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Andrew Sullivan: Money bleeds Hollywood of its movie magic
The Sunday Times ^ | July 24, 2005 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:31:17 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan

There is only one movie I plan on seeing this summer in a theater, "March of the Penguins."


41 posted on 07/23/2005 6:04:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mrs Mark

What is killing Hollywood is the cost of making films is so great, that they are afraid to fail. So they stick to old formulas and do remakes. People forget Star Wars was originally shunned by the studios because scifi was for a niche market. George Lucas wanted to begin with Episode 1 and make it a epic along the line of many Asian films he saw when he was in Japan. Unfortunately, the studios will fund the project if it starts with Episode 4 because the plot had more action and battles. The sequels were modified to market action figures and etc (Three feet tall Ewoks with stone age weapons can defeat hitech Imperial Stormtroopers - argh!!!). They basically ruined the tone and concept for a good nine film epic.


42 posted on 07/23/2005 6:05:01 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: calex59

"The Ghost and Mrs Muir" is my favorite BW film, "A Wonderful Life" is my second. "Paths of Glory", "The Longest Day", and "Dr Strangelove" are my favorite BW war movies.


43 posted on 07/23/2005 6:09:59 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: advance_copy
Sad thing is I'd rather watch re-runs of The Lawrence Welk show than go watch a HELLywood movie! The Welk show brings back good memories of my childhood, especially the Holiday re-runs!
44 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:42 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: TomGuy
is "The Island" a remake/ripoff/whatever of "Parts: The Clonus Horror"?

Yes, the basic premise is the same. I'm willing to bet that the MST3K version of "Parts" is probably far more entertaining than "The Island," too.

45 posted on 07/23/2005 6:12:35 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

i just saw "Signs" on HBO (again) and enjoyed it immensely for its low-key humor and interesting premises about predestination and religion...


46 posted on 07/23/2005 6:15:54 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: dfwgator; MadIvan
There is only one movie I plan on seeing this summer in a theater, "March of the Penguins."

I'm eargerly anticipating "Serenity" on Sept. 1. It's based on the sci-fi TV series "Firefly".

47 posted on 07/23/2005 6:20:20 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: advance_copy

There is also the boringly predictable political correctness.


48 posted on 07/23/2005 6:22:16 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: MadIvan
But watching Cruise bounce up and down on Oprah’s sofa declaring his new love for a Hollywood starlet was about as interesting as watching him disappear in the movie into what looked like a giant alien posterior. (The latter, at least, got a cheer when I saw it.)

That's Andy Sullivan all right.

49 posted on 07/23/2005 6:23:23 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: MadIvan

"Hollywood is insulting its audience, and they're not willing to pay for it"


That's exactly it...in my case, at least.


50 posted on 07/23/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats." M. Bowers)
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To: Fee

Yeah, I am also a fan of all of those. I just watched "The ghost and Mrs. Muir" several days ago. I have it on tape and periodically will haul it out and watch it:)


51 posted on 07/23/2005 6:27:15 PM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: MadIvan
Intelligent, challenging adult films are no longer the mainstream

Teenagers and young people have taken over. Adults dont go to movies much anymore. Thats the major problem, IMO. If they tail off making movies for teens, theyll sink even faster, unless they can curb overhead. .. Tough business.

52 posted on 07/23/2005 6:27:30 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: MadIvan
Ivan,
You said it all.
53 posted on 07/23/2005 6:29:39 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: SuperDuperConservative
How many FReepers are still paying attention to Andrew?

As a movie fan, I agree with this article. The state of films today is depressing and Sullivan was spot-on with WOTW.

54 posted on 07/23/2005 6:38:59 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: pointsal

Very subtle. I like that. :)


55 posted on 07/23/2005 6:42:53 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Skol Vikings.)
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To: MadIvan

A lot of teenagers I know are starting to watch movies from the 30s and 40s. Their favorites seem to be Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant.


56 posted on 07/23/2005 6:49:42 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: combat_boots
Any future film studios that care to take on Desert Storm or Afghanistan or Iraq or Fallujah are on notice that there is a market out there for this.

Oliver Stone has been signed to direct the first 9/11 movie.

Don't expect an honest movie about anything that's happened post-9/11.

57 posted on 07/23/2005 6:53:58 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: chilepepper; billhilly

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Are you aware that MEL GIBSON's "SIGNS" began filming on the very morning of September 11, 2001... ...and then had to very quickly stop filming when word came of the terrorist attacks..?

"SIGNS" was MEL GIBSON's first Motion Picture since "WE WERE SOLDIERS" ...in which 911 Lifesaving Hero RICK RESCORLA's Battle of IA DRANG NVA/French Bugle was featured. A Bugle I was blessed to hold in my hands just 2 months after 911...

...just for the LOVE of it.

See:

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


For Sacrifice begets Sacrifice...

...just for the LOVE of it.


MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

.


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58 posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: MadIvan

In my view, the Lord of the Rings was a resounding success, and I am capable of watching it again and again. After going through the series, I then went back to the books. With a few ommissions and a few additions, they did an excellent job of actually telling the story AND getting the subplots correct.

It was the best of moviedom, and in our era.

But, there's nothing like it on the horizon.

The best current movies in our era seem to be the filming of classic ACTION OR ROMANCE novels. I'd recommend some more of Fennimore Cooper's.


59 posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: MadIvan

I had a door to door solicitor the other day...offering to sell me some number of tickets at a discount price to the local remodeled theater.

I said no thanks. I do pay per view and or DVD's if I want to see a movie.

He asked if the cost was the issue. I said no, not just cost. It's the combination of the difficult parking, the price of tickets, the price of refreshments, the poor movie quality and sitting in the theater with a bunch of rude people talking through the movie.

He smiled said thank you and walked away without wasting any more of his time.


60 posted on 07/23/2005 7:05:04 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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