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American domination of Tour a sore spot to some French fans
Mercury News ^ | 20 July 2005 | BOB FORD

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:58:43 PM PDT by Dolphan

REVEL, France - (KRT) - Lance Armstrong is counting down the days now, and the rest of international cycling is counting right along with him.

"It's been great, but it's time to do something else," Armstrong said as he approaches Sunday's finish line of his seventh straight Tour de France victory.

He doesn't get any argument from the other riders who have tired of chasing the Texan for all these miles over all these years.

The American domination has become something of a sore subject, particularly in France. It is one thing for the French to be second-best to Italy, Spain or Germany - all great cycling nations - but to constantly finish behind a rider from America, where cycling is about as popular and well-understood as team handball, well, that is something else.

The French newspaper L'Equipe cattily noted the other day that if you combined the times of the top five U.S. riders in the Tour and the times of the top five French riders, the American were 3 hours, 24 minutes faster. In the interest of completeness, the paper pointed out that the home team was also behind Spain, Italy, Germany, and the states of the former Soviet Union.

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Hehe, love to stick it in the eyes of Le Frogs.
1 posted on 07/20/2005 7:58:43 PM PDT by Dolphan
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To: nutmeg

Spoiler alert!


2 posted on 07/20/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by Dolphan (Duck!)
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To: Dolphan

Did anybody complain when Eddie Merkx or Miguel Indurain dominated the Tour?


3 posted on 07/20/2005 8:02:50 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Dolphan

Well!! Get some Frenchman who can peddle faster!! What's the beef!!??

Another Crying jag by the French. I believe I heard that they were really upset about the English getting allof the attention over the Bombings, what childish crybaby antics are these? A World Leader --- Grow Up!!


4 posted on 07/20/2005 8:03:53 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: Dolphan
Latest statement from the Frogs.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:24 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Dolphan

Hee, hee, and the one finger salute to the Frogs.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:40 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Cecily

They weren't American...

It's OK for the Frogs to lose to a German, they are used to that. (Or was Merxkxcxk a Belgian?)


7 posted on 07/20/2005 8:05:03 PM PDT by Dolphan (Duck!)
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To: Dolphan

I wish we had American downhill and slalom skiers that could beat the Europeans more often. Or how about a winning Americna Grand Prix driver?

I'm surprised that Lance hasn't been attacked or assaulted by European fans or partisans.

They're not very sporting losers.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 8:06:01 PM PDT by garyhope (moules et frites)
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To: Dolphan
Heck, we don't complain when the French dominate in something.

(Of course, we never get the opportunity, but that is besides the point.).

9 posted on 07/20/2005 8:06:22 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Dolphan

Le French suc le big one.


10 posted on 07/20/2005 8:06:43 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"Well!! Get some Frenchman who can peddle faster!! What's the beef!!?? "

Well if you could get the French riders off the juice so they didn't die of heart attacks in thier pedals maybe they could win.


11 posted on 07/20/2005 8:07:35 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: Dolphan

Handball is a powerhouse here in America, again the French are so French.

We need to send them some freedom fries.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 8:07:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dolphan


13 posted on 07/20/2005 8:08:05 PM PDT by Babu
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To: garyhope

I dont think the European fans hate him as much as the European press does.

From what I understood, tons of fans last yr were wearing the yellow bracelet that has become so popular here in the States.

Also, I was under the impression that US skiiers have been doing quite well in the last season or two.

As far as grand prix drivers go, that type of car racing is a distant 4th, or 5th in this country, and with the Michelin fiasco, it won't get any better anytime soon.


14 posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:13 PM PDT by Dolphan (Duck!)
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To: Dolphan

Live it up, Frenchies. When the muslims introduce Sharia rule, the only sport you'll get is polo with a sheep's head.


15 posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:19 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Dolphan
The American domination has become something of a sore subject, particularly in France. It is one thing for the French to be second-best to Italy, Spain or Germany - all great cycling nations - but to constantly finish behind a rider from America

You mean...The American domination has become something of a sore subject, particularly in France. It is one thing for the French to be second-best to Italy, Spain or Germany - all great cycling nations - but to constantly finish behind a rider from TEXAS
16 posted on 07/20/2005 8:11:53 PM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

As long as it isn't American domination (whether it's cultural, sports, political) they don't care who rules them.

But, they will be in for a big surprise when they find out what the Mohammedans have in store for them.


