Posted on 07/22/2005 9:41:03 AM PDT by outlaw1_2003
Phoenix will be among among the first cities to participate in the initial phase of a national hiring partnership between The Home Depot and four of the country's leading national Hispanic organizations
(Excerpt) Read more at phoenix.bizjournals.com ...
Babblefish can be SUCH a pain in the ass....
To begin with, it is considered very rude to write comments about someone without pinging that person to let them know that you were discussing them. Since you have been registered for over four years I find it inconceivable that you did not know that. It is one of the strongest traditions of FR.
Secondly, your statement that I hire illegal aliens is false. That point has been made numerous times during the last few months. It is clearly set out on my profile page that I have never employed an illegal alien. I find it difficult to believe that you were unaware of that fact.
Thirdly, I find your derogatory statements about Hispanics, whether legal or not, to be very offensive. Regardless of your heritage, you have no license to come on a public forum such as FR and make the type of debasing remarks that you make about Hispanics. If you think theses threads are all about you, you're badly mistaken. The issues of immigration reforms are ones that concern all Americans. There is nothing unique about you that gives you any special privilege to deprecate Hispanics.
If you were a person of honor you would apologize for your rudeness and for the false personal statements that you made about me.
I apologize for not pinging you (I believe I did in another thread above), probably just forgot; in any event, your defense of illegal immigration and/or some weak-kneed "amnesty program" is well known, and I wrongly jumped to the conclusion that this is because you have a vested economic interest in the employment of such. (If not, then why in the world ARE you opposed to closing the border to illegal activity?)
However, I won't apologize for what you purport to be my "derogatory statements" about ILLEGAL (there you go forgetting that word again) aliens of hispanic descent. (By the way, when you forget to use "illegal" and just say "hispanic", that DOES make it about me).
Sadly, I WISH what I said about illegals being scared, poor and uneducated wasn't true; they ARE all those things, unfortunately, and they ARE a weight on government services because they don't get paid enough when they illegally come here to make a good living.
Are you unaware that the unemployment rate is 5%, or are you unaware of what that means in macroeconomic terms?
There are no other workers to fill those jobs. In, fact, since normal unemployment is 6%, that means that we do not have enough people to fill all of the jobs now available.
If the eleven million illegal immigrants were deported tomorrow, those eleven million jobs would go unfilled. If you personally know someone who claims to be unable to find a job because illegal immigrants have taken all the jobs, you should suggest to that person that they consider vocational counseling.
Yep, L.A. harbor (San Pedro). Is it hot up there where you are now?
This is the URL to their e-mail form.
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1306653358.1122074305@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdaddffdfidlkcgelceffdfgidgkg.0&CNTTYPE=PROD_META&CNTKEY=Customer%20Support/Contact%20Us&MID=9876
What's Spanish for "Where can I find the hammers?"
If the 11 million illegal aliens were deported tomorrow and 11 million additional legal immigrants were let into the United States tomorrow, then those jobs currently filled by the 11 million illegal aliens could be filled by the newly arrived 11 million legal immigrants.
Perfect! I applaud you for the proper terminology used regarding those here illegally - they are NOT illegal immigrants - they are illegal aliens.
I was born and raised in Torrance, and went back down there in 2001 to take care of my mom. It is hotter than hades, and since it is "monsoon season", humid as well. How's the weather down there?
The other day, I put a thermometer outside, and it was 115 in the shade before noon. I'm in Victorville, and we're surrounded by thunderheads, and there are severe thunderstorm warnings on the weather channel. We're hoping that the rain finally hits Victorville and cools us down. Lucerne Valley, Hesperia, Apple Valley, Barstow, and the foothills have been socked with hail storms for two days, and we haven't gotten anything.
Must be the "Victorville bubble"...
You have a great homepage. I hope many others read it.
The weather is great, I love it here by the ocean. Victorville sounds like Arizona with the high heat and monsoons. Beautiful but humid!
