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SOUTER IN ROBERTS CLOTHING, ANN COULTER
Ann Coulter.com ^ | 7-30-05 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:33:31 AM PDT by Babu

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To: iconoclast

I despise identity politics, but the chances of getting two white males confirmed back to back is not good. I'd rather see Jones or Brown.


821 posted on 07/21/2005 8:55:17 AM PDT by canadiancapitalist
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To: mysterio
Thanks for the information. I'd have to know a little more about the case before I can make a really solid judgment. If the search actually had turned up contraband, then the person to whom it pertained is just as guilty as he would be if the officer had jumped through all the necessary legal hoops for conducting the search. It doesn't sit well with me at all that proven criminals can reap some kind of windfall just because the officers screwed up.

But if, on the other hand, the search had turned up nothing, and the officer was being sued for an illegal search, then Roberts' ruling was totally inappropriate, and should be grounds for an immediate rejection by the Senate.

822 posted on 07/21/2005 8:57:22 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

Yes, she's good too.


823 posted on 07/21/2005 9:02:01 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

He will have to appoint a woman


824 posted on 07/21/2005 9:02:20 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: inquest

To me, the guilt or innocence of the suspect has nothing to do with the Constitutionality of the search. I mean, is it ok to put video cameras in your house to watch your every move with no warrant if it turns out that you happen to commit a crime?


825 posted on 07/21/2005 9:52:05 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: nikos1121

Yes, my speculation was that, since he picked a man to replace Roberts, he will either nominate a woman to replace Scalia (should he move to Chief), or just appoint a woman as Chief Justice.


826 posted on 07/21/2005 10:50:39 AM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

Ruth Ginzberg?


827 posted on 07/21/2005 11:43:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: mysterio
To me, the guilt or innocence of the suspect has nothing to do with the Constitutionality of the search.

But at the same time, the constitutionality of the search has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. If you're guilty, you're guilty, regardless of whatever transgressions the authorities might have committed. Sure, punish them for it if they cross the line, but don't turn a criminal loose because of it.

828 posted on 07/21/2005 12:58:00 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: k2blader
His "settled law" comment just smells.

Agreed. We don't need any more justices who equate Court decisions with legislation when Congress, not the Courts, have "all legislative powers" in the federal government (USC A1S1).

829 posted on 07/21/2005 12:58:15 PM PDT by The_Eaglet (http://mychan.searchirc.com/efnet/conservative)
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To: inquest

The Constitution is not designed to protect us from criminals. It is designed to protect us from tyranny. Better that a few criminals escape justice than for all of us to live under the tyranny of a criminal government. So many have lost sight of that.


830 posted on 07/21/2005 1:17:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
But letting criminals get a benefit from the authorities' indiscretion does little to protect innocent people from abuses of power. The consequences of illegal searches and seizures should fall directly on those who commit them. There's no need to punish society by releasing criminals in retaliation for such actions.
831 posted on 07/21/2005 1:22:45 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: JLS
One thing about someone who has lived in the DC area for a number of years and is still conservative, they have shown the ability to be a conservative in the culture of DC. As Justice O'Connor whining about Roberts not being a woman today reminds us, that is not easy for many conservative newcomers to the inside the beltway culture

You made some excellent points in your post.

832 posted on 07/21/2005 1:29:22 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: The_Eaglet
His "settled law" comment just smells.
Agreed. We don't need any more justices who equate Court decisions with legislation when Congress

It would seem disturbing, but I believed Roberts prefixed that answer with as an appellate court judge. In that position he has no authority to ignore Supreme Court descions, so it is technically the correct answer. If he answered otherwised, he would have been nuked by the Senate Democrats.

833 posted on 07/21/2005 1:33:55 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Babu
I heard about how Coulter appears to hate this appointment, and thinks Roberts ill-suited. Now I've read the article and it seems clear to me is that she said "I don't know" at length and with vigor.

Not a problem. We should know more about Roberts, but this is hardly an indictment of him.

834 posted on 07/21/2005 1:58:55 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: frogjerk
F. Lee Levin has given his stamp of approval and that is better than Coulter's non-endorsement here. Sorry Ann, I believe you be proven wrong.

Wrong? How can she be proven wrong? Basically all she says - admittedly, at length - is that she doesn't know. I think we can give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she actually doesn't feel she knows enough about Roberts to personally endorse him. And...?

835 posted on 07/21/2005 2:01:33 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: dangus
Damn girl, you gotta eat if we can see your tracheal rings

...And the knobs at her elbows.

836 posted on 07/21/2005 2:03:35 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PhiKapMom
You are correct. IMHO given the choice of Coulter who looks for facetime or Levin -- I will take the opinions of Levin every time. He is much more grounded and not as flippant but then he doesn't have long blonde hair either! :)

Are they really in opposition? All Coulter really says here is "I don't know." This is hardly a smashing denouncement of Roberts.

837 posted on 07/21/2005 2:07:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: nikos1121

No, he'll appoint someone (Rogers-Brown or Hollans Jones?) from outside the Court for CJ, or Associate Justice to replace Scalia or Thomas if the get tapped for CJ.


838 posted on 07/21/2005 2:08:38 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: LibertarianInExile
I mean she's not arguing against Roberts personally. She doesn't say he's scum or some liberal that shouldn't ever be nominated.

yup.

839 posted on 07/21/2005 2:10:11 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Babu

We may not know if he lives in a log cabin, but you can bet that Bush knows.

This is what we hired him to do. I don't always agree with Bush; but I know that he's done a better job in this selection that Kerry would have done.


840 posted on 07/21/2005 2:12:05 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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