Skip to comments.CAFTA outlaws many vitamins & supplements - stop CAFTA NOW!
Posted on 07/23/2005 6:26:34 AM PDT by disclaimer
Defeat CAFTA and save your supplements. You must ACT NOW!
ACT NOW to preserve your access to nutrients, effective vitamins and minerals, and nutritional medicine! We have leverage - it's very close, perhaps within 1 vote!
Listen to Len & Joe (Ask the Pharmacist Group) discuss why this is an important issue for all of us!
CAFTA - BAD for jobs, small businesses, health stores, health freedom
In the fine print the US is being signed up to global regulations that override US supplement laws.
The outcome for CAFTA is up for grabs, as the vote is very close in the House of Representatives.
This is a unique opportunity to get our issue before Members of Congress who have not heard of Codex. The more people who call, the better.
A much larger number of calls are needed to delay CAFTA.
Contact Congress today
Call your Representatives' office
Call 1-202-224-3121 weekdays or call your representatives' local district office. If possible, take the time to visit their local district office in person.
Email your Representative. We've provided a link to a letter that you can edit to make it easy for you.
It's close! You can influence the decision.
Please ask your Representative to make arrangements with staff to remain vigilant. The treaty could be introduced to the House in the middle of the night or in the early morning.
It will take a lot of pressure, and many more calls and letters to raise this issue of the international threat to supplements. Many in Congress have not yet heard of Codex.
If opposition succeeds in delaying CAFTA, it could still come back for a vote later.
Calls need to number in the millions if we are to make this a 'third rail' issue. It is going to take sustained involvement by the public over a long time, to achieve adequate status for natural medicine.
I'm on it unfortunately my congressman is leaning towards CAFTA.
Oh sure drop everything.
we can do many things at the same time!
Speak for yourself. For some of us, supplements are what's keeping us alive.
I do, just like the war on terror, it's about our freedom, sovreignty, and the right to live our way of life without foreign restriction. Why should a trade agreement subject us to the restrictions other countries impose on their citizenry?
Slimy Republicans endanger Americans' access to health supplements...
Yeah, freedom's a bitch, ain't it?
Are you able to complete your thought, or are we to guess what your point is.
is there a freeper poll on this and/or some fairly balanced information?
i've never had time to research the whole cafta issue but there is an ad playing on local tv asking me to call my rep (by name) and beg him not to get on board.
Our sovereignty is being given away by GATT, WTO, NAFTA, and CAFTA.
It is like when the formed the European Union. It went from a trade block to what is now planned as a new country.
These agreements are the first steps to political merger. So long Bill of Rights, we hardly knew ye.
CAFTA won't pass the house without the help of the Republican leadership, which is apparently ready and willing to bribe, twist arms, etc. to get CAFTA passed. If Codex is adopted in this country as a result of CAFTA, you access to health supplements will be restricted to prescriptions. Hence, Slimy Republicans endanger Americans' access to health supplements.
I am glad you mentioned this. I had no idea. I think if that slipped through and people realized that their supplements were not freely available there might be riots in the streets. There are still a few things in America that will light a fire under peoples butts.
CAFTA aside, I've come to believe that the supplements business is dominated by cons and scam artists.
Examples: Body Solutions, CortiSlim. Both made megamillions, both have been shown to have made totally unsupportable claims for weight loss. The first shut down a few years ago, the second is well on its way. Both co-opted and duped a few celebrities, ponied up some incomplete and shoddy "studies," and made their mint. Both sets of owners are, I am quite sure, filthy rich for having provided nothing of value even after having been shut down, or being near it.
Another example: St. John's Wort. Touted as an energy and memory enhancer as I recall. Comprehensive studies proved it worthless.
The unregulated supplements business gives crafty scam artists who can fool a few famous people the ability to dupe consumers, provide no benefit, and become rich through immoral means. I'd rather have no regulation, but no regulation, which is where the supplements industry has been for about 12 years, hasn't worked. I'm sure there are good supplements out there, but at this point they are all being tarred because of the snake-oilers.
If CAFTA effectively puts supplements back under FDA, I would have to reluctantly say that's a good thing.
Next, we can have a discussion about what level of proof the FDA should consider acceptable. Yes, their standards are in some cases too high, and their reluctance to make treatments and perhaps certain supplements available should be addressed.
I'm also going to suggest that if you are affiliated with the folks at the external link, you have a financial interest in the outcome and shouldn't be posting under News & Activism. I say that because I blog on items that are REAL news and can't convince the Admin Mod to classify my real news items as News.
Nonsense. For all the heavy-duty advertisers, there are dozens if not hundreds of honest herb and vitamin makers. I'm talking about honest, good companies like Shiff, Twinlab, Avita, and Oy-Ex. Anything that promises "effortless" weight loss (especially) should be eyed with suspicion.