I have always made it very plain that I support the policies of President Bush. Those policies were spelled out in detail by the President when he began his campaign in 1999.
If you are a Texan you should know that they are the same policies he pursued as Governor.
He has always maintained that our present immigration laws do not reflect economic reality. He has always advocated a guest worker program. He has always maintained that we cannot secure our Southern border without a guest worker program. He was about to introduce legislation just prior to 9/11
President Bush does not hire illegal aliens either. But he does have a Masters of Business Administration degree from Harvard University and he understands the dependency of our economy on foreign workers, whether Hispanic, Indian, Asian or other. The vast majority of informed people agree with the President on the need for reform. Its a question of economics and security for the vast majority of people. It's only an emotional ethnic issue for a very few.
I do not oppose "closing the border" to illegal activity, I simply recognize as does the President, and as the Secretary of Homeland Security defense testified to Congress last week; we cannot secure our border until we enact a guest worker program.
We tried toe "seal" the border beginning in 1994. See my profile page for details. It was Jaine Gorelick's project under Janet Reno. The first 66 mile test area was a complete failure so the project was abandoned as not feasible. But with new sophisticated electronic surveillance technology we can secure the border, buy ONLY if we can remove the migrant worker traffic to ports of entry. Satellites, blimps, unmanned planes, underground sensors etc... cannot distinguish a member of MS-13 from a babysitter, and we can't apprehend and process everybody. Remove the laborers and the only people crossing the border will be criminals and terrorists. We can track them electronically and intercept them.
As far as distinguishing between legal and illegal immigrants, I don't. I have no need to. As far as I'm concerned there is no difference. I live in a city that is 40% Hispanic. I have never asked anyone what their citizenship or immigration status is, and I don't care. I decide for myself which people I like and which ones I don't like, not the government. I'm not any more an immigration enforcement office than an IRS enforcement officer than an EPA enforcement officrer, than a EEOC enforcement officer, FTC, FTA, FAA, BIA, FHA, FCA, etc...
I can't look at a person and tell whether their visa has expired. I'm not going to tip a waiter, cab driver, barber,porter etc.. any differently because of their immigration status. What difference does it make whether the mechanic at the dealership who repaired my automobile was legal or not as long as they did a good job?
Are you saying you support the President's guest worker prograsm?
Surely you don't mean issuing 11 million permanent residency visas. Or do you even know the difference?
Please let us know how you would admit these 11 million new immigrants. Or were you just making a very stupid, childish statement to cover up your ignorance of economics?
Yes there is. I and my family and every other Hispanic CITIZEN are LAW ABIDING. Our first action in the United States was NOT a LAW BREAKING ONE. Another difference is that we speak the language and are willing to assimilate, unlike the illegals coming over here now. I think the Administration and those on BOTH sides of the aisle in Congress who are for a "guestworker" program (especially a program that doesn't address the anchor babies my mom helps deliver and also pays for as a county resident) are doing so not for economic reasons (because I'd be willing to pay more than 99 cents per pound for oranges and more than 49 cents per pound for chicken) but to pander to Hispanic voters because of the outcry of vocal La Raza type groups.
Then work 7 days a week as as day laborer. What do these people do on those days when it isn't worth their time to be day laborers, sit home watching Gilligan Isaland reruns?
At least you are admitting that the day labor jobs are ones that Americans don't want to do. Since it isn't worth Americans' time to do them why do you object to immigrants doing them?
Lowes is better anyway.
If those jobs paid better, Americans would do them. It's a government (both parties guilty) who've read too many books about the French Revolution and don't want Americans to see the true cost of food and goods. It's not the jobs, it's the pay. Just earlier, I was stooped over sweating my considerably sized a55 off in the garden, and I've spent 12 hour days doing that on weekends. I don't shop at Walmart either; they use underpaid labor too, by the way, the labor just happens to be in China.
They saw you coming and assigned tasks accordingly???
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