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NYers to NYPD: 'I Do Not Consent to Being Searched'
The Village Voice ^ | July 21st, 200 | by Chisun Lee

Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by BigFinn


Spend $16.99 so you can wear this to your grave

Reacting to the NYPD's announcement Thursday afternoon that police would randomly—but routinely—search the bags of commuters, one concerned New Yorker quickly created a way for civil libertarians to make their views black-and-white. In a few outraged moments, local immigrant rights activist Tony Lu designed t-shirts bearing the text, "i do not consent to being searched." The minimalist protest-wear can be purchased here, in various styles and sizes. (Lu will not get a cut. The shirts' manufacture, sale, and shipment, will be handled by the online retailer. Lu encourages budget-conscious New Yorkers to make their own and wear them everywhere.)

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly had announced the legally obvious—that New Yorkers are free to decline a search and "turn around and leave." But Lu, who is a lawyer at Urban Justice Center, warned that even well-intentioned cops could interpret people's natural nervousness or anger as "reasonable suspicion." The possibility of unjustified interrogation and even arrest is real, Lu said.

Although police promised they would not engage in racial profiling, Lu said that, as with all street-level policing, people of color and poor immigrants would be particularly vulnerable, especially if encounters lead to arrests.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baaaaa; libertarianfools; nonprofiling; nothintohidehere; nyc; nypd; sheeple; stupidliberals; tshirt; villagevoiceisarag; wot
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To: RedRover

And that's just the male readers! ;-)


21 posted on 07/22/2005 11:17:54 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: BigFinn

If they make a Spanish and Arabic version, it'll be easier to spot the bad guys.


22 posted on 07/22/2005 11:18:58 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: BigFinn

Boy that was fast! Just another guy trying to make a buck...


23 posted on 07/22/2005 11:19:03 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: I see my hands
They can resign the nypd if they want.

They like being cops and doing the right thing, but they do have the brains to realize this is going to be a cluster*&ck and a half, if they stop arabs or muslims, or anyone not white, they'll get in trouble and if they stop white folks and that person files a complain, they'll still get in trouble.

Its asking someone to do the job with one hand behind your back, they already know how this turns out, and they also know how confrontational folks are over the dumbest things.

NYC is lucky no one becomes a cop for the money, you actually have got to want to do this, no one, ever becomes a cop in this city because of the pay or benefits.

24 posted on 07/22/2005 11:19:14 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
They totally hate this, and think this is one of the dumbest things they have ever been asked to do.

Do they have any thoughts on more effective tactics? Perhaps they need to express those thoughts to their commanders.

25 posted on 07/22/2005 11:19:35 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: beltfed308

Scary thinking there my friend.


26 posted on 07/22/2005 11:19:36 AM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: BigFinn

You can save money on letters and just write "I Support Terrorism" on your shirt.


27 posted on 07/22/2005 11:19:38 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: BigFinn
I hope they send a free one to Juanita Broadrick.
28 posted on 07/22/2005 11:20:12 AM PDT by jigsaw (Only morons believe the root cause of terrorism is our fight against terrorism.)
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To: BigFinn

Not a problem. But you forfeit the right to complain if a bomb goes off in the subway.


29 posted on 07/22/2005 11:20:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: SandyInSeattle

Walk... or should you try and force your way on... DIE!


30 posted on 07/22/2005 11:20:25 AM PDT by johnny7 (Racially-profiling since 1963)
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To: BigFinn

And these will be the first idiots to whine that they're not being protected if something ever did happen. Not only whine, but sue. They're nothing but parasites.


31 posted on 07/22/2005 11:20:42 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: kellynla
if ya have nothin' to hide; then ya have no reason to object...

You're right!

I wonder why the framers of the Constitution didn't realize that?

</sarcasm>

32 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Random searches are, without doubt, unreasonable, meaning it cannot be reasoned that they will detect bombers by random searches.

Therefore, they are a violation of the 5th Amendment.

If your respect for the Constitution is so low that you consider anyone who stands up for it a moonbat, then you're . . .

(remainder of sentence self-censored)


33 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:05 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: RedRover
As a New Yorker, I consent to anything that will make me safer

Of course, you do realize there's nothing in this scheme that actually will make you safer, right?

34 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:06 AM PDT by gdani (While terrorists are busy planning the *next* attacks we work to prevent their *previous* attacks)
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To: muleskinner
How about start training a bunch of bomb-sniffing dogs?

Expensive and rare things, trained dogs. They aren't stamped out in Chevrolet trunklid factories.

35 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: BigFinn

Lu must be a member of DU, they don't know how to use capitalization either.


36 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:14 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Millee

Apparently, these New Yorkers have forgotten they don't have to give their consent in order to be bombed by terrorists.


Frankly, I think that the only thing wrong with searching bags is the stupidity of making it random.

It's politically correct, sure, but a waste of my grandma's time.


37 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:36 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: kellynla
if ya have nothin' to hide; then ya have no reason to object...

Or, to put it another way:

"If you have done nothing wrong, comrade, then you have nothing to fear."
- Lavrenti Pavlovich Beria (1899 - 1953), chief of the Soviet Secret Police (NKVD) under Stalin.

38 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:40 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: oceanview
they had better start taking it more seriously - because telling citizens to "report suspicious people" and call an 800 number, is about 100 times dumber then having the police be watchful and picking out people to search.

Something like 3.5 to 4 million passengers ride the NYC mass transit system every work day. Do you really thing that randomly searching (or even selectively searching based upon profiles) a couple thousand people a day is going to discourage a person from blowing up atrain or bus if that is their mission? Get real.

39 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:48 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Radio_Silence

I had posted that it IS dangerous thinking. For some reason it posted my response in italics. Preview looked fine.


40 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:50 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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