Posted on 07/23/2005 8:44:08 AM PDT by macsmind76
AS THE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS SPIDERWEB OF LIES SPUN BY former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV unravels, the media has gone out of its way to question the credibility of…Karl Rove. Despite Rove’s demonstrable non-leak of Valerie Plame’s non-secret identity, the dogs continue to gather, hungry for a second term scandal, while the Wilsons’ blatant self-promotion erodes whatever basis they had for a story in the first place. Perhaps Joe Wilson’s two biggest whoppers were his claim to have spoken out because of his deep, non-partisan commitment to “truth,” and his inconsolable remorse that his wife’s closely guarded anonymity had become “collateral damage” in the Bush administration’s war against him. What is at risk of being lost in the media hype of Karl Rove’s “leak” is that Plame and Wilson had deep-seated ideological opposition to the Niger trip they set up, Plame apparently spiked that trip in advance, and she had long ago blown her status as a “secret” CIA agent.
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It doesn't have to rise to the level of a "CIA conspiracy". I leave that to Oliver Stone. But I have no doubt that some CIA employees, whether present or former, dislike and distrust the Bush Administration. Some of these showed up yesterday for the Democrats' "hearing". And I have no doubt that one or more of these were probably leaking information to the press. As for the Wilson-Plames, they are both Democrats, and Wilson was working for the Kerry campaign when he wrote his Times article. These people don't have to be "conspiring" to be all working toward the same general goal. In fact, they're not conspiring. They're merely all rowing the same boat.
One thing is very clear, she's not covering up for Karl Rove.
So what pieces of evidence make it clear that Judith Miller is not simpy doing what she thinks she is bound to due by Journalist ethics, and not reveal her source(s)???
And why is it clear that her source isnt Karl Rove?
Did you stray from Dummie Land?
That whole story was a non-story with nothing to back it up. And I wouldn't call mary mapes contacts with the kerry campaign a non-conspiracy LOL!!
I'll just have to read up about it. BTW read your tagline - having a look!
But do you really believe there are so few honest people in the CIA and in the Media..that they would be able to broadcast such a big lie.
And it doesnt irke you that Karl Rove told the public that he was in no way involved at all. And now it turnouts that at minimum he was involved in some way. That doesnt set off your BS alarm? that doesnt make u think there must be something he is trying to cover up?
The fact that Karl Rove signed a legal waver some 18 months ago that gave anyone he spoke with the right to tell the court what his conversations with them were. So she's not setting in jail to protect Karl Rove.
"The fact that Karl Rove signed a legal waver some 18 months ago that gave anyone he spoke with the right to tell the court what his conversations with them were. So she's not setting in jail to protect Karl Rove."
Plus Time and Cooper requested and received a specific waiver from Rove.
I thought that myself about zeeeeeeee...
What's that old saying? Great minds think alike LOL!!
and you know why Time and Cooper requested that specific waiver? because they knew Journalistic ethics didnt consider a general waiver as a legit waiver.
And actually its deeper than that..do you know why rove granted the request, because Cooper basically decided he wasnt going to jail for roves scummy behaviour..and decided to testify even if rove didnt give him the waiver. So rove essentially had no choice.
BTW, while browsing through the website you refer to in your tagline - I saw a song titled: 'Act Like Troll' - suits zeeeee, don't it!
Are you getting your information straight from the "This is your brain on drugs" crowd talking points over at Dummy Land?
Sure seems like it.
"And actually its deeper than that..do you know why rove granted the request, because Cooper basically decided he wasnt going to jail for roves scummy behaviour..and decided to testify even if rove didnt give him the waiver. So rove essentially had no choice."
Which is why Miller could make the same request to Rove if he was her source. Rove would give her specific release also.
calling me a dummy doenst change the facts.
"But do you really believe there are so few honest people in the CIA and in the Media..that they would be able to broadcast such a big lie.
"And it doesnt irke you that Karl Rove told the public that he was in no way involved at all. And now it turnouts that at minimum he was involved in some way. That doesnt set off your BS alarm? that doesnt make u think there must be something he is trying to cover up?"
I would imagine most people currently in the CIA are keeping quiet about this whole thing. Most of the CIA people going after Rove are retired and support the Democrat party.
It does concern me that Rove is reported to have originally told the press secretary he was not involved. Does anybody have any thoughts on that?
Yes it does! LOL!!!
Yea but rove would deny the request, unless Millers lawyer tried to bully Rove, the way Coopers lawyer Bullied Rove.
But Bully your source into giving you a waiver, doenst really qualify as following journalistic ethics.
Plus Miller is doing this as a publicity stundt(is my personal hunch) Shes tryin to earn street Cred with the world of reporters and sources..cause she lost so much street Cred with all the articles she wrote about WMD's in Iraq before the war, that the NY Times had to later apologize for because they were all inaccurate.
"Are you getting your information straight from the "This is your brain on drugs" crowd talking points over at Dummy Land?"
Well if Dummyland is your term for the mainstream media, then the answer is yes.
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