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Group Aims to Save Rattlesnakes in New York Park
The Center for North American Herpetology ^ | 7/22/05 | CNAH

Posted on 07/22/2005 10:42:25 AM PDT by GreenFreeper

Group Aims to Save Rattlesnakes in New York Park

Westport, New York: The ponytailed environmentalist hiked down the ridge, over the gray rocks and matted brown leaves, stopped among the hardwoods, and said, "Right down the side, it's prime country here."

The warm, southeast-facing rock cliffs overlooking Lake Champlain mark the northern limit of the Timber Rattlesnake's habitat. Jaime Ethier, in boots and jeans, was bushwhacking from Champlain Palisades down to the pebbled shores of the lake - through terrain where he wouldn't see a coiled dark snake unless he nearly stepped on it. The Adirondack Council conservation director appeared unconcerned. He kept going off the trail to peer into crevices likely to hold a den of poisonous reptiles, whose spiky tails make the telltale rattle or buzzing sound when disturbed. He'd met a rattlesnake almost two years earlier in this forest 110 miles north of Albany and wanted to see another. Ethier was out of luck on a day of overcast skies and temperatures in the mid-50s, probably still too cool for the snakes.

Ethier's group wants to undo state conservation plans to allow mountain bikes in this neck of the 6-million-acre Adirondack Park, afraid cyclists will kill rattlers. Protected by state law, rattlers are considered a threatened species in New York, where bounties that led to their widespread killing were outlawed in 1971. State wildlife officials estimate New York has 3,000 to 6,000 rattlesnakes left, mostly around the Hudson Highlands and a dozen Adirondack dens.

But the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service has declined to list them under the federal Endangered Species Act. "There are so few statewide, we feel that losing one or two to a mountain bike would be a tragedy," explained John Sheehan, the council's spokesman. With more than 1,000 miles of trails and primitive roads already open to mountain bikes in the park, the group sees no need to add "recreational conflicts" to the rattlesnake's diminishing range.

Cyclists counter that riding on 5 miles of trails in the Split Rock Mountain Wild Forest will do little harm. "It's a low probability that a biker's going to run a snake over," said Paul Capone, trail coordinator for the Adirondack Park Mountain Biking Initiative. "I'm sure there are rattlesnakes in that area, but for the most part I would say they prefer the habitat on the rocky open areas where bikes will not be riding." Bikes are allowed in 1.3 million acres of Adirondack wild forest and excluded from 1 million acres of more primitive wilderness areas. But as state officials issue new forest conservation plans, cyclists are losing ground. At Split Rock Mountain, they're being kept off trails down to the shoreline. "The reason people like to go there is access to Lake Champlain," Capone said. "It's kind of a critical time for mountain biking."

Wildlife biologists say it's also a critical time for Timber Rattlesnakes, whose bite is seldom fatal to humans (they don't always inject venom). Fear, misunderstanding, development sprawl and their attraction as dead curios or live pets have shrunk numbers, habitat and prospects. Timber Rattlesnakes are found in rugged terrain and hardwood forests from east Texas to southern Wisconsin, and from north Florida to a spot in New Hampshire. Believed gone entirely from Maine and Rhode Island, they are considered threatened or endangered in the Northeast except Pennsylvania, which has licensed hunting.

Rattlers hibernate in winter and are active from about May through September. Females start reproducing at age 8 or 9, giving birth to litters of five to 12 every few years. They mate in late August. "Given their low reproductive rate along with a high mortality rate of young, as well as being killed or captured by humans, the Timber Rattlesnake is in serious trouble in the Northeast," James Beemer, a civilian Defense Department biologist, wrote in a 2001 study.

With no reports of snake-cyclist incidents in the Tongue Mountain Range above Lake George, where mountain biking is allowed on certain trails away from the dens, the state Department of Environmental Conservation says it expects none above Lake Champlain either but will monitor it. Rattlers have not been responsible for any fatalities in New York for decades. Unless you try to pick up or harass one, you stand a better chance of being struck by lightning than bitten, Beemer said.

After studying Timber Rattlesnakes for more than a decade on the U.S. Military Academy's reserve in the Hudson Highlands, he notes that the ambush hunters are deadly to mice, chipmunks and squirrels but are "extremely shy" of humans and will hide or try to leave unnoticed.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adirondacks; eco; ecology; endangered; environment; esa; herps; rattlesnakes; snakes
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To: Issaquahking
Interesting map! Incredible, actually! I'd hear about this but hadn't actually seen the map before - thanks for posting the link to it.

Hmmmmmm - I see they plan to shut down Salem.

41 posted on 07/22/2005 2:39:17 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: editor-surveyor

Ditto.


