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Turner to stump for DMZ ecology (Are starving North Koreans endangering the environment?)
Atlanta Journa Constitution ^ | July 23, 2005 | MARK BIXLER mbixler@ajc.com

Posted on 07/23/2005 2:07:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 07/23/2005 2:07:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Glimpses of a Hermit Nation***....Aside from a small, ragged seafood market at the east end of the harbor, the waterfront is desolate. The government has installed high fences to keep residents from leaving or fishing, which is illegal for individuals.

Perched above the port, in the style of the Hollywood sign, giant letters crumbling into the hillside proclaim, "Long Live Kim Il Sung," referring to North Korea's founder, who died in 1994. Other signs throughout the city herald his son and successor, Kim Jong Il, as the "Son of the 21st Century."

The city, though, looks like it never emerged from the 1960s. Most buildings are whitewashed cinderblock apartments or row houses built after the area was heavily bombed by the United States during the Korean War, and they give Chongjin a monochrome bleakness. Even the red paint of the propaganda billboards — "We are happy," and "We have nothing to envy," read two of the slogans — has faded in the sun.

"I had the impression of a ghost town. It was really colorless, gray. There was no life," said Violaine de Marsangy, a French aid worker who spent six weeks in Chongjin in 1999.

The big power plant on the waterfront operates at about 25% of capacity, so when dusk falls, swaths of the city vanish into darkness. Kathi Zellweger of the Catholic charity Caritas recalls being driven into Chongjin: "It's pitch dark at night, so dark you can't even tell there is a city."

West of the port is an industrial area, home to Chongjin Steel Co., Chemical Textile Co., May 10 Coal Mine Machinery Factory and Kimchaek Iron & Steel. These were once the pride of North Korea's industrial sector. No longer.

"Chongjin was like a forest of scrap metal, with huge plants that seem to go on for miles and miles that have been turned into rust buckets," said Tun Myat, who in 1997 became one of the first senior U.N. officials permitted to visit the city. "I've been all over the world, and I've never seen anything quite like this."....***

2 posted on 07/23/2005 2:14:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wouldn't it be just awful if Ted the Red would be taken hostage when he's over there among his people....wouldn't it?


3 posted on 07/23/2005 2:17:35 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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"He said it makes sense to plan now to protect the DMZ's ecosystem rather than risking its economic development in the event of Korean unification or other events."

Leave the whole darn DMZ to rot for the sake of fish, deer and flowers? What about the people who owned that land? What about the fact that much of it would be valuable farmland? Yes, it would be awful if the geographically small country that is Korea were to utilize the few natural resources given to it. /sarc

4 posted on 07/23/2005 2:20:19 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, and Roe all have to go. Will Roberts get us there--don't know. No more Souters.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Damn, those socialist success stories are something ain't they Hillary, Ted?


5 posted on 07/23/2005 2:24:54 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Turner is worried about the varmints and fauna in the DMZ? Turner has screwed up priorities.


6 posted on 07/23/2005 2:27:20 AM PDT by demlosers (Allegra: Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home.)
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To: kittymyrib

Yes.

Can't they just keep him?


7 posted on 07/23/2005 2:31:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: LibertarianInExile
"I'm so ronely"


8 posted on 07/23/2005 2:33:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Waco; demlosers
It sounds like Ted needs a visit from Team America.


9 posted on 07/23/2005 2:34:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The other day, NK said free electricity wasn't 'enough'. They want a good deal more from the US. One can only guess what else, but as things stand, they'll have to get in line behind the Arabs and everybody else.


10 posted on 07/23/2005 2:38:48 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As for Ted, why doesn't he turn his vast properties into conservation land?


11 posted on 07/23/2005 2:42:02 AM PDT by hershey
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***.........The Turner Foundation has doled out $165,000 to the Ruckus Society, an ultraviolent anti-"globalism" group. Ruckus is not the usual bunch of angry activists marching around toting signs or dressed up like vegetables. It's a covert militia, a small but potent army determined to cripple corporate America.

