Posted on 07/18/2005 4:27:36 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Dear Friend,
The attacks from certain members of the Democratic Party against Karl Rove this week have been an absolute disgrace. This is an attempt at personal destruction and political opportunism at its very worst-it is downright shameless.
It has been reported that the liberal extremist group MoveOn.org has been giving the Democratic leadership direction over the last several months. It comes as no surprise that MoveOn.org was the first to call for Karl Rove's resignation this week.
But for members of Congress to take part in this smear campaign, that's an entirely different and truly unfortunate matter altogether. The Democratic leadership even brought the political attack against Mr. Rove to the floor of the United States Senate on Thursday by offering an amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations bill that would strip his security clearance. Strip his security clearance based on what, hearsay? What an absolute sham!
This excerpt from a statement from Mr. Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, should help demonstrate why the Democrats are so completely and utterly off base in their political antics:
"Rove has cooperated completely with the special prosecutor, and he has been repeatedly assured he is not a target of the investigation. Rove has done nothing wrong. We're confident that he will not become a target after the special prosecutor has reviewed all evidence."
Majority Leader Bill Frist summed it up quite well in saying, "this is a sad and disappointing afternoon here in the United States Senate."
Based on the information at their disposal, the Democrats have taken reckless partisan attacks to a new level. The Democratic Party leadership is in disarray and they are desperate-attacking has become their modus operandi. They have personally attacked the President's well qualified judicial nominees. They have attacked every single plan that is put forth to address saving Social Security. Howard Dean personally attacked the Republican Party, saying its members have not worked an honest day in their lives. And the Minority Leader Harry Reid personally attacked the President of the United States by calling him a loser and a liar. The Democratic leadership has guided the Party into an abyss-no new ideas, no agenda, just negativity.
Below are some quotes from Senate Democrats that fully acknowledge the points that I am making and should serve as a reminder why it is so important to support the Republican Majority in the United States Senate.
With warmest best wishes,
Elizabeth Dole
In June 2005, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (D-IL) Criticized Democrats As The Party Of "No, No, No!" "'All the Democrats [in Congress] say is "No, no, no!"' the mayor said. 'Why can't we have an energy program?' And later, in an almost word-for-word repetition of his 1995 comments, Daley told [Robert Novak]: 'We are a Washington party. We have no farm system. The Republicans do, and we don't.'" (Robert Novak, "Daley Realizes Democrats Need To Lighten Up," Chicago Sun-Times, June 30, 2005)
Stan Greenberg And James Carville: "Democrats Aren't Seen As Standing For Anything." "[T]he biggest problem the Democrats face is not that they're seen as standing for too many liberal issues or standing for too many conservative positions. It's that Democrats aren't seen as standing for anything." (Stan Greenberg and James Carville, "Democrats Must Change Everything," USA Today, April 19, 2005)
Sen. Evan Bayh Admitted The Democrats Have A "Do-Nothing" Problem. "After all, since the Democrats have spent much of the past 30 years talking about saving an endangered Social Security system, how can they now say there is no problem? 'If we become the do-nothing party, we become the default party,' says Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, a 'red state' Democrat. (Gloria Borger, "Meet The New Party Of No," U.S.News & World Report, February 28, 2005)
In February 2005, New Mexico Governor Bill "Richardson Warned That Democrats Need To Be More Than The Party Of Opposition. 'We Cannot Just Be Negative,' He Said. 'We Have Got To Have Some New Ideas.'" (Dan Balz, "Dean Tries On DNC Chairmanship," The Washington Post, February 12, 2005)
Greenberg And Carville: "Democrats Fell Short And Will Continue To Fall Short, As They Are Faltering In The Battle For Ideas, Purpose, Strength, Values And Advocacy." (Stan Greenberg and James Carville, "Toward A Democratic Purpose," Democracy Corps Memo, February 1, 2005)
Greenberg And Carville: "As Voters Compare The Parties, They See A Democratic Party Without Purpose And Defining Ideas; A Party Not At All Strong . . . ." (Stan Greenberg and James Carville, "Toward A Democratic Purpose," Democracy Corps Memo, February 1, 2005)
What the Karl Rove Issue Is Really About:
A whole lot of nothing. Outside of the Beltway, America is yawning with boredom.
I received this today, too. Very interesting.
Greenberg & Carville... which one is Lamb Chop & which one is Shari Lewis ?
One question to freepers who know how a Grand Jury works:
In a Grand Jury investigations can an involved party attends the testimony of another party? Or is it that each involved party is questioned in isolation from any other party? For example can Matt Cooper lawyers attend the testimony of Karl Rove?
Let me know please.
The dims have been caught in the Perfect Rovian Storm. That's right, Karl Rove secretly started all this to further destroy the Democrats!
Those who understand the issue and view it objectively understand that Karl Rove in no way outed anyone. The information the media acquired came directly from the woman's husband who had a vendetta against the White House because the information he acquired in a useless investigation was useless. He was told this and it offended him. He was never sent on orders from the White House or the current administration. He was sent on some wild goose chase directive from the CIA.
