CIA Leak Investigation Turns to Possible Perjury, Obstruction (DNC talking points alert)

L.A. Times ^ | July 23, 2005 | Douglas Frantz, Sonni Efron and Richard B. Schmitt, Times Staff Writers

[Sacajaweau]

As soon as I ACCIDENTLY found out who Cooper's wife was, I went on from there. The fact that Cooper's wife had not been mentioned in ANY early articles, Hillary's noticeable silence and massive confusion (Hillary characteristic) led me to conclude that "somebody's lying and playing the "is" game and that means "The Clintons".

In an interview the other day,Bubba's face and words displayed his utter hate for Rove as a strategist.

My contention is that because Hillary is involved, she is blocked into a corner and the video bit (which was already underway) was all she could be visible on.

[AliVeritas]

(He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”)

Whoa, indeed.

[Alia]

I do, and thank you for posting this here: It's also detailed in Ed Klein's book.

[Alia]

... and the OOPS is growing to include a number of outside-the-Beltway anti-American groupies, domiciled here in the US. How many U.S. Students were fed "fraud" about the WOT by their professors?

[G.Mason]

The more that I read about this, plus listening and watching the Dims "only" pannel on MTV ... er ... I mean ^C - Spam, the more I think there was a conspiracy to toss an election. Possibly, just possibly, this entire sordid affair will be brought out into the open for all to smell.

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a conspiracy to toss an election...

Leaked reports and forged intelligence under the nose of a Clinton-appointed CIA director. Wilson's wife worked on WMD at Langley? Can you say "slam dunk"?

[Sacajaweau]

You may very well be right. There certainly seems to be a plot to it, much like Rathergate....Start with a false premise and just keep on hitting it.

[chgomac]

How did Cooper know enough to even ask the question?.

Wow, nice catch! Yours could be a key question that should be asked.
This investigation looks more & more like a tight ball of twine where you'd keep pulling on a loop trying to find an "end".

Another question would be who are they & what was the motive of the disgruntled agency people who supposedly made up a false WMD report? Are they truly so crass that they would do this in a time of war, just to bring down the president?

[Sacajaweau]

When administrations change...there is a huge change in who's occupying a desk. There are plenty of plush jobs that go out the window one way or another. The bigger dudes, like Berger and Wilson, go begging back to their political parties with their "loyalty" credentials and turn up in advisory capacities.

[chgomac]

Sac, I'm basically an optimistic woman who looks for the good in people, and I try to not question other's motives. So please be patient with me. I know there is turnover, but am I naive to hope that civil service career people owe their allegience to the country---not the ones currently in office. Are you saying that Dem opposition to Iraq is a smokescreen & their only motive is to bring down this administration?

Could career agents of the CIA, one of the most important groups in keeping the USA safe & secure, become so infected by partisans, that even in a time of war they couldn't put politics aside.

I believed they sincerely thought our war Iraq was a mistake based on wrong intellegence.

[elli1]

I would not take that as a given – Judith Miller will be working as a reporter long after this President has left office, and without the ability to quote "anonymous" sources” within administrations both Republican and Demorat...

Good point but I don't think the source that they're protecting is anyone inside the administration.

[M. Dodge Thomas]

And, surely, nobody thinks the need to show accountability has stopped any of the UK press.

Well, in fact it does - at least as far as regards "government leaks", the biggest difference is that the UK press is subject to "prior restraint" on such issues.

Of course in the UK the political opposition plays a much more direct role of "devils advocate" in somewhat the same way that the press does here: Tony Blair has to respond directly to questions from the opposition in Parliament, President Bush does not have appear in front of Congress to be interrogated by Democrats.