42 posted on 07/22/2005 2:43:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: GreenFreeper

It's true these critters reproduce very slowly and take a lot of time to recover from decimations in its population, but I still have a problem choosing rattlesnakes over people.

Well, OK, it depends on which people; if I have only terrorists to choose from, give me a rattlesnake any day. At least I know what it's going to do.


43 posted on 07/22/2005 3:45:29 PM PDT by Marauder (Those who target innocent civilians are evil incarnate.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
here in my area we have festivals solely for the purpose of rounding up and killing them.

I know about the Rattlesnake Roundups in Freer and San Patricio; where else in Texas does that happen? Abilene? Sweetwater?

I know there are plenty of rattlers around here if Noo Yawk wants to come get some.

44 posted on 07/22/2005 3:53:36 PM PDT by Marauder (Those who target innocent civilians are evil incarnate.)
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To: Marauder

Sweetwater is the one I'm familar with, although there are small local roundups in just about every town off the Caprock.


45 posted on 07/22/2005 4:05:06 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Zacs Mom; Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

Whoooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


46 posted on 07/22/2005 4:36:32 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: zip
lol - that's a real "Fear Factor" challenge, huh?!
47 posted on 07/22/2005 4:41:58 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: GreenFreeper

NITWITS!!!! Before we were married, my husband worked for the county weed dept. and they would catch,kill and freeze rattlesnakes all summer long. Then at the end of summer bbq, they would cook the stupid things. Yup, he tried to tell me they taste 'just like chicken'. That piece of meat didn't get close to my lips. Yuck.


48 posted on 07/22/2005 4:46:26 PM PDT by Cate
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To: GreenFreeper

Anytime someone uses the word sprawl I know which side of the fence they're on.


49 posted on 07/22/2005 4:59:32 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Zacs Mom; Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

Eons ago (1963) I was stationed at Ft Bragg, NC and we had a king snake named George. who we fed small Cottonmouths. Sometimes it took two or three trips to the river to find one but was worth the effort. Poisonous snakes never bothered me BUT OMG, a den like that would have me running a 4 minute mile away from there. lol


50 posted on 07/22/2005 5:45:14 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: GreenFreeper

I haven't seen too many snakes getting killed at the Tour de France.


51 posted on 07/22/2005 6:02:05 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: CHARLITE; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; ...
SAVE ALL SNAKES


52 posted on 07/22/2005 6:25:05 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: zip
lol ~ I've never been afraid of snakes either but I agree ~ a sight like that would be enough to inspire me to break the four minute mile!
53 posted on 07/22/2005 6:37:29 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Marauder
It's true these critters reproduce very slowly and take a lot of time to recover from decimations in its population, but I still have a problem choosing rattlesnakes over people.

There really is no need to choose, as rattlesnakes do quite well in 'disturbed' habitats. The problem comes when people kill them for being rattlesnakes.

54 posted on 07/22/2005 6:59:57 PM PDT by GreenFreeper (FM me to be added to the Eco-Ping List)
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To: CHARLITE
I'M A SNAKE - SAVE ME

55 posted on 07/22/2005 7:20:28 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: GreenFreeper

I was walking the trail at my cousin's ranch last April, and on the way out from the house we saw a rattler and just stepped around it; didn't see any reason to kill it.

By the time we came back it was dark, so I was using my flashlight to check where they normally coil up and wait for prey. I still didn't see it, but my nephew jumped and stepped back. I thought he probably had a damn good reason for doing that, so I did the same.

He said the rattler missed my knee by about 1/2". I was wearing my boots, but the tops don't go past mid-calf, so boots or no boots, I'd have been hit. I was lucky that time, but if I do that again, I'll have some real anti-snake gear.


56 posted on 07/22/2005 7:46:04 PM PDT by Marauder (Those who target innocent civilians are evil incarnate.)
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To: mylife

I woud add grizzlies, mountain lions, buffalo, tigers, pythons, cobras, skunks, piranas, polar bears and alligators to any park heavily used by New Yorkers.


57 posted on 07/22/2005 7:51:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: Smartass

Thanks for the ping!


58 posted on 07/22/2005 9:58:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Smartass
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59 posted on 07/22/2005 10:14:26 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: GreenFreeper
Freakin' idiots!

I've logged thousands of miles off-road in the mountains, plains, swamps and beaches on dirtbikes, ATV's and mountain bikes in the last 30 years and have NEVER run over a snake.

I ran over a squirrel once riding an on/off road bike home from work on PAVEMENT!

That dumb*ss pony-tailed dork will get his face bitten off if he keeps up his current snake tracking methods. Isn't it funny how the 'sophisticated' city liberals are so good at telling rural folks how to live?

60 posted on 07/22/2005 10:32:17 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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