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Hoover's Institution [and Bill Moyers revelation]
Wall Street Journal ^ | 20 Jul 2005 | Lawrence H. Silberman

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:32:32 AM PDT by docbnj

Only a few weeks before the 1964 election, a powerful presidential assistant, Walter Jenkins, was arrested in a men's room in Washington. Evidently, the president was concerned that Barry Goldwater would use that against him in the election. Another assistant, Bill Moyers, was tasked to direct Hoover to do an investigation of Goldwater's staff to find similar evidence of homosexual activity. Mr. Moyers' memo to the FBI was in one of the files.

When the press reported this, I received a call in my office from Mr. Moyers. Several of my assistants were with me. He was outraged; he claimed that this was another example of the Bureau salting its files with phony CIA memos. I was taken aback. I offered to conduct an investigation, which if his contention was correct, would lead me to publicly exonerate him. There was a pause on the line and then he said, "I was very young. How will I explain this to my children?" And then he rang off. I thought to myself that a number of the Watergate figures, some of whom the department was prosecuting, were very young, too.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1964; dontaskdonttell; goldwater; jenkins; johnson; moyers; moyersbarebacked
In other words, the sanctimonous Bill Moyers of NPR had tried to use the FBI to dig up dirt on the Goldwater campaign in 1964.
1 posted on 07/20/2005 6:32:33 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

BM is such a holier than thou dirt bag.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 6:36:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: docbnj
In other words, the sanctimonous Bill Moyers of NPR had tried to use the FBI to dig up dirt on the Goldwater campaign in 1964.

The sanctimonious Bill Moyers was LBJ's liason to Hoover for all "black bag jobs" and illegal political investigations.
He was/is one of the most corrupt operatives to ever enter the whitehouse.
He made Nixon's "plumbers" look like choir boys.

So9

3 posted on 07/20/2005 6:40:26 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9

Democrat "abuse of power" and "politics of personal destruction" and "dirty tricks" bump.


4 posted on 07/20/2005 6:45:04 AM PDT by Montfort (Many liberals hate Bush more than they love life.)
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To: Servant of the 9

LBJ was such a dangerous sleaze. I guess if the nation could survive his presidency we can take just about anything.

I loved the line from Barry Goldwater's autobio. where he says every time I see Moyers I feel like throwing up.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 6:59:07 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: docbnj

I remember that at the time the running gag was at DC restaurants they were serving a "Walter Jenkins Special" - a foot long hot dog with mayonnaise


6 posted on 07/20/2005 7:06:18 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: docbnj
Just imagine if Goldwater had won the presidency in '64. What would Vietnam have been like?

An alternative history would have been the North Vietnamese going home. The US remaining a super power. And the USSR crumbling sooner from US pressure that went flat between LBJ and Carter.

At least 2 million would have lived in So. East Asia. And maybe a little visibility in China would have dampened Mao's "culteral revolution" and a few million more would have lived.

I'm sure the sanctimonious Moyer thinks he did good work for LBJ. Screw him.

7 posted on 07/20/2005 7:11:19 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Whenever I think Clinton is biggest sleazebag ever elected President, I remember LBJ and realize I'm wrong.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 7:23:29 AM PDT by Barb4Bush
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To: Barb4Bush
As George Will remarked: Bill Clinton isn't the worst President we've ever had but he may be the worst person to ever become President.
9 posted on 07/20/2005 8:17:49 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: narby
Just imagine if Goldwater had won the presidency in '64. What would Vietnam have been like?

I was told in 1964 that if I voted for Goldwater the war in Vietnam would be escalated. So I voted for Goldwater. And sure enough the war in Vietnam was escalated.

10 posted on 07/20/2005 8:34:06 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: docbnj

Requires subscription to read the whole thing. I'm curious about where Silberman was going with this old news so that it is of current interest for todays WSJ.

