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Food Network Reneges on Boy Scout Troop
Citizen Link ^ | 07.22.05 | Aaron Atwood

Posted on 07/23/2005 10:39:02 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: ken5050

I should have clarified. We like to watch the original Iron Chef, not Iron Chef America.


51 posted on 07/24/2005 7:22:27 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Not sure if I have ever seen any of her shows. I did watch some woman's show and it seemed like she had been nipping at the booze during the show. I kept waiting for her to pass out! lol


52 posted on 07/24/2005 7:30:10 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Rastus
I like it, but I wish the Japanese version was all in Japanese with dubbing. It's still kind of fun dubbed, though. I also like Unwrapped. The only beef with Unwrapped was their "holiday" episode, where they managed to get through the entire thing only saying the word "Christmas" once, but they had no problem devoting a segment to Kwanzaa. For the record, the only utterance of the C-word was when talking about candy Christmas trees.

I'm not sure either on why I dislike Emeril, but I dislike the 'BAM!' for one thing.

We watch a lot of the 'Unwrapped' shows, too and we like to watch 'Good Eats'. Alton Brown is a very informative host and can be downright funny sometimes!

53 posted on 07/24/2005 7:34:03 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: angkor
The only E.W. Scripps executive likely to have an axe to grind with the Boy Scouts must be an angry and frustrated pederast.

Seriously, who else would sign-off on such a bizarre temper tantrum?

What I find amazing is how the left and their public relations department, the MSM, gleefully reported the Catholic Church's failure at rooting out homosexual pedofiles within the priesthood, but at the same time, they ream the BSA for taking measures to ensure that the problems the Catholic Church has never actually happen, or at least minimize the damage.

Mark

54 posted on 07/24/2005 7:37:47 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: kcvl
The competition to add a new show to Food Network was just recently won by a couple of gay guys. I guess they don't believe in diversity by including the Boy Scouts.

I watched that competition UP UNTIL they got rid of the two people I liked best. I didn't know who won (I SUSPECTED WHO WON) until your post. My suspicion was right. The competition was a farce to push more gays at us, which is why when the two I liked were eliminated, I stopped watching. I refused to give them any more ratings for their 'gayathon'.

I liked the brunette gal and after she was eliminated, I liked the guy that started out poorly but kept improving. He had an odd name IIRC.

Oh well. :(

55 posted on 07/24/2005 7:42:03 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Coleus

As far as I'm concerned, the Boy Scouts are free to eclude gays and the Food Network is free to exclude Boy Scouts.

FoodTV isn't about controversy, religion or politics. They aren't a political organization, they are a business.

They have done nothing illegal or immoral. As much as I would like to see everyone support Boy Scouts and my political positions, I can see no reason to hold a grudge against FoodTV for their exclusion of Boy Scouts on their network.


56 posted on 07/24/2005 7:46:36 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Coleus

When Actors, producers, directors, etc...are reprimanded for their "beliefs" they cry MCARTHYISM. Isn't this exactly the same thing? Why don't they understand that?


57 posted on 07/24/2005 8:06:12 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: Itzlzha
Chefs" Bobby Flay and Mario Battali...who managed to let their own politics spill into THEIR restaraunts (Pro-Kerry). I

I can't stand Bobby Flay. A johnny-one-note of cooking.
"Tonight I'm making a Boston Cream Pie, first I'm starting with poblamo peppers.."
All he can cook is Southwestern, and arrogant to boot.

I liked Mario though..disappointed.

58 posted on 07/24/2005 8:09:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Rippersnapper
Giada De Laurentiis makes me think impure thoughts...
Who is that?

She's the skinny young woman with the bobblehead that does Italian recipes.

59 posted on 07/24/2005 8:14:25 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The Boy Scouts should start to sue for religious discrimination. We should support them.


60 posted on 07/24/2005 8:16:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: FlJoePa
Yep, that's her!!! the bobblehead babe!!!
She's actually fairly cute...
but I think they must use an odd camera lens or something when shooting her show. You know, something to make it "artisticly" distinctive. IMHO, all it does is slightly blow-up her head so it looks a little too big in proportion to the rest of her bod. The effect is also somewhat magnified the way she piles her hair on top of her head. I bet she's a lot cuter in real life, especially when she let's her hair down.
61 posted on 07/24/2005 8:23:23 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: lentulusgracchus
No, it's part of the press campaign for homosexuals.

Absolutely, and look at the Home and Garden homosexual support. Fine living has shown households where the owners were obviously homosexual men. Other shows are making it plain that the area of home and family are in the spotlight for homosexual normalness.

