Skip to comments.Dead Boys Alive in Trunk for 17 Hours
Posted on 07/19/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by AbeKrieger
CAMDEN, N.J. Three boys who suffocated in a car trunk last month were alive for at least 17 hours, slowly succumbing while police searched their neighborhood, a lawyer for the family of one of the boys says. Lawyer Peter M. Villari told The New York Times that officials of the Camden County prosecutor's office went over details of an autopsy report with him, the newspaper reported Tuesday. The boys, ages 5, 6 and 11, disappeared from the yard where they were playing a little after 5 p.m. on June 22. Their deaths were ruled accidental. Relatives searched for the boys for three hours and then called authorities. A two-day search that included dogs, helicopters and boats on the nearby Delaware River ended when the father of one of the boys found them dead in the trunk of an inoperable car sitting just feet from where they had been playing. The autopsy report, which has not been released publicly, found that the boys died between 10:30 a.m. on June 23 and 2:30 a.m. on June 24, Villari said. That estimate was based on fluid and tissue samples and weather data, he said. Villari told the newspaper that responsibility for the deaths is now "squarely on the shoulders of the police." "I think the numbers speak for themselves," he said. "They were certainly alive when the police arrived and certainly well after the search started." Villari did no immediately return a call seeking additional comment Tuesday. The prosecutors' office had no immediate comment.
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So the police are responsible for the behavior of these children and the lack of responsibility of the parents. This is a tragedy, not a crime, but I guess in Camden, someone's done gots to get paid.
Uh, since the police searched the car while the boys were alive in the trunk.
And the police missed them.
Don't you think they bear some responsibility?
My thoughts exactly. Where the hell were the parents? Why wasn't the lock on the trunk of the inoperable car removed? Where were the parents? What were they thinking?
There was a three hour search before the police were called. Why weren't the kids found?
No, I do not think they do, and certainly no criminal or financial responsibility. This community always tries to blame the police for their shortcomings. This entire incident belongs squarely on the shoulders of poor (if existent at all) parenting. The person who left the trunk open or otherwise accessible to children - their fault 100%.
How tragic, the police really should have looked in that car.. But missing something in a seach does not make them responable for not supervising the kids, and to be fair how many of us have our eyes on an 11 year old all the time?
And why didn't anyone hear the boys inside?
I don't know the year model of the car but did it have an inside trunk release handle? One of those boys was 11 and I've seen some very resourceful 11 year olds, something doesn't seem plausible. How 'bout kicking the back seat in, at least to get a little more air? An 11 year old can cause lots of damage to some of those panels, make lots of noise too. Many unanswered questions.
"...the father of one of the boys found them dead in the trunk of an inoperable car sitting just feet from where they had been playing."
Surely everyone (including the police) were within a few feet of this car...especially during the start of the searching. Were these kids not kicking and screaming inside the trunk, off and on, for at least two or three hours? I would think the average 3-4 year old (and these kids were a little older, weren't they?) would be making a heck of a racket to get out!
The police bear A LOT of responsibility for this negligence.
And they WILL pay.
The police were not called until 3 hours after the boys went missing.
What about the stories of the plastic bag over one kids head and the cement bag over them. I just dont se how they could search right there and the kids did not make nay noise.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
They might have passed out but still been alive.
There is some question as to whether or not the police could have been more thorough in the initial search of the vehicle but I agree that the parents bear the responsibility for their children.
By the way, that's cute the way you put the parents in their place and at the same time made fun of the way some people in Camden talk. Give yourself two pats on the back. Nicely done.
No, the tax payers will "pay" is what you mean.
It didn't occur to the idiot parents to check the trunk?
If the children were playing within feet of the car before they disappeared wouldn't that be one of the first places a normal person would look?
Trying to make a few bucks off this tragedy is what they're doing. People who don't take responsibility for their own stupidity make me sick!
My kids wouldn't be missing for three hours before I called for help!
"This is a tragedy,not a crime."I agree 100%.What am i missing here?Are car trunks soundproof?I assume someone must have at least taken a cursory look thru the vehicle.Openend doors,looked under the car,but no sounds from 3 boys supposedly still alive inside?That's odd.Of course there will be no shortage of plantiff's attorneys beating down the parent's doors.
The insurance policy for the police department will pay.
Cherry Hill, NJ (located in Camden County) will pay.
Only if the parents also bear some responsibility since they also searched for three hours. This was a tragic accident ... the insertion of a lawyer only makes it more tragic.
I wonder if the parents will also sue the car manufacturer for not making a child-proof trunk.
Was the immigration status of these folks ever confirmed?
Spoken like a true welfare queen.
If the police officer failed to check his rear-view mirror and backed over the three boys, and killed them, would you still claim that he bears no responsibility?
So I guess what we're saying is if police do not check every possible lead, or shred of evidence, or possible hiding place, or nook and cranny, and some unfollowed path turns out to be the correct one, then they should be held criminally or financially negligent? I've seen many comments on this story where the "parent" says the children played in the trunk. 1) Are you kidding me? 2) Was this EVER mentioned in the presence of police before the bodies were found? If the cops did not have ALL the information, how could they be responsible?
Otherwise, the responsibility would rest on his clients: the parents.
The police should pay, insurance policy or not.
If a Microsoft security guard screwed up like this, would you feel the same?
Or are you just against this as a taxpayer?
I'm against my insurance rates going up.
You sure you are coherent? How do you compare one to the other. Keep on rambling.
Oh sure blame the police because you are stupid. This sucks and has $$$$ written all over and under it - just a POS!!
"Sargent Jones, go search the car."
"I looked in the windows and everything looks fine. Can I get a dough nut now?"
If you told one of your officers to search the car, wouldn't you expect him to include the trunk?
Or would you say, "Ah, well. Close enough."
One example is negligence.
The other one is negligence.
(try some intelligence next time)
"The person who left the trunk open or otherwise accessible to children...100% responsible."Good point.Who owned the vehicle?I recall from bus law that there's a law that applies to minors(esp young children)getting injured or killed due to a homeowners negligence.EX a pool w/out a fence or some barrier to deny access.Homeowner can be liable(civily and criminally)if a minor wanders into the pool and drowns.Wouldn't this apply as well?Cannot for the life of me remember the legal term.Any ideas?
I planted an insurance money tree in my back yard years ago.
I was not informed it required special tax-payer funded water to make it grow. Needless to say, it died.
Where is the money coming from that will pay for the increase of the insurance premiums?
I feel really bad for you.
It must be almost as bad as having your child suffocate in the trunk of a hot car.
I'll put you on my prayer list.
Tell you what, let's see what they say about WHY the trunk was not searched. I plan NOT to be surprised with the findings.
How much is the insurance premium going up because of this one claim?
I have no idea what you are talking about.