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One million tires catch on fire in Wisconsin
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 7/20/05

Posted on 07/20/2005 4:41:47 AM PDT by Libloather

1 million tires catch on fire in Wis.
July 20, 2005

WATERTOWN, Wis. -- A massive fire erupted in a huge pile of tires at a recycling plant Tuesday, sending black smoke billowing for miles and forcing roads to be closed while firefighters tried to contain the blaze.

The fire ignited in about 1 million tires at the Watertown Tire Recycling Co., said Lt. Doug Ninmann of the Dodge County Sheriff's Department.

No one was injured and the cause wasn't determined, but people within a mile's radius were warned to take shelter if the smoke becomes too intense, he said. Firefighters had been at the seen since 10 a.m., he said.

An inspector from the state Department of Natural Resources said she was at the plant meeting with owner Thomas Springer when the fire started.

''I was in his office making a compliance check when someone ran in and yelled, 'fire,''' Barb Palecek said. ''We called 911 and it was mayhem.''

There were 14 to 16 fire departments from the area helping to battle the blaze, and about 30 tanker trucks were hauling water from nearby Watertown. AP


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 1; catch; fire; million; one; tires; wisconsin

Smoke billows from a fire at a tire recycling company Tuesday, July 19, 2005, in Watertown, Wis. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)


Emergency personnel try to contain a fire at a tire recycling company, Tuesday, July 19, 2005, in Watertown, Wis. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

1 posted on 07/20/2005 4:41:49 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Libs all over the country are fretting nervously as Armageddon comes closer.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 4:42:47 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Libloather
Oh man. Bush is going to catch hell for this environmental decision.

/S

3 posted on 07/20/2005 4:44:58 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Libloather
Marshmellows anyone?
4 posted on 07/20/2005 4:52:01 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: MaxMax

1 Million Tires.

Can someone do the math here. How high would the pile have to be? How wide, how long?

This is HUGH!!!


5 posted on 07/20/2005 4:52:05 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: patriot_wes
Marshmellows anyone?

I'll see your one Marshmallow,
and raise you 3-toasty-firestone-tires.

/Grin

6 posted on 07/20/2005 4:57:09 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Libloather

I wonder how many are SUV tires.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 4:58:40 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Libloather

Man, those things don't give up easily, either.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 4:59:29 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"1 Million Tires. Can someone do the math here. How high would the pile have to be? How wide, how long?"

Recycling. . .or just storing or ignoring?

Whatever; seems they may have been behind schedule.

9 posted on 07/20/2005 5:01:35 AM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: Labyrinthos
I wonder how many are SUV tires.

Wait until the next White-House press conference.
There is certain to be an Berkley undergraduate asking stupid Q's again.
I've got money on it.

10 posted on 07/20/2005 5:02:40 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Libloather

Was Winnie Mandela anywhere near?


11 posted on 07/20/2005 5:26:11 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (Jack Daniels is so good you can feel a straight shot all the way to your toes.)
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To: Libloather

Obviously Karl Rove started the tire fire to draw attention away from Rove-rage-gate....


12 posted on 07/20/2005 6:06:40 AM PDT by NRA1995 (West Virginia needs neurosurgeons like San Francisco needs gynecologists)
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To: Libloather
1 million tires catch on fire in Wis.

I wanna know who had count them

13 posted on 07/20/2005 6:32:32 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Becoming a politician is the only step down I could take from being a journalist." Jim Hightower)
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To: Libloather

"The Springfield Tire Fire"

(anyone else here ever play the "Simpson's Hit 'n Run" game?)

LQ


14 posted on 07/20/2005 6:39:43 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: Libloather

Is Winnie Mandela visiting?


15 posted on 07/20/2005 6:40:34 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: cricket
check this out:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/jul05/342249.asp

16 posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:45 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Becoming a politician is the only step down I could take from being a journalist." Jim Hightower)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Can someone do the math here. How high would the pile have to be? How wide, how long?

Difficult problem because the tires at the bottom of the pile will be compressed to greater density by the weight of those above. But hey, I'll make a WAG:

Rough estimates show the volume of material in an average tire is on the order of 0.2 cubic feet. 0.2 times 1 million equals 100,000 cubic feet. If all of the tires were compressed until there were no voids among them, they would fill a cube with dimensions of 46.4 feet on each side. The cube would be the minimum possible size of the pile -- you'll have to take it from there because there are lots of voids among the pile of tires.

17 posted on 07/20/2005 6:42:14 AM PDT by ngc6656
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To: newgeezer

ping


18 posted on 07/20/2005 6:43:41 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: Libloather

That fire will burn forever. Tire fires are hard to put out.


19 posted on 07/20/2005 6:44:12 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Libloather
In the top photo located in the center of the smoke I swear I see the Baby from the old TV comedy show "Dinosaurs" with his right arm raised and fist clenched saying "Not the Momma"!

I gotta get another cup of coffee and find my meds....

20 posted on 07/20/2005 6:46:16 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?)
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To: terabyte

Wisconsin poing.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 6:47:05 AM PDT by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: Libloather
About 15 years ago, in Danville, NH, there was a guy who had about 50 acres of land. His business model was that he would charge auto repair businesses $1.00 to remove used tires. He and his sons went all over the NE in trucks picking up tires. The estimate before they caught on fire was that he had 13 million on site in only a couple of piles. The fire burned for weeks even after D8's buried them the hot melting rubber oozed out of the ground and ignited.

For the price of the land and a buyer from Greece, the remaining tires were removed to Portsmouth piers and loaded on a ship bound for cement plants in Greece to be used for fuel.