BTW, it irks me a little when the Scout Oath is used to show an anti homosexual agenda. The term, "morally straight" only means staying on the "straight and narrow". And has nothing to do with homosexuality. Scouts and prospective scoutmasters are asked not to join if there is something that would disqualify them from the Scouting lifestyle. Homosexuality is not specifically mentioned although a sexual predator would clearly not qualify as a role model for the scouts.

The scouting organization led the country in recognizing that homosexual predators do attempt to gain "closeness" with adolescent young boys by joining organizations that work with youth. This anti predator movement has spread to most city and community organizations now, and is not really at issue. The scouts practice the rule of not allowing adult and child pairings of one on one. There must always be additional scouts, or more than one adult.

If a homosexual individual were to join the scouts, and keep his sexuality to himself, he would be more than welcome in the scouts. (This is obviously true because of the occasional Scout who comes out of the closet and admits that he went through the scout program.) The BSA is certainly within their rights by saying that homosexuality is not a valid role model for their programs. If this offends the homosexual supporting communtiy that is too bad. No one has a "right" to go through life not ever being offended by someone or something. Get over it.

62 posted on 07/24/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Coleus; glock rocks; carlo3b; GRRRRR; tubebender; don-o

Thanks for posting this.

FYI


63 posted on 07/24/2005 9:59:45 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: Poser
As far as I'm concerned, the Boy Scouts are free to eclude gays and the Food Network is free to exclude Boy Scouts.

Agreed; but the Scouts catch hell. It is certainly in order to put some heat on the Food Network.

64 posted on 07/24/2005 10:12:36 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: kcvl
The competition to add a new show to Food Network was just recently won by a couple of gay guys....

So, they are queers! I wondered that when happened to catch the very last part of a commerical for FoodTV's latest series. I stopped dead in my track, esp. when the "fluffier" of the two gushed how he just loved that british cooking show "Two Fat Ladies".

65 posted on 07/24/2005 10:12:55 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ChefKeith; Coleus; glock rocks; carlo3b; GRRRRR; tubebender; don-o

Thanks for the ping CK. It just one more "Hey, where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?" moment.


66 posted on 07/24/2005 10:15:25 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: JohnLongIsland
pushing the envelope there are we??

(Well, it's a little funny)

67 posted on 07/24/2005 10:18:41 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Giada De Laurentiis makes me think impure thoughts...

Have you forgotten the FReeper Code of Ethics?

POST the photos, Please!

68 posted on 07/24/2005 10:19:13 AM PDT by mcmuffin (DemocRATs- Rotting from the inside out.)
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To: yankeedame

Oh yeah, the two of them bragged about being a gay couple. They thought it was time to have a gay couple host a cooking show. I didn't even have to watch the show to know who was going to win.

It's the same way on HGTV. About 75% of the "couples" on that network are gay or lesbian. That isn't counting the "designers" who are also on. I just wish they would stick to cooking and decorating and stop the PC crap.


69 posted on 07/24/2005 10:21:24 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Coleus

I like and support the FOOD CHANNEL.

I like and support the BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA.

If I have to give up one one of these two which one would it be.?

Oh Yeah Babe !! Bye Emeril.


70 posted on 07/24/2005 10:25:35 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: monkapotamus
His use of large quantities of garlic, hot sauce, or booze seems to cause the most audience excitement - as if they are shocking or naughty substances. That has grown tiresome.

She should try taping a show in the South. His audience would only be shocked if he *didn't* include garlic, hot sauce, or booze.

71 posted on 07/24/2005 10:27:53 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: KC_for_Freedom
If a homosexual individual were to join the scouts, and keep his sexuality to himself, he would be more than welcome in the scouts.

This was the same type of argument used by gays attempting to get into the RC priesthood. It was the mid 1960's or so and the argument was, "If you [the RCC] demand that straight men become celibate to become priests, why can't homosexuals? Just require them to be celibate too and there's no problem..."

And b/c Vatican II had just been implemented, b/c of the radical social changes of the 1960's, and, IMHO, b/c of an unhealthy degree of moral timidity on the part of the Curia, the RRC caved and began admitting gays to the priesthood...a bad seed that yielded an evil harvest 30 years later.

72 posted on 07/24/2005 10:32:16 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: SamAdams76
I spent 7 years in the Scouting organization growing up and my sons about the same. Never in all those years did religion and other social issues play a major role. Sure, we said a prayer now and then and always pledged allegiance to God and country and stood at attention when the national anthem was played (no more than we already did in school or at your average baseball game). We didn't sit around worrying about who was homosexual or any of that nonsense.

That was my experience in the Boy Scouts as well.

