Skip to comments.Iraq's dangerous new friend
Posted on 07/19/2005 7:46:25 PM PDT by mario12
Iraqi government looking for help from powerful Iran? No, but it certainly poses a problem for the White House, which now finds itself putting American soldiers' lives on the line every day to prop up an active ally of the country that we claim, with some plausibility, funds anti-Israeli and other terror groups and is bent on making its own nuclear bomb.
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An LA Times opinion column has no bearing on anything.
I'd sooner read an op-ed column by Saddam Hussein than one by Robert "Soviet Suck-Up" Scheer.
Right just a story from the LA Times. Just consider the source.
Especially coming from Robert Scheer -- a pedigreed anti-American Maoist who believes North Korea should be the working model for society.
I was going to say the same thing.
Robert Scheer is a bush-hating idiot leftist. Take everything he says and invert it, and you get the truth.
More to the point, a Robert Scheer column has no bearing on anything. The guy is a well known socialist who pushes the socialist agenda. He's not "left leaning" or "liberal" and compassionate or any of those things. Just a hard socialist.
I dont know how would our Officials will work on with this...
IMO... Muslims, whatever their sect is, are still of same mind.. we are still infidels eventhough we helped them in many ways.. we are considered enemies..
its on their "manual"...
[scenario] "We'll give you the go ahead on that editorial, Bob, because we know most readers have short memories and have forgotten that in the past we have implied that Bush is a warmonger who wants to invade innocent little Iran. Get it done before the 4PM deadline and be sure to put something in about it being Bush's fault. Tie it in with the DNC press release we got day before yesterday, the one about Bush's war creating more terrorists."
What's the writer trying to accomplsh?Erode support for the war?Sounds to me like more anti-Iraq propaganda,just a new angle.
"IMO... Muslims, whatever their sect is, are still of same mind.. we are still infidels eventhough we helped them in many ways.. we are considered enemies.."
Do remember. Iran is Persians. Iraq is domininately Arab, with a 17-20% Kurdish population who dislike Arabs from time immortal. Persians very much dislike Arabs, and only have a small minority Arab population, whom always cause trouble.
There are some large differences in how the majority Iraqi Shiite think and how the Persian Shiite think. Iran is classed as an enemy with Saudi Arabia. The Persians have their own oil/gas resources, tons of warm weather ports, and a somewhat advanced commercial/scientific structure. Regardless of whom their friends or foes may be they have for many years been hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapons and he missle technologies to deliver the stuff to Israeli cities. So if Iraq and Iran want to do business, set up oil pipelines which are now in the works etc., that is their bussiness. We have no right to demand Iraq not become on friendly terms with their nieghbors. In fact one reason for OIF, was to create a new Iraq that would be friendly with their neighbors and in the process lessen the chances of us loosing oil from any of these countries if wars broke out as did happen between Iraq and Iran. Iraq's oil industry went kaput due to neglect, because all monies went into creating a war machine that could bet up on all it's neighbors, and eventually take over their oil.
So in MHO, I see nothing wrong with Iraq reaching out to these ME nations and asking for money, investment, etc., to help them become independent, and of course this time around help be a stabliziing force in the ME. Perhaps my thinking is to infantile.
Ping... Well Said..
Iran-Iraq talks heal old wounds
Iran's President Mohammed Khatami has welcomed what he called a "turning point" in relations with Iraq.
He said the current visit by Iraq's transitional PM Ibrahim Jaafari would help patch the wounds inflicted by ex-Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
Mr Jaafari is leading the highest-level Iraqi delegation to Iran in decades.
Mr Khatami said the security of Iran and Iraq were closely linked and that Tehran would do everything to help restore Iraq's stability.
"The visit of the Iraqi prime minister to Iran is a turning point in the historic relations between the two countries. It will allow us to heal the wounds and repair the damage caused by Saddam Hussein through joint co-operation," Mr Khatami said.
Mr Jaafari said Iraq knew the evil wrought by Saddam Hussein on the region, but that he did not represent the Iraqi people.
More than one million people died when the two nations fought in the 1980s during an eight-year war.
The political symbolism of restoring relations is huge, says the BBC's Frances Harrison in Tehran.
After decades of no diplomatic relations, Iraq now has a prime minister who has spent years in exile in Iran and heads a Shia-dominated government sympathetic to its neighbour, she says.
More than 10 ministers are accompanying Mr Jaafari on his visit - the first top-level visit to Iran since the Iran-Iraq war.
The two countries have already signed an agreement on expanding transport links - Iran has promised to help rebuild Najaf airport and connect the two countries' rail networks to increase trade and the movement of pilgrims.
They are also expected to discuss security and the control of their long border.
A security agreement would involve Iran sharing intelligence with Iraq, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told the AFP news agency.
"One of the subcommissions we formed is on security co-operation between two sides. Its aim is really to establish a mechanism for intelligence sharing, to prevent infiltrations and to assist us in stabilising the situation," he said.
The two countries have vowed to fight what they called terrorism and the abuse of Islam to justify violence.
"Today, we need a double and common effort to confront terrorism that may spread in the region and the world," Mr Jaafari said at a joint press conference after the talks.
Mr Jaafari, who is scheduled to leave on Monday, is expected to hold further talks with the president-elect of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi.
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