17 posted on 07/20/2005 8:12:41 PM PDT by Dolphan (Duck!)
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To: Vision

The icing on the cake is that the French wine, cheese, and tourism industries are tanking because Americans are taking their business elsewhere in record numbers.


18 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:31 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Dolphan

So the Frogs are pissed that a Texan is beating them at their own game, non? Maybe they out to take a cue from the Texan and eat a friggin' steak every once in a while instead of clogging their colons with cheese....?


19 posted on 07/20/2005 8:15:19 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: garyhope
I'm surprised that Lance hasn't been attacked or assaulted by European fans or partisans.

It was last year or the one before, Toad partisans spat upon Lance.

BTW- Eddy Mercx is a Belgie

The French are inconsequential and have small.....

20 posted on 07/20/2005 8:20:09 PM PDT by llevrok (Semper Conservatatis)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

One bloody revolution, followed by Napoleonic Wars, and the mindless tactics of World War I basicly eliminated the tall and strong Gallic gene from France's male population.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 8:20:33 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Dolphan

It is the difference between free cycling and socialized cycling. Plus, the French pedal backward.


22 posted on 07/20/2005 8:26:40 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Dolphan
It is one thing for the French to be second-best to Italy, Spain or Germany - all great cycling nations - but to constantly finish behind a rider from America, where cycling is about as popular and well-understood as team handball, well, that is something else.

Just wait 'til the U.S. wins the soccer World Cup someday (soon maybe), a sport that's almost a religion in the rest of the world but one most of the U.S. couldn't care less about. Then you'll really see Europe and the rest of the world go ballistic.

I can't wait. :-)

23 posted on 07/20/2005 8:29:24 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Dolphan

Maybe their bikes are from Franss, long known for its engineering prowess.


24 posted on 07/20/2005 8:30:32 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: Dolphan
In this case, Fats Domino said it all to the froggies:


''Ain't that a sha-ame ...''

25 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:24 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Dolphan

Le Frogs...(le croak...le croak)


26 posted on 07/20/2005 8:36:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: llevrok

Those who spat upon Lance were Basques.

They were mad because the Basque team of Euskatel-Euskadi were doing horribly.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 8:38:00 PM PDT by Dolphan (Duck!)
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To: Dolphan
Thanks for the ping... great article! I'll ping my TDF list.

Can't wait to see Lance up on that podium in Paris on Sunday for the seventh time... ;-)

28 posted on 07/20/2005 8:45:20 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Dolphan
I have a theory.

Maybe you can't be competitive when you ride with your hands in the air...

29 posted on 07/20/2005 8:45:56 PM PDT by ZOOKER (proudly killing threads since 1998)
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To: Dolphan
A sore spot for the French! I can't stop laughing!

Okay, Bender, I see it is funny, but why so funny?

They surrendered to Lrrr in 2109...

It was terrible! How do you clean a Frenchman?

You can't clean a Frenchman! You can only bury him and hope for the best...

30 posted on 07/20/2005 8:46:39 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: whattajoke; CyberCowboy777; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; ...
Tour de France ping! (Warning: Today's stage winner revealed in this article)

Try this link to get into the article: MercuryNews.com or go to bugmenot.com

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my Tour de France 2005 list.

31 posted on 07/20/2005 8:48:30 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"When the muslims introduce Sharia rule, the only sport you'll get is polo with a sheep's head."


Wrong. It will be polo with a infidels head.


32 posted on 07/20/2005 8:49:25 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: ZOOKER
I have a theory.

Maybe you can't be competitive when you ride with your hands in the air...

LOL! ;-D

33 posted on 07/20/2005 8:49:58 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg
You and me both.

It's gotten to the point that Lance has all but given up on Basso, Ullrich, etc. and is letting the Disco boys have some glory.

It's gotta' hurt that the winner of the Giro also won a stage today for Discovery. Which wipes out all the excuses for Basso being worn out.

34 posted on 07/20/2005 8:56:40 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Remember, they hated Him first.)
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To: saquin

I found it interesting when I went to the World Wrestling Championships for Wrestling in 1995 the way the Iranian contigent cheered. When Dave Schultz (you may remember him as the wrestler John Dupont shot) wrestled they would cheer for him as if he were one of their own. When Terry and Tom Brands wrestled the Iranians would boo them the entire match. My dad asked them why and they said Schultz won like a man and lost like a man, the Brands brothers did not. It seemed amazing to me that people could put aside political differences to respect those atheletes who were deserving.