Thanks for the post, ftd. I ping the keepers of the NC Ping List, and suggest that they send this out.
I spent a number of years on a federal grand jury. Each witness is questioned in isolation...not even his attorney is allowed to participate.
It is all about innoculating Hillary against fallout from Sandy Burgler. They started calling for Rove to lose his security clearance when Sandy lost his.
"He was sent on some wild goose chase directive from the CIA."
It was no wild goosechase. Wilson came back with exactly what he was tasked to come back with. Which means that the person who sent him, his wife, who was widely regarded as an expert analyst in WMD, had an agenda herself. This agenda would seem to involve influencing domestic politics during the presidential election.
This is the real story, here. It should give everyone pause. It should particularly give folks on the left the willies, but since they actually are the establishment now, I guess they've become big fans of the CIA as well.
Well that's just purely idiotic on the Democrats' part. Berger removed classified documents...Rove did not.
No one is yawning here.
This is momentous.
This will mean whether Republicans have a voice in this country or not.
It is an unprecedented precedent for future mass deportation of the conservative voice to virtual concentration camps.
I think this is what I meant. She knew there was nothing to find, and that there was no reason to send him. She also was well aware that he would give this information to the media when he found out how much of a stooge he was made.
I am not really surprised at how stupid he was in both instances. The person who should be investigated here, as you obviously agree, is the wife.
What this is all about...
The democrats relize what an incredibly dumb thing they did by defending the likes of Clinton. They also relize how their anti-American rhetoric is playing across the nation.
Despite this, the democrats have evidently (already) done their deal with the devil, and refuse to change.
This presents a dilema. What can you offer a nation that recognizes you for what you are, when you're unwilling to change?
There is only one option available to the democrats at this time. That option is to destroy the opposition, so much so that the only team left standing is their own.
This is what the neverending drive to destroy Rove is all about. It's also what the campaign to convince American citizens that George Bush lied, was all about.
The effects on this nation, of Bill Clinton's presidency, cannot be overstated. He and his team positively destroyed the premise of law and order. Criminal activity within the White House eclipsed that of Richard Nixon by 100 to 1.
The only chance that democrats have today, is to convince a majority of Americans that there is no difference between the two major parties in this nation.
To that end, the democrats are doing everything they can with all their might.
It is the reality of this situation that drives me so hard to damn our own side when they do not adhere to the laws of our nation. If tenets of the U.S. Constitution are ignored, no matter if it's far less than what the democrats may have done, it still confirms for people that both parties consider themselves above the law, if it suits them.
I would urge every Republican to let their leaders know in no uncertain terms, that we're playing for keeps here. We not only face exterior terrorists, we face people within our government who would destroy this nation if they could.
One side must adhere to the U.S. Constitution, or we are doomed. This is no laughing matter. All issues play into every issue in this environment.
The story is a bit convoluted and probably beyond the interest level of many Americans.
It took me a couple of days to get the whole story because it was slow in coming from the MSM. And a lot of it is still hearsay.
"She knew there was nothing to find, and that there was no reason to send him."
I don't think she knew anything of the sort. It was an attempt at deflection of other, competing intelligence. Why take the risk? I can only come up with one thing that makes any sense, and that would be another entanglement with the Oil for Food program, which was ended due to the war in Iraq.
Somebody's really in trouble, and they know damn well it's not Rove, but are going to try and bring him down for the hell of it. They might figure they have nothing to lose after all the scandals they've tried to manufacture over the last 5 years have left them looking like the silly prix they really are.
It's important to remember the MSM filed a brief stating there was no criminal activity so our reporter should not have to name sources. Now, they've reversed that stance to a point of an absolute ridiculous fever! I feel there is a deflection going on by the press of biblical perportion. Judith Miller is sitting in a jail cell not because she feels she has to protect a source for ethical reasons, or to protect other reporters, it's much more complicated.
Yesterday, I kept asking was Plame REALLY covert, and got a multitude of rebuke! Everything from her former Boss to J. Wilson stating she wasn't covert at the time her name was revealed. That's not the issue here, and the press knows it, but they keep insisting it. The issue is why is a reporter sitting in jail to protect a source, that her bosses argued to the court, committed no criminal activity because Plame was either already outed, or NOT covert. They have to know Rove is not in any criminal danger and the President has stated ONLY if there was cinimal activity would that person no longer be in his adm.
Who's Miller's source?
Democrats/MSM distracting from the real issue surrounding Plame: 1) CIA desk-jockeys who disagree with Bush attempting to undermine his foreign policy. Their job is to interpret and analyze data, not set policy (WTH is Plame doing sending her partisan hack husband on an intel gathering op?) 2) Dems obscuring that their "blood for oil" mantra was based on lies by the weasel lair Joe Wilson.
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What the Karl Rove Issue Is Really About:
Democrats/MSM distracting from the real issue surrounding Plame:
1) CIA desk-jockeys who disagree with Bush attempting to undermine his foreign policy. Their job is to interpret and analyze data, not set policy (WTH is Plame doing sending her partisan hack husband on an intel gathering op?)