Scouting was all about camping, getting merit badges and doing things for the community. We learned how to properly whittle wood, start a campfire, use a compass, etc., etc. We used to go around Saturday mornings picking up trash in run-down neighborhoods and blazing trails in the nearby woods.

Right. It was about citizenship, teamwork, responsibility, and self-reliance. About boys growing up into good men.

73 posted on 07/24/2005 10:39:57 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: don-o

"It is certainly in order to put some heat on the Food Network."

I disagree. FoodTV is not a political organization and it is unfair to expect them to do anything controversial that could hurt their ratings. They aren't taking sides. They are avoiding controversy.


74 posted on 07/24/2005 10:43:24 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser
Worse, except for Rachel Ray, it's not about instruction either - it's all about entertainment.
75 posted on 07/24/2005 10:50:54 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Poser

Actually, it sounds like the producers at Food Network were in favor of the BSA participation and went to Scripps for what they believed would be a rubber stamp, only to have it rejected there. The focus should be on Scripps, not the Food Network.

Still, can't help but notice on HGTV and such when they show those Sell This House, or Designed to Sell, or what have you that everytime you see the three prospective homebuyers, one is always a lesbian couple.


76 posted on 07/24/2005 10:50:59 AM PDT by Tuxedo (This space for rent.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
The term, "morally straight" only means staying on the "straight and narrow". And has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Sure it does. Being homosexual isn't disqualifying, but living as an active homosexual is another matter. It's the doing that does it. And the problem is that being an active homosexual man carries with it the 20-30% likelihood that one is disposed to cross the line with youth -- the clinical term is "ephebophilia," but it's just the ancient gay slavering over youth and beauty. I've got a coffee-table book someone gave me on Greek civilization, and it's shot through with editorializing in favor of gay values. Every homosexual episode in Greek mythology is represented in that book somewhere. The editor was gay, and he tarted up the book as a big, fat message to educated breeders.

If a homosexual individual were to join the scouts, and keep his sexuality to himself, he would be more than welcome in the scouts. (This is obviously true because of the occasional Scout who comes out of the closet and admits that he went through the scout program.)

Gay campaign orgs are always surfacing these guys. Did you ever wonder why they didn't surface any of them who are doing state time for statutory rape and indecency convictions?

A truly closeted, non-active gay is hard to imagine. Surely such people exist, and I don't think they'd hit any screens; but if someone is out and gay, even if he (at the moment) is celibate, that's a problem. If he's active but closeted, that's still a problem. The BSA's problem is, if they let 1000 of these guys in nationwide, they're going to have 250-300 incidents that they otherwise wouldn't have.

The model for what happens when gay and bisexual men get access to a youth organization is the Nazi SA, the Brown Shirts. Their command staff was 100% gay or bi, and the commander, Ernst Roehm, was an aggressive and brutal predator. Those guys went through the Hitler Youth like the Fire of Rome. They were so bad, that they impaired Hitler's plans to take control of the Wehrmacht: the general staff of the Wehrmacht wasn't having any of Ernst Roehm and his rapists. So Hitler purged the SA, sending the SS to kill the top staffers in the notorious "night of the long knives". That episode doesn't get a lot of ink, but a couple of books have been written in the last 10 years. You can probably find them on Amazon or B&N, if they're not too PC. Try Pink Swastika.

77 posted on 07/24/2005 2:40:13 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I've long had a crush on Alton Brown. He's the only reason that I occassionally watch the channel.


78 posted on 07/24/2005 2:45:47 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: yankeedame; KC_for_Freedom
....RRC caved and began admitting gays to the priesthood...a bad seed that yielded an evil harvest 30 years later.

Actually, there were gay men in the seminaries already, had been for a long time, and they were protecting each other.

Those guys hit my grandfather's radar in the early 50's when he attended his brother's funeral at a big cathedral church in Detroit. His nephew was also in the seminary (he was about 22 at the time), or the old man would have tried to talk him out of it, after what he saw at the post-funeral dinner.

When I was in high school, some guys I'd known at a Catholic school I had attended down the road went off to the seminary. They came back less than a year later, and when people asked, they just said "well, the priestly life just wasn't for me after all." Never did figure out what happened, but in retrospect it sounds like they ran into trouble, or perhaps they got run off by the other seminarians themselves. I don't plan on asking them.

79 posted on 07/24/2005 2:47:34 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: concerned about politics
The Boy Scouts should start to sue for religious discrimination. We should support them.

It's a thought. Discrimination against religionists? Against Levitical religionists? It could be seen as religious factionalism: "reconciling" (gay-friendly) versus "non-reconciling" (straight and moral), something like that.