35 posted on 07/20/2005 8:59:38 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Dolphan

"Hehe, love to stick it in the eyes of Le Frogs."

For some strange reason I envision a frenchman with frog legs pedaling a bike until he croaks. The French are hoppin' mad.


36 posted on 07/20/2005 9:08:11 PM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: Dolphan
Image hosted by Photobucket.com tant piss...
37 posted on 07/20/2005 9:15:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Dolphan

The American domination has become something of a sore subject, particularly in France.

La vie est pleine des déceptions, ceci est l'une d'entre elles. AFFAIRE AVEC ELLE
Life is full of disappointments, this is one of them. DEAL WITH IT


38 posted on 07/20/2005 9:20:41 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: llevrok

The French are inconsequential and have small.....appendages.


39 posted on 07/20/2005 9:24:06 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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I hope an American wins, so long as it isn't Lance Armstrong.

I am so tired of him. There is NO WAY he is winning this race, after testicular cancer, without the use of some kind of drugs.

NO WAY.

And, after his wife seeing him through the cancer, he drops her and ends up with a loser like Sheryl Crowe! Yuck!


40 posted on 07/20/2005 9:30:20 PM PDT by It's me
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To: It's me

You need to do a little research...on both statements.

You're wrong on both.


41 posted on 07/20/2005 9:40:18 PM PDT by USMA83
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To: Dolphan

I gotta give these Frenchys credit. I'm surprised that one of em hasn't put a stick in Lance's spokes. Especially with fans able to get so close to the riders.


42 posted on 07/20/2005 9:45:52 PM PDT by One Dight
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To: It's me

So how do you know this? Inquiring minds want to know.


44 posted on 07/20/2005 9:51:47 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: RichardW
Well, first, Armstrong did not meet his wife until after his cancer
diagnosis and treatment. Their divorce (sad as it is) was mutual.
In fact, the "Lance dumped his wife" sentiment is probably 180
degrees out of phase. Can't vouch for Sheryl Crow though only that
she did not enter the picture until after their final separation.

Many medical studies (one released just this month) document
the physiology of Lance before and after cancer. Bottom line, he
reshaped his body after cancer. He lost about 15 pounds while
retaining his power output. That yielded an approx. 10% increase in
power to weight ratio. For any elite athlete an improvement of their
performance by 2-3% is big. 10% is huge. Add to that a ton of
specific training, a great team and tactical excellence and you win the
TdF 6 (7!) times.
45 posted on 07/20/2005 10:07:28 PM PDT by USMA83
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Yes I can understand that but as a popular song of the period aluded to, ( How are you gonna keep them down on the frarm after they've seen Pari).I thought that the American Army may have replaced those lost Genes.


46 posted on 07/20/2005 10:08:39 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: USMA83

So a cycling god and a heck of a nice guy...

Right!!

I think you need a little research on Lances past and many affairs while he was married...


47 posted on 07/20/2005 10:11:51 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Look, I know Lance has serious character issues, past and present.
I am not an apologist for any of that. I certainly don't hold him up
as a moral role model.

But, I do get tired of the "Lance dopes" and "he dumped his wife
after cancer" comments when the facts don' support them.

And yeah, he is a great cyclist.


48 posted on 07/20/2005 10:18:12 PM PDT by USMA83
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To: USMA83

So no matter how much he trains for this event to the exclusion of everything else, no matter how motivated and is disciplined, he couldn't have done this?

Your discussion about the weight issue is interesting. If as is evident throughout the tour even the lightest amount of weight is cast aside it goes to the question of being in the best possible condition. Like a lot of competitive sports, it is a matter of seconds. Lance is only about 2:45 ahead of Basso. Does he also use drugs? What drugs? The hemocrit level has to be maintained at a certain level or they are out of the tour immediately. Has he ever failed a drug test?

Look, he was a champion triathlete long before he became a pure cyclist. This just didn't come out of the blue. He has the best team; the best coach, the best nutritionist; the best of everything. Give him a little credit. It isn't necessary to cheat to win. It is necessary to do the necessary work and preparation. That's what makes winners.


49 posted on 07/20/2005 10:42:50 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: USMA83

From what I've read of Sheryl Crow, she worked her butt off for her career. Before she made it big, she toured constantly. She's a not bad songwriter too. She's a hard worker.


50 posted on 07/20/2005 10:48:17 PM PDT by garyhope (moules et frites)
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