2) Dems obscuring that their "blood for oil" mantra was based on lies by the weasel lair Joe Wilson.
Exactly.
...The day Dr. Rice was confirmed as Secretary of State, the CIA desk jockeys as you so aptly call them, were more than likely sick to the stomach after she made it clear that she would not coddle any of the rogue nations from the U.N..
They have been gunning for Bush ever since, and quite frankly need to be permanently retired and removed from the intelligence payroll.
I call this scandal --- MommyGate ---.
In an interview Joe Wilson said that it was illogical to think that Val wanted him sent on the mission.
Joe said that his wife, the CIA WMD expert, needed him at home, to help watch the twins.
Maybe Val brainwashed or hypnotized Joe.
The chair recognizes the woman from Kans....um, North Carolina.
"The OLD MEDIA and DEMOCRATS are all a bunch of lying scum and I'm sick of them!!!"
I don't even bother to watch them (ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN) anymore - even for opposition research. People in the know are reading/writing blogs (ala POWERLINE).
Whats great is the number of people calling in to shows mocking the MSM for being lying weasels. The Net has broken the MSM information monopoly and the public is finally starting to "get it".
You're so right! The story below made me think of our current Democrats, so determined to viciously attack Bush/Cheney/Rove, et al that they may well end up destroying their own electoral chances (one can hope) for many years to come.....
450 Sheep Jump to Their Deaths in Turkey
The Associated Press
Friday, July 8, 2005; 9:59 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/08/AR2005070800553_pf.html
ISTANBUL, Turkey -- First one sheep jumped to its death. Then stunned Turkish shepherds, who had left the herd to graze while they had breakfast, watched as nearly 1,500 others followed, each leaping off the same cliff, Turkish media reported.
In the end, 450 dead animals lay on top of one another in a billowy white pile, the Aksam newspaper said. Those who jumped later were saved as the pile got higher and the fall more cushioned, Aksam reported.
"Judith Miller is sitting in a jail cell not because she feels she has to protect a source for ethical reasons, or to protect other reporters, it's much more complicated."
Judith Miller is the "leak" (via Joe Wilson). She's sitting in jail to protect herself, invoking the 1st when she should be invoking the 5th.
"It has been reported that the liberal extremist group MoveOn.org has been giving the Democratic leadership direction over the last several months. It comes as no surprise that MoveOn.org was the first to call for Karl Rove's resignation this week."
Transcript of Chat with Ambassador Joe Wilson (Official John Kerry Blog Site)
*** Joe Wilson (Oct 29, 2003 11:39:02 AM)
I had dinner last Friday night with the founders of MoveON.org
they are terrific patriots and citizens
They remind me of what a great nation, what a great people we are
I believe what they are doing is the wave of the future
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174083/posts
So are you on the MSM boat that Plame WAS covert?
"So are you on the MSM boat that Plame WAS covert?"
She was not covert - hence the scare quotes around "leak"
If Plame was not covert, there is no crime, there is no reason for Miller to be sitting in jail, there was no reason for Fitzgerald to put her there, for not revealing a source.
The democrats are truly mob rule now. It's like watching a house burn down.
Good call, I think! BTW, Have you noticed Plame hasn't said JACK til that stupid Time interview today, and she doesn't say squat in that...
Plame is helping the dems undermine the President to try to get back power for the dems. The dems are on a mission from hell!
Hillary is Judith Miller's source. Miller is willing to go to jail to protect the viability of the Democratic Party.
"... there is no crime, there is no reason for Miller to be sitting in jail, there was no reason for Fitzgerald to put her there, for not revealing a source"
It's been implied several times that the investigation has "grown tentacles." Miller could very well be sitting in jail in order to keep a particular version of events, or a certain perception, alive in order to prevent some other, less-pleasant notion from gaining traction. That other, less-pleasant notion centers upon CIA attempts at manipulating a domestic presidential election, in my opinion. The attempted manipulation itself sprang from WMD intelligence or purported intelligence. And there you have Judy Miller. You have Valerie Plame, too, as well as her emotionally-needy little international con artist of a husband. But, as partisan, irritating and pathetic as Joe Wilson can be (and is still), he's been quite upfront about his exploits. It's his wife, and possibly her superiors, who have gotten their @sses in a sling here, or so I'm beginning to believe.
Then this Rove story must be..."This is the song that never ends"....made famous by Lamb Chop and Sheri Lewis...
"Who is Miller's source?"
Could this be about a Democrat? On the Intelligence Committee? Or a query that was run from a database that shouldn't exist but whose results, i.e., the connection between Wilson and Plame, got into a reporter's fax inbox?
And, 2008?
The 2008 darkhorse..
Correct, but have you found yourself listening to M. Savage more frequently lately?
"the connection between Wilson and Plame, got into a reporter's fax inbox?"
If it's common knowledge on the cocktail circuit grapevine, why would this even be necessary?
Trying to undermine an election is a major NO, NO!
Who really messed up on the WMD?
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