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US News ^ | 7/25/05 | Fouad Ajami

[F14 Pilot]

PING!

[Fred Nerks]

Great post Pilot, London fed the crocodile but the crocodile is insatiable.

[Free ThinkerNY]

Moderate Islam is the Trojan Horse of Militant Islam

[Dark Skies]

Thx for the ping, Freddie. Can't really blame the muslims...it is that spirit of hate that is Islam. Muslims seek a regular daily life until the representatives of Islam come calling.

Go to the bottom of Islam and one finds a snake...or it is "the snake" otherwise known as "the Dragon."

Muslims must give it up or die.

Until Islam is killed, it will continue to murder the world.

Islam is hate and lies and murder. Islam is evil (I think I have heard that before on FR).

[vetvetdoug]

Islam is cult of hate that panders to pedophiles, sodomites, murderers, and liars. Islam is a cult that was originated by a pedophile and false prophet named Mohamed and his followers are a Satanic cult into itself. Christians need to wake up and see that allowing this vermin to infest our countries will only end in death of our religion and ways of life and freedoms.

If the liberals and appeasers would go after the Islamic cultists as they did the KKK, there would be no problem. The Islamics preach the same as the KKK yet they get a free pass.

[McGavin999]

These men have ruined it for future generations who need to seek asylum. The result of this will be the locking of the door. We are slow to anger, but once angry we can be ruthless in a way that will make the despots look like pussycats. And when it is over, we will go back to planting our gardens and peacefully living our lives.

The Arab world complains that we don't know them, but the truth is, they do not know us.

[Dark Skies]

I think we are in agreement.

[Dark Skies]

I think we are on the same side, but earlier today, you seemed like shifting sand. Defending moderate Muslims and blaming the "radicals" for hijacking this peaceful religion.

I didn't respond because I thought you were too far gone.

Please tell me I am wrong so I can apologize.

[McGavin999]

You were not wrong. I totally defend moderate Muslims, but I hold no truck with radicals. They are two different things. I know that many think there is no such thing, but there is and there are more than people realize.

A lot of innocent people were killed in WWII, but there should be no guilt because there was no other way. Today, there is a way and killing innocents is out of the question.

I believe that Islam can be reformed, and I believe there are intelligent and pious people who are working on that right now and we need to help them because if we don't, then Nagasaki is going to look like childsplay. I don't want to see that and I'm sure you don't either.

[Dark Skies]

I believe that Islam can be reformed, and I believe there are intelligent and pious people who are working on that right

I agree that there are many fine people who are moderate Muslims...the problem is that in the eyes of true Islam, they are nonbelievers...they are apostate.

Loving God is not a Muslim thing...it is a human thing (and maybe even an animal and vegetable thing)...

Problem is...Allah isn't the creator...he isn't God. He is a killer and a liar.

Obviously this is a complicated problem and I will be the first to admit, I don't know what the answer is.

I am a devout Christian and I follow Christ's example (making plenty of mistakes...but still accountable to His example and to Him). I don't want to kill anyone. I think Islam is demonic and its followers can be liberated.

Well, I have worked myself into an honest state of "not knowingness."

I am an open minded and compassionate person...but Islam will kill us all or convert us.

Death for me if that is the choice.

[A. Pole]

Great post Pilot, London fed the crocodile but the crocodile is insatiable.

Britain is hosting Chechen "freedom" fighers. See my tagline.

[McGavin999]

I am an open minded and compassionate person...but Islam will kill us all or convert us.

Allah is the Arabic word for God. There is only one God, the creator of us all. I agree that these Islamists do not worship God, but most Muslims do.

If we are to defeat this enemy, we must be able to identify them. This "kill them all and let God sort them out" stuff is not the answer. Were we to do that, we would never be able to stand in His presence, and that would surely be worse than death.

I am not a turn the other cheek type person, much as I have tried, it's quite beyond me.

Remember, there was a day when Christians hated and persecuted Jews, and there was a day when Protestants and Catholics killed each other, but we have grown beyond that.

Do we have to defeat this thing? You bet your life we do. Do we have to exterminate the vermin who perpetrate it? Yep and we're going to do exactly that. Do we have to sacrifice our souls to save our bodies? Nope, not if we keep our heads. Nothing, I repeat NOTHING is worth disappointing God and that's exactly what we would be doing if we wipe out a bunch of innocent people deliberately.

[Fred Nerks]

Britain is hosting Chechen "freedom" fighters. See my tagline.

WHAAAT!?

Is Blair schizoid? No wonder he looks stressed! Troops in Iraq and Islamofascists around the dinner table at home biting the hand that feeds it! That's a dangerous game. Chechen 'freedom fighters' - wouldn't that make Putin rather cranky? How many enemies does Blair want? Does he know who his friends are? (I don't!) Please explain tagline. Sounds very interesting.

[Poundstone]

ping

[nw_arizona_granny]

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Protest Rally and Friday Prayer outside the US Embassy in London 20 May 2005

20 May 2005

The rally is primarily aimed at highlighting the arrogant desecration of the Holy Quran in
Guantanamo Bay.




Date: 19-05-05

Re: Protest Rally and Friday Prayer outside the US Embassy in London 20 May 2005


The Islamic Observation Centre in conjunction with other Muslim organisations invite
all press to cover a protest rally that is being organised outside the US Embassy in
London on 20 May 2005 between 12:30 – 3:00 P.M. The rally is primarily aimed at
highlighting the arrogant desecration of the Holy Quran in Guantanamo Bay.

The Islamic Observation Centre along with Muslims all over the world feel that this
highly offensive action has been sanctioned and promoted by the Bush administration
as part of a wider effort to intimidate Muslims and show disrespect for the Islamic
faith.

Speakers for the rally include Martin Mubanga and Moazzam Begg who are both former
Guantanamo detainees as well as Sheikh Abdulmun’em Mustafa Halimah.

Friday prayers will be held in Grosvenor Square outside the embassy premises.

For further information please contact:

Yasser Alsiri
Islamic Observation Centre
marsad@tiscali.co.uk
Tel: 0795 680 8153

Note to editors: The Islamic Observation Centre is a watchdog set up to highlight
injustice done against Islam and the Muslims in media as well as drawing attention to
human rights abuses around th


Islamic Observation Centre

[Dark Skies]

I agree...but you must consider that Allah (Al Ilah, the moon god) is antiChrist.

That is where the error is.

I don't know if you are Christian or Jewish (I am both)...but having read the Quran, I can safely say it is a perversion of the Judeo/Christian Word. It is not the fault of Muslims...they have been sold a bill of good...spoilt goods. It isn't Muslims...it is Islam.

God bless.

DS

[denydenydeny]

Superb Ajami column, as usual.

[Heatseeker]

Thanks for the ping. Professor Ajami has been explaining this to anyone who would listen since long before 9/11. He is probably the best analyst of the Arab mind alive today (Bernard Lewis' ideas are, I think, a bit dated).

Anytime he speaks, I listen.

[A. Pole]

Please explain tagline. Sounds very interesting.

Very simple. Britain was hosting Karl Marx enabling him to write his key works.