It's systematic persecution, but it'll have to run for a while in order to establish a pattern and a roster of bad actors, identifying the NGO's and personalities who are pushing it.

80 posted on 07/24/2005 2:59:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: yankeedame

You are right, which is why I did not include scoutmasters in the post. I belive scoutmasters could hide their homosexuality but it would not be good for the scouts or the homosexual lobby. Gays should just drop ever leading youth programs.


81 posted on 07/24/2005 3:20:55 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Right, I agree with your post. No homosexual leadership, every in the scouts. If truely closseted, they could get in, but it would not be a valuable role model, and could lead to molestation incidents. As far as morally straight, I agree with this as well, I was commenting on the common term "straight" as in gay or straight. The scouts did not use this term in their oath because of the modern usage meaning a heterosexual. And yes, the homosexual lifestyle is not on the "straight and narrow", in fact it is dangerous and when cohersion is used it is evil.

Thanks for the expansionary post, I did not know about the homosexuality in the Nazis, but it fits the pattern of homosexuals becoming leaders and authority figures in youth organizations, something we were late in working to prevent.


82 posted on 07/24/2005 3:26:58 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Actually, there were gay men in the seminaries already, had been for a long time, and they were protecting each other.

This is an aspect that should be more widely disseminated. Homosexual behavior is a "bonding" behavior in more ways than one. In my company a group of homosexuals gained leadership roles and worked to promote their buddies. I have no doubt that this "teamwork" is involved in many situations involving homosexuals in the marketplace.

83 posted on 07/24/2005 3:31:35 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Coleus

The heavy set Italian Iron Chef with the beard is a big Democrat.

The Japanese show was far superior anyways.

Just one more example of the perverted "left" not practicing what they preach.


84 posted on 07/24/2005 3:49:24 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Poser

"FoodTV isn't about controversy, religion or politics. They aren't a political organization, they are a business."

Keep in mind FoodTV made a business decision to send out a camera crew to film the Boy Scouts. They would not have made that decision if they didn't think it would be good for ratings. They anticipated their decision being approved. It was Scripps that made a political decision to overturn the decision, which I agree they have every right to do. But fans of the show also have the right to protest that decision, for whatever good it would do.

I think a better approach would be to approach a network like Christian Broadcasting Network and suggest they do a show on these Boy Scouts.


85 posted on 07/25/2005 8:29:24 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Hodar

Didn't know if you'd seen this thread or not.


86 posted on 07/25/2005 9:18:05 PM PDT by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In reply to post 27:
http://www.jandssafeguard.com/fudgepacker.jpg


87 posted on 07/25/2005 10:24:52 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: BookaT

Here's the link to their leadership.... http://www.scripps.com/corporateoverview/index.shtml


88 posted on 07/25/2005 11:20:51 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: hercuroc
I posted my remarks that I sent to Food Network, telling them that I would be doing all that I can to organize and participate in a boycott of all things Food Network, Scripps, and ALL their sponsors.

I just received the following e-mail from John F. Lansing, President, Scripps Networks...

"Thank you for taking the time to contact us and to express your concern. The situation involving the Colorado Springs Boy Scout Troop and Food Network's Iron Chef America promotion is an unfortunate misunderstanding on the part of a front-line producer. Food Network has no programming policy that would prohibit inclusion of the Boys Scouts of America in the stories we tell online or on the air. We are in the process of contacting Mr. Maher, Scoutmaster of Troop 99, to let him know that his submission - one of more than 1,500 we have received - has been selected for taping for use on our website and on Food Network. We apologize for this misunderstanding.

Sincerely,

John F. Lansing

President, Scripps Networks "

YEAH! One for the GOOD GUYS!

BTW, I have already made a new thread with this reply...so more can see the POWER of Free Republic!

89 posted on 07/26/2005 12:09:56 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Coleus
Check out this!
90 posted on 07/26/2005 12:17:54 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Smartaleck

Mario Balto is a flaming lefty, he has a NYC restuarant which the Bush sisters wanted to dine at, Mario would have no part of it.


91 posted on 07/26/2005 12:23:58 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: proudofthesouth

"I've long had a crush on Alton Brown."

Me too! He's funny AND smart - always a winning combination.


92 posted on 07/26/2005 12:28:12 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: DAC21

"Mario Balto is a flaming lefty,"

Besides coming across as a pompous ass who talks down to everyone he was passing out vote kerry crap during the Republican convention in NY and thereafter.


93 posted on 07/26/2005 2:11:36 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: hsalaw

"I've long had a crush on Alton Brown."

I have Alton gaget envy. ;-)

PS Download his French Toast recipe, it's fabulous.


94 posted on 07/26/2005 2:12:49 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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