Can anyone post the remaining bit of this article without violating the fair use doctrine or getting FR in trouble? Seems like separate small bits posted by different Freepers would avoid the problem.


11 posted on 07/20/2005 8:59:15 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Montfort

Moyers is still at it.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 9:01:04 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
LBJ's idea of "escalation" I'm sure would not have been Goldwaters version.

The war was stagnant until the Christmas 72 bombing in the north. We removed the restriction on B-52s on Hanoi for 12 days, and the north basically sued for peace. The operations plan for that campaign had been drawn up in 1965.

We never needed to send GI's into the jungles of the South Vietnam. We only needed to ring up uncle ho on the phone and tell him to get the hell out of South Vietnam or the bombers will be there next week. Then do it.

It worked in '72. It would have worked in '65. And in '75 as well, and we could have saved millions of lives had we done it again.

13 posted on 07/20/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: docbnj
BTTT because this is important.

Will the MSM follow up on this? Yeah, sure they will.
14 posted on 07/20/2005 11:25:19 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: fuzzy122

for later


15 posted on 07/20/2005 11:49:15 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and Our Armed Forces!)
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To: narby

Yep. That's exactly right.


16 posted on 07/20/2005 1:31:19 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan; All

This story was reported on Brit Hume.


17 posted on 07/21/2005 3:34:59 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Servant of the 9
Moyers was trying to smear, castigate, discredit and force from employment people of different sexual orientation?

I'm sure that this will be on CBS tonight.

18 posted on 07/21/2005 3:41:15 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
This story was reported on Brit Hume.

Just heard it. You'll not hear much from the MSM on this. But it's sure to take some shine off Moyers...

19 posted on 07/21/2005 3:41:16 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I don't get it....Moyers said "I was very young"?


20 posted on 07/21/2005 3:41:35 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Fury

With WSJ and Brit Hume reporting everybody important to Moyers will know. It has to sting.


21 posted on 07/21/2005 3:45:38 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: All

a newsworthy bump for gay basher Moyers

not mention dirty trickster Moyers.


22 posted on 07/21/2005 3:59:59 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: All

btt so everyone can see


23 posted on 07/21/2005 5:25:15 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: docbnj
I was very involved in the Houston, Texas, Goldwater Campaign in 1964 and believe me, there was not any chance of any gays being involved back then.

Were there any lezboos then?

No, Bender. They weren't around until the Ted Kennedy Presidential Campaign in 1976.

24 posted on 07/21/2005 5:34:01 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Haven't heard that one in a long time. LOL. Thanks for the memories.


25 posted on 07/21/2005 5:36:22 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


26 posted on 07/21/2005 8:09:45 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: wildbill

It's free right now.

Worth reading.


27 posted on 10/06/2006 8:45:39 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Jrabbit

It's a confusing sentence. I guess Moyers didn't want his children to know that he'd once gone after homosexuals for political purposes. Either that or he was in the restroom with Jenkins.


28 posted on 10/06/2006 9:24:37 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: narby

If we go through a 8-year run...starting in 1964...with Goldwater running America...it is a vastly different place than today. Kissenger would never have been allowed to draw out the negoations and lengthen the war. By the end of 1965...B-52's would have gotten everyone to the table and wrapped up the mess before it started. The anti-war effort would never have occurred and Woodstock would have been just a simple meeting of a dozen bands...without significance. Joan Baez would never have been heard of...and the Smothers Brothers would have been held down to what they really were. The national park service would have found a very friendly Goldwater ready to enlarge the national parks and forrests. The Kremlin would have found a man very willing to go the distance and counter-balance whatever they were doing. Cuba likely would have fallen because an eventual 2nd Bay of Pigs would have been accomplished and been successful. Nixon would have found himself a newspaper editor job and never done anything else. By 1972, the economy would have been booming and a stronger America intact.


29 posted on 10/06/2006 9:39:56 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

So write an alternate history novel about it.


30 posted on 10/08/2006 4:33:09 PM PDT by narby
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