting them???
Lock and load and make them glow!!!!!
Yep, and it usually involves some sort of blade.
Well, didn't he get HIV from doing something sinful and shameful?
I thought the correct term was "a woman for children, a boy for pleasure." BOYS.
Could be their downfall.
What is Africa after all, but the Middle East without oil?
Mostly a civilization hundreds of years behind the times, with corrupt dictators running around all over the place and killing their own people.
All this and the Arab "innocence" regarding allah's omniscience. I can't tell you how many times I was told in Saudi that if it's dark, allah can't see what you're doing.
Used to get admonished around the souks about wearing a ballcap that "shielded my eyes from allah".
In my opinion, these people live a very sensual existence whereas they have no concept of anything outside the realm of their own five senses. Regardless of what the koran sez, the majority of the islamsits only memorize the verses, the crazy mullahs are the ones that explain it to them. And the mullahs, imans and royal families have a vested interest in keeping the masses ignorant and agitated about almost anything else besides their political/religious state of affairs.
The pilot of the plane on my first trip into Saudi had it right, when after he checked the cabin for arabs said: "Local time is 2 AM, set your watches back 500 years."
Maybe the suicide bombers aren't just college kids who aren't doing so well with their grades, but ones who also picked up HIV and don't want to disgrace their families...
Go out a hero and no one the wiser?
Since when are these people innocent?
Isn't there something in the Bible that goes "And the sins of the fathers will be visited upon the children ...even unto the tenth generation..."
So, if a muslim like this girl, gets AIDS from her husband (who hasn't told her he has it, or maybe doesn't know), you wouldn't consider her innocent?
We are all born in sin.
Ain't for me to decide.
I'm just taking God's word for it that we are all sinners, none of us is innocent, and we all need a Savior.
be rejected along with his family by neighbors and friends, who regard HIV as synonymous with sin and shame.
That is the way it should be regarded.
I read recently that the Muslims in Africa were spreading a rumor that U.S. supplied polio vaccine was contaminated with HIV.
The result; polio, once eradicated, has returned to Africa.
So there is at least some awareness of Aids in the Muslim world.
So be it. If they want to die for their cultural/religious beliefs then let it take it's logical path.
AND (not "but") let's clean this up in the United States too! Why do we giggle at the sodomites here? Why do so many television programs highlight them as normal?
"And scattered about it, some in their overturned war-machines, some in the now rigid handling-machines, and a dozen of them stark and silent and laid in a row, were the Martians--dead!--slain by the putrefactive and disease bacteria against which their systems were unprepared; slain as the red weed was being slain; slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth."
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