And, for the record, St. Johns Wort has been helpful to some. However, someone with a major case of depression should (a) have a physical done to see if there's a physical cause, and (b) seek psychological counseling. I don't think throwing something in pill-form at the problem without the rest will do a very good job.
Let's do try to remember, too, that many of the products sold (also with mass advertising) by pharmaceutical companies have proven to be worthless at best, and life-threatening at worst. Just because it's prescribed doesn't mean it's safe, or that it's effective.
I'd suggest that you research CAFTA by reading evaluations of the agreement by organizations that you trust. Personally, I don't believe in 'balanced' information. I don't care to know how this agreement stacks up to liberal values, so I don't need that distorted information for evaluation.
I disagree. Fools will always be easily separated from their money. But there are 1000's of reputable manufacturers and distributors who provide quality assayed supplements without any nanny statist regulations.
If CAFTA effectively puts supplements back under FDA, I would have to reluctantly say that's a good thing.
More governmental restrictions on the marketplace is not a good idea. The consumers are responsible for making their own educated choices.
I blog on items that are REAL news and can't convince the Admin Mod to classify my real news items as News.
The mods are very astute about such things.
You forgot to add that it will starve children and old people.
With all due respect, to all who are swallowing this propaganda I'd assume you would actually READ the treaty than rely on a special interest group press release.
CAFTA Facts; CAFTA and Dietary Supplements
So no offense but maybe you should read this.www.ustr.gov (WARNING it's in PDF)
CAFTA is being deionized by 'almost' every special interest group in the US as the next thing worse than a deal with the Devil himself. And about a week ago someone on a thread said CAFTA would effect our 2nd Amendment rights - which is utter nonsense.
I don't know what it is but CAFTA is turning normally sane people into moonbats.
The CAFTA-DR will not limit consumer access to dietary supplements in any way, nor will it change the way the federal government or U.S. states regulate dietary supplements.
Contrary to assertions some have made, the CAFTA-DR will not require the United States to:
apply the recently adopted Codex Alimentarius Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Supplements. In fact, the agreement imposes no obligations regarding Codex standards or guidelines. The Codex Guidelines provide voluntary guidance to governments relating to the composition of vitamin and mineral supplements and criteria for establishing maximum amounts of vitamins and minerals per daily portion of supplement consumed.
change the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), which regulates dietary supplements in the United States.
Allow me to add the names NOW Foods, Pure Encapsulations, Enzymatic Therapy and Vitamin Research Products (VRP).
Maybe you should read before posting, too. I was responding to post #2, which said, "Who cares about vitamins."
Beat me by two minutes.
You can't post facts here!! You have to follow the moonbat line.. If you don't you will be called a Bush Bot....
That's smart. Close the front door and leave the back door open so the sovereignty of our nation can be surrendered by new world order "W".
Understand this one thing. "W" is not a conservative. Therefore, he will push us toward accepting laws and treaties that normalize our laws with the rest of the world even if they violate our Constitution. He's the genius who wants to pay social security benefits to illegal immigrants who have worked in the United States for five years, even if they have returned to their home of origin.
It takes an American citizen or legal immigrant ten years of work to qualify for Social Security.
"W" is our liberal, new world order president in Conservative clothing.
CAFTA is a killer.
St. John's wort is an herbal remedy for depression. But we can't have a natural remedy being used when there are much more expensive and dangerous big pharma alternatives now can we?
If it works for many people, what gives you or CAFTA the right to decide otherwise?
Your argument is the same as those who wish cancer sufferers to be denied marijuana to control nausea and pain, simply because it is a natural growing medicine, and cannot be controlled by the pharmacuetical industry.
Maybe you were thinking of Ginkgo Biloba, which is an herbal memory enhancer.
Perhaps you should try some and see if it works for your not-so-good memory.
Must be a bit unconfortable wearing Kevlar every day in anticipation of that inevitable nearby bomb-blast.
Do you live in Gaza, or the U.S?
Yes, those too are good brands. I hate to see the good companies painted with the same brush as the huckster companies.
Posting facts to the wrong people, you mean. I commented that I =do= in fact care about vitamins, so I get the "you stupid moonbat" treatment. I did not address the CAFTA issue yet, mainly because I'm still studying it.
I am also in support of a free market economy - let the buyer beware. I take time to research and understand the vitamins and supplements I take, I don't feel sorry for those who get scammed. If you don't know how to use gasoline correctly, you just may get burned. Should we outlaw gasoline? How about those who buy the higher grades of gas thinking it's better for their car, they pay more but in the vast majority of the cases it doesn't actually benefit them. Buyer beware.
