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To: SandyInSeattle

Random searches are, without doubt, unreasonable, meaning it cannot be reasoned that they will detect bombers by random searches.

Therefore, they are a violation of the 5th Amendment.

If your respect for the Constitution is so low that you consider anyone who stands up for it a moonbat, then you're . . .

(remainder of sentence self-censored)


33 posted on 07/22/2005 11:21:05 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace
If your respect for the Constitution is so low that you consider anyone who stands up for it a moonbat, then you're . . .

Oooh, aren't we testy!

The MOONBAT refers to anyone stupid enough to wear a T-Shirt that's "in your face" to cops that are probably a bit annoyed anyway.

As for unconstitutional, I doubt it. There's no constitutional right to get on a subway, therefore those who ride are subject to whatever security those who own it dream up.

68 posted on 07/22/2005 11:31:50 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: savedbygrace
cannot be reasoned that they will detect bombers by random searches

It can be reasoned that random seaches will DETER bombers.

112 posted on 07/22/2005 11:40:00 AM PDT by noexcuses
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To: savedbygrace

Nonsense. Please back up your claim.


119 posted on 07/22/2005 11:42:02 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: savedbygrace

However, I believe that this type of search does not violate the Fifth Amendment. Here's why: The police are not stopping people on the street and randomly searching them. The city is saying that as a condition of riding the subway, you might be subject to a bag search. If someone doesn't consent to the search, they are free to do two things: leave their bag at home, or not ride the subway. That is not a violation of the Constitution.


216 posted on 07/22/2005 12:05:24 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: savedbygrace
Random searches are, without doubt, unreasonable, meaning it cannot be reasoned that they will detect bombers by random searches.

Therefore, they are a violation of the 5th Amendment.

I have to say that I agree with you, and that if they search a few people entering the subway they should have to search everyone.

I suspect that it will be defended on the same grounds that they use to randomly stop cars at DWI checkpoints though. It's sad that the terrorist scum is bringing us to this level. I just pray that we win the war in my lifetime.

364 posted on 07/22/2005 12:48:11 PM PDT by jpl
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To: savedbygrace

"meaning it cannot be reasoned that they will detect bombers by random searches."

Hogwash.

If you profile, you increase the chances of finding someone with a bomb under their coat by a thousand fold. Once found with a bomb one, can easly reason that profiling and searches worked.


468 posted on 07/22/2005 1:58:07 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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