Skip to comments.NYers to NYPD: 'I Do Not Consent to Being Searched'
Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by BigFinn
Reacting to the NYPD's announcement Thursday afternoon that police would randomlybut routinelysearch the bags of commuters, one concerned New Yorker quickly created a way for civil libertarians to make their views black-and-white. In a few outraged moments, local immigrant rights activist Tony Lu designed t-shirts bearing the text, "i do not consent to being searched." The minimalist protest-wear can be purchased here, in various styles and sizes. (Lu will not get a cut. The shirts' manufacture, sale, and shipment, will be handled by the online retailer. Lu encourages budget-conscious New Yorkers to make their own and wear them everywhere.)
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly had announced the legally obviousthat New Yorkers are free to decline a search and "turn around and leave." But Lu, who is a lawyer at Urban Justice Center, warned that even well-intentioned cops could interpret people's natural nervousness or anger as "reasonable suspicion." The possibility of unjustified interrogation and even arrest is real, Lu said.
Although police promised they would not engage in racial profiling, Lu said that, as with all street-level policing, people of color and poor immigrants would be particularly vulnerable, especially if encounters lead to arrests.
I haven't visited the Rockford Institute since 1998, when I was a grad student at U of Chicago. I used to be a Paleocon, then I grew up.
then any type of law enforcement, taken as an attempt to prevent an act from occuring, rather then investigate it after it has occurred, violates the constitution.
do I have a constitutional right to fly on a plane anonymously? why are they asking for ID and examining the lists of passenger names? the searching of trucks entering NYC tunnels - that violates the 4th amendment too, so we must do away with that I guess.
what can we do domestically to provide some deterrent? between the left and the libertarians, we might as well just surrender domestically.
Excellent Post! This has been an excellent thread.
"I was just using that as an analogy - suppose we had no immigration issue with mexico - no one was coming here from mexico. then what would border security be for?"
What do you mean by "no immigration issue with mexico?"
But anyway, this is not the case - we do have immigration issues with Mexico and the rest of the third world who's allowed to pour their unwanted, undesirable elements into our country. Legal immigration is a bigger issue than illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a short-term problem, hopefully, while legal immigration is a critical long-term, state-sanctioned issue. Illegal immigrants shoul be deported to their respective countries and should not have been allowed to enter through our lax borders. Legal immigration laws must be changed to what they were prior to the paasge of the '65 Immigration Act.
"Diversity is tyranny. "
Diversity is perversity. ;)
I said SUPPOSE. Suppose the purpose of border security with mexico had nothing to do with illegal immigration - suppose Mexico was an economic shangri-la and no one was crossing into the US. what then would be the purpose of border security with Mexico? national security. so if we apply the same "odds maker" theory, we wouldn't need any of it, since the chances of catching a terrorist crossing is small.
I was going to ask you what you wanted to be when you grew up. Lol!
You seem to have had your growing up process reversed. It usually goes from theory (infancy) to law (adult). You seem to have gone from law to infancy. Am not saying you're an infant. I'm only using terms that come to my deranged mind as I type here.
Be good and don't ever change (except on immigration issues and ideology, of course). And, when are you going to change that name to a masculine gender? You're a man, right?
Search 125 Broad Street, 18th floor. NYC. Chances are good there will be anti US/pro Islamic terrorism info tucked away somewhere.
I am named after the GREATEST cinematic Capo of all time, one Peter Clemenza. You want to "go the mattress with me?" Oh, "Leave the gun, take the cannoli."
"Diversity is perversity. ;)"
OK. About combining the two slogans to: "Diversity is forced perversity"?
"The war on drugs has already eroded most of our freedoms"?
Most of 'em? I'm looking around trying to find the ones I lost - Damnee, can't find one! - Yer teasing me, yer gotta be a doper! right? come on now, tell the truth! You sneeky you!
Your supposition is irrelevant if them Mexicans are still allowed to migrate to the States legally. To habeus corpus OR not to habeus corpus. That is the question.
Hey, a little Latin doesn't hurt. I think I used the expression correctly, didn't I? ;)
Ok. Thought you were using Clemenza as a first name.
Maranzano is my mentor and consanquine (sp?). Related to Bonanno, Provenzano and Di Benedetto.
Clemenza must have been on the other camp of the Castellamarese War, 'cause the name doesnt ring a ny bells.
Are you sure you spelled them cannolli correctly?
Disregard my prior post. Just noticed the "cinematic".
You were talking fantasy land, while I was pouring my guts out.
Boy, that one sent me Googling.
We're going to eventually have to kill every freaking one of them if we're going to survive.
I believe the Islamists in general can be quarantined, and we (could have?) can annihilate the core group of Jihadists in such a manner as to discourage future problems from these varelse.
But, of course, the ill conceived Bush "hearts and minds" Iraq campaign is counter productive and has set us back years, tears, and fortune.
And all so tragically unnecessary had Bush and his minions been focused on OUR national security and not retreated from Pakistan!
I hope it's a pejorative. What does it mean?
No one that went to grad school in 1998 is a grownup. ;-)
I hope it's a pejorative. What does it mean?
You should be asking zeugma!
I didn't memorize the definition, but yeah I'd say it's pejorative. Something akin to outer space aliens.
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