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Rand: Not enough troops in Iraq
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Posted on 07/21/2005 8:39:10 PM PDT by jmc1969

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1 posted on 07/21/2005 8:39:12 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Might also be that Iraq is not the world. Got to be ready for other needs.


2 posted on 07/21/2005 8:42:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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Kosovo was successful? What a crock.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 8:42:15 PM PDT by oolatec
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I think Rand waited two years too long to figure that out. All these coulda woulda shoulda's remind me of the old saying.... "If the Queen had balls, she'd be King"


4 posted on 07/21/2005 8:42:35 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: jmc1969

So, half a million troops for the two countries. Thanks, Rand. Apparently all you need to work at a "think" tank is the abilitiy to do straight line extrapolations. They probably think gasoline will be $6 next year and the average temperature next summer in the U.S. will be 137 degrees F.


5 posted on 07/21/2005 8:43:26 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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My hindsight is 20/20, too!


6 posted on 07/21/2005 8:44:47 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Not this §µ!† again.


7 posted on 07/21/2005 8:47:24 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: MJY1288

I agree. Sounds like something 9 out of 10 competent professionals would conclude 2 years later. Good to see this world class think tank come onboard.

I remember seeing a Marine Colonel being interviewed atop his vehicle about the day Baghdad fell smiling and telling a reporter that the looting taking place all around them at the moment was a good thing, a justified response to the tyranny by "the people". I knew in a heart beat that was a mistake. It took several more days for orders to change and our forces to start acting as police.

Oh well, something to get right if we ever do this again...


8 posted on 07/21/2005 8:55:03 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: jmc1969

Well, one could achieve the Rand ratio (1:100) in either of two ways: increase the number of the troops or decrease the population.


9 posted on 07/21/2005 8:56:40 PM PDT by GSlob
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1,000 troops for every 100,000 inhabitants.

If math serves correctly, that's one soldier for every 100 inhabitants? Sounds overboard. We'd be accused of being too repressive, wouldn't we?

10 posted on 07/21/2005 8:56:48 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Kosovo was successful? What a crock.

You and I and everyone else here know this is a crock. This UPI reporter is making Clinton appear larger than life, as Clinton is still searching out his legacy. If Kosovo is so successful, I cannot figure out why we're still there tonight.

11 posted on 07/21/2005 9:14:42 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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Maybe the Rand Corporation could fight all the wars on paper. Yeah, that's the ticket.


12 posted on 07/21/2005 9:16:46 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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If your right, do we send in more troops now? Or stick it out with what we have and let everything keep going along as it is.


13 posted on 07/21/2005 9:20:13 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (1980's RR-Communism Evil Empire 2000's GWB-Communism good for Business)
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Having and maitaining a larger force would definitely make us look like an army of occupation rather than an army of liberation. This would have created the need for even more troops and an ever increasing escalation. Given the historical low low low level of casualties in this conflict I think our generals should be writing the books rather than Rand Corp.


14 posted on 07/21/2005 9:20:26 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: jmc1969

how many wars has rand fought and won?


15 posted on 07/21/2005 9:23:01 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Skeeve14

Probably no more troops. But we’ve never just, “let everything keep going along as it is”. We and the insurgents are constantly and radically changing tactics and adjusting to each others changes. The side that can adjust the fastest, best and longest wins.

I think the author’s speaking to a window in which the enemy had a cover of chaos to regroup, like a cancer that had been partially cut out and not immediately followed up with chemo.

The cancer has now spread. The Iraqis are stuck with what the disease left them and are going to have to fight it to some kind of acceptable resolution themselves with our help. The insurgency is too deeply integrated in their body now for us operate and to carve it out externally with more troops.


16 posted on 07/21/2005 10:17:10 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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"Rand: Not enough troops in Iraq"

For what, more targets and higher causality figures? Sounds like a liberal solution, instead of throwing money at a problem, they want to throw away more lives.

Need more special forces composed of very rough and dangerous men without rules taking fight to the perps and their sympathizers throughout the world.
17 posted on 07/21/2005 10:29:04 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Rand, a major think tank, calculates that for security and stability in the "golden period" immediately following the invasion and the toppling of Saddam Hussein`s regime, the coalition should have deployed 1,000 troops for every 100,000 inhabitants.

LOL! I'll take the word of the military over bean counters on this question.

18 posted on 07/21/2005 10:40:24 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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Leftist claptrap. The government should pull all it's funding fron the Rand corporation, it's clearly a source for leftwing propaganda. Hey Rand, if you think you have a better idea, run for president. Until then, STFU.


19 posted on 07/21/2005 10:45:34 PM PDT by balch3
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Good point. If anything's a quagmire, it's Kosovo, not Iraq, where things bet better every day. Thanks Clinton.


20 posted on 07/21/2005 10:49:23 PM PDT by balch3
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