If you think the government should be in the position of telling us what vitamin is good for us and what isn't, then you are saying that you believe the government will be acting in your best interest when it has proven time and time again that it doesn't work that way. If you have a powerful lobby, your drug/scam/"high priced item" can be government approved no problem.
Research has clearly shown that many heath conditions can be improved or even cured by taking food supplements. It's not all that surprising to me that the body can heal itself if given what it needs since many of those conditions are caused by poor nutrition over a period of time. A quick fix pill is a "liberal" solution that covers symptoms but seldom cures the problem. The cure often requires self discipline, a longer term approach, and personal ownership of your own health - that sounds like conservatism to me.
And you call yourself Mind-numbed, why am I not surprised?
Anyone that buys worthless items (supplements)have no one to blame but theirselves.
I use some and I do not want anyone messing with any of them in any way. A responsible person can research items and get a good idea what it will do and won't do.
About a year ago I reduced my chlosterol 102 points in 9 weeks using nothing but natural supplements. My doctor gave me a months supply of Lipitor and when I returned it to him I believe he was pissed off because I didn't take his BAD pills. I think a person must use their head, there are companies that sell junk and there are companies that sell reliable supplements.
Once upon a time, we only had to have seat belts. They said they would never force us to wear them. It was voluntary. Now we have seat belt enforcement zones.
Cute. I tend to remember things that work, not things that don't (/excuses)
Now as to SJW:
Herb ineffective as anti-depressant (4/9/02)
The popular herbal supplement, St John's wort, is an ineffective treatment for depression, a major study has found.
The use of herb has grown massively in recent years as more people opt for so-called natural medicines.
Researchers have conducted the largest ever clinical trial into the impact of the herb on major depression - a moderately severe form of the condition.
The researchers, from Duke University Medical Center in North Carolina, found it had no more impact than a dummy medicine.
That's enough for me.
How would I know? One cannot account for anothers thinking.
You will also be surprised that CAFTA, along with our other trade agreements, are our best antidote to China.
that's too logical for the luddites on this forum!
One thing about Wort though, I've never seen anyone claim it was for major depression.
"I had no idea. I think if that slipped through and people realized that their supplements were not freely available there might be riots in the streets. There are still a few things in America that will light a fire under peoples butts."
Sorry to disagree but the american sheeple didn't even riot when the socialist supreme court ruled on the abolition of private property. You think if the sheeple wont get in a tizzy over their most valuable and fundamental right to property, that they will riot over vitamins?
In regards to CAFTA #2 said; "who cares"Ergo, one can only surmise that you were buying the line of this press release that CAFTA will cut off and/or somehow effect your ability to obtain your life sustaining "supplements".
You responded; "For some of us, supplements are what's keeping us alive."
So I was only trying to BE NICE and point out with some FACTS that CAFTA will not affect you or your pills. Sheesh, I even did the research for you.
BTW, you shouldn't be so snippy so early in the morning. Did you forget to take a pill?
I was addressing one question. You assume too much. (And we all know about ASS-U-ME ing, don't we?)
In many cases, that can't or shouldn't be done without a doctor's help. That assumes everyone has access to one, which isn't true.
And I never advocated outlawing anything, did I? I hate it when people do that.
All of this also assumes perfectly educated people, and that everyone is in total control of their faculties. Even if we miraculously get the former (dream on), we never will have the latter, which is why financial scams against the elderly can work so well. I'm sure you wouldn't advocate total dereg of the insurance industry or of complex financial products.
As to FDA, Walter Williams suggested that in the absence of FDA, a drug-biz equivalent of Underwriters Labs would be created and that would serve as a better screen than the totally risk-averse FDA. This would serve as a great due-diligence starting point for consumers and docs, when available. And I'd be willing to entertain the notion that someone can try to peddle their supplements with the drug-UL equivalent label, so that it people wanted to do the experimental stuff, they could.
I'd be willing to take a chance on gutting the FDA and trying the private-screening idea out. Is that free-market enough for you?
I have broadband :-)
I only have dial-up at this location. BTW, how do you select text from a .pdf file? I used to be able to do it easily . . . .
Oops, meant to say WITHOUT the drug-UL label.
Hello, if you are a fan of vitamins/herbs/supplements, then check out www.beyond-a-century.com. They sell bulk supplements at incredible prices, ie 300 grams of calcium ascorbate ("ester-c") for like $7. You can buy caps and do it yourself, or just mix various powders with crystal light and chug it lol.
There is another highly recommended site that doesnt sell bulk powders, but has cheap prices on capped products, www.iherb.com
I am *NOT* affiliated with either site, just have bought from both for years and have nothing but good things to say about them.