Ruckus operatives run training sessions for starry-eyed, mayhem-minded activists before major demonstrations like those in Seattle, Washington D.C., and Genoa. There, radical wannabes learn "urban climbing and rappelling," "police confrontation strategies," "street blockades," and other forms of disruption. Huge amounts of tax dollars are spent monitoring and controlling their intent to destroy property.

Ruckus is at the core of what Philadelphia Police Commissioner John Timoney called "a cadre… of criminal conspirators" who "go in and cause mayhem." Timoney would know; in Ruckus-aided protests during the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, 15 of his officers were injured, and 23 police cars damaged.

But to the Ruckus Society, none of that matters. Says their director, John Sellers: "I think you can be destructive, you can use vandalism strategically." (When Sellers was arrested by Timoney's men, officers confiscated piano wire and gasoline-soaked rags tied to chains from fellow demonstrators at the scene.) "It may be violence under the law, but I just don't think it's violence."

Ruckus openly engages in domestic terrorism with the goal of instilling fear in the commercial establishment and the consumer public that supports it. Witness the anti-World Trade Organization (WTO) riots in Seattle in 1999, when trained hoodlums ran roughshod over the city's commercial district, smashing windows, setting fires, overturning vehicles, ransacking stores, and putting lives at risk.

At Ruckus's Action Camps, footsoldiers learn all about "using the media to your advantage." In the midst of the flames and screams of Seattle, Ruckus staffers could be found giving on-the-record quotes to national media figures. When it was all over, Sellers did not express remorse for the damage done. Instead, he smugly told USA Today, "We kicked the WTO's butt all over the Northwest."

Sellers has a reason to be smug: The Ruckus Society is achieving its goals. By breaking laws, escalating conflicts between police and protesters, and operating military-style training camps, Ruckus has opened the door for other anti-consumer radicals. To be taken seriously within "the movement," Ruckus is proving, activists must be prepared to engage in organized conflict with police officers. It's not activism; it's insurrection. ...............***


http://www.consumerfreedom.com/oped_detail.cfm/oped/139




12 posted on 07/23/2005 2:52:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kittymyrib

They may barbeque his fat butt!


13 posted on 07/23/2005 2:58:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www.dmzforum.org/news_events/tedturner.php


14 posted on 07/23/2005 3:01:58 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: kittymyrib

It would be better if he takes his ex-wife, Commie Traitor Jane Fonda and several fruitcakes with him.

Turner is just plain weird. He's detached from reality. He's worried about fauna and flora on the DMZ?

I'm worried about N. Korean nukes. I'm concerned that millions of people are miserable slaves in another insane state like N. Korea. I'm not worried about some snail darters or a couple of plants in the DMZ.

Maybe he could worry about the thousands of tunnels the NK's have dug in to S. Korea.

Get some perspective dude!


15 posted on 07/23/2005 3:05:44 AM PDT by garyhope (Gimme iced tea)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
few humans have ventured into the DMZ in the last half century

I thought the DMZ was patrolled by both sides. Excuse my if I am being rudely skeptical but 2 miles wide and roughly 155 miles long is 310 square miles, not all of it river of course. Do they really expect me to believe that 80 species of fish exist in this area and nowhere north or south of the DMZ?

16 posted on 07/23/2005 3:08:51 AM PDT by Better Dead Than Red (Davis College Republicans (Best Party on Campus))
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Or his fat head!

LOL


17 posted on 07/23/2005 3:11:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Better Dead Than Red

It is a huge stretch.


18 posted on 07/23/2005 3:12:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: endthematrix

At your LINK:

***"Global Inspiration for Transboundary Peace
and Nature Reserve" with Speaker Mr. Ted Turner***

Barf!


19 posted on 07/23/2005 3:13:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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20 posted on 07/23/2005 3:20:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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