It was an unbelievable disaster while they burned, now there is no excuse for just piling them up as many methods have been developed for the recycling of tires.
22 posted on 07/20/2005 6:51:54 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Libloather

I live about 35 miles from there and could see the smoke.


24 posted on 07/20/2005 6:54:06 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: biblewonk

The video was quite a sight on last night's local news.

I'll echo a previous post. For a so-called tire "recycling" operation, it's a shame someone allowed the process to get so far behind schedule.


25 posted on 07/20/2005 7:16:56 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: All; biblewonk
the cause wasn't determined

If it's been anything like it's been here in Iowa, the sun has been baking these BLACK tires relentlessly in 90+ degree weather for two weeks or more without any relief from rainfall.

Now, I'm no scientist but, how about spontaneous combustion?

26 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:07 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

It's going to rain on thetires today. I don't think it'll be enough to douse the fire, though. We are in Milwaukee and we had no problem seeing the smoke from here. The whole sky had a blackish tint all day yesterday.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 7:28:00 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: newgeezer

All it takes is a reflective surface anywhere near those tires and you could probably get enough heat from the magnified sun to start the fire. A neighbor had some glass setting along his garage near a window. By coincidence, when the sun was just right both the glass and the garage window bounced light to the same place where the sun was shining on some wood. It seemed to have cought on fire but didn't spread.


28 posted on 07/20/2005 7:35:38 AM PDT by biblewonk (They are not gods which are made with hands.)
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To: MaxMax; patriot_wes
I'll see you one Marshmallow . . .

Let's toast the Michelin Man.

29 posted on 07/20/2005 7:40:13 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Trust but Verify

Is the plant right on the edge of Watertown? If not, how far out and in what directions. We have lots of friends that work at the college there and was wondering how close to Maranatha Baptist Bible College it is?


30 posted on 07/20/2005 7:43:58 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

---Was Winnie Mandela anywhere near?----

Ouch!!

or "Slick" Willie?....


31 posted on 07/20/2005 7:47:02 AM PDT by Loud Mime (thotline.com)
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To: Libloather
30 tanker trucks were hauling water from nearby Watertown.

I wonder how long it took the committee to decide that. Where do they go to get china? Or funk?

32 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:02 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: EQAndyBuzz

About 200,000 cubic feet or 1 acre 45 feet high.


34 posted on 07/20/2005 9:00:42 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: ngc6656

The space is closer to 300 cu. in./tire and they won't compress much when stacked because of the stiffening cords; in a previous life, I did some tire-busting.

If they squeeze down when stacked, you wouldn't want them on your car.


35 posted on 07/20/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Libloather
Tire fire info:,

http://www.p2pays.org/ref/11/10504/html/intro/ploblems.htm,

http://www.p2pays.org/ref/11/10504/html/biblio/problems/prt9.txt

36 posted on 07/20/2005 9:12:15 AM PDT by concrete is my business (Completely concretely)
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To: Old Professer
The space is closer to 300 cu. in./tire and they won't compress much when stacked because of the stiffening cords; in a previous life, I did some tire-busting.

Thanks for the enlightenment. 300/1728 = 0.174 cubic feet or only 0.026 cubic feet less than my WAG. :>)

37 posted on 07/20/2005 9:48:40 AM PDT by ngc6656
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To: ngc6656
I looked at this at this as if they were donuts in a box-10 in a box (2 rows of 5).

The box is: 20" high x 2(20")wide x 5(6")long.

38 posted on 07/20/2005 10:08:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Libloather

Once it's out I'd be chacking for 'remains'


39 posted on 07/20/2005 11:16:42 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: Minnesoootan
Yeah, it's good too chack!

But this never should happen in the first place.

Refineries, etc. have to have high tech fire fighting equipment & foam in place, these tire whores are no different in terms of fire danger.

Nitrogen encased foam can stop this type of fire easily.

Without exception, every one can be traced to a payoff of gov. official to stay in biz.., it's an ongoing criminal enterprise that needs to end.

40 posted on 07/20/2005 12:05:41 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

1 Million Tires.


When I was traveling the boonies in Mongolia, I noticed quite a few tires along the road. I commented that we don't have a lot of trash like that on the road back in the USA.

He explained that those old tires served a good purpose. If you broke down in the wilderness, you went and got a tire, drained some gas out of the vehicle and sent up a smoke signal for some one to come rescue you.

Lots of smart people in Mongolia.


41 posted on 07/20/2005 1:14:27 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: lunarbicep

1 million tires catch on fire in Wis.

Who counted them? The same people who counted the million man march.


42 posted on 07/20/2005 1:15:25 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yes, and they all came from the Lexus, Navigator and downtrodden Mercedes drivers that attended. They being the tires of course, for reasons of grammatical precision.

Oh, the poor, masses that need a hand up.

Spare me.


43 posted on 07/20/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by Hilltop
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To: lunarbicep
"More than 120 firefighters from 14 departments fought the blaze, a task complicated by having to truck in water from a hydrant 1 1/2 miles away. . ."I can't tell you how many millions of gallons of water they're throwing on it,"

Thanks for the link here. Incredible. . .the rest of this story is as interesting and pertinent; as the beginning; guess the media is just occupado; needed those extra three minutes for more Karl Rove or Mary Kay Laterno. Not to mention it could cloud public opinion - and even give recycling a bad name.

This operation/disaster certainly has used up some resources. . .

. . .but let's move on. . .move on. . .

44 posted on 07/20/2005 6:46:36 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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