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To: SamAdams76
It's not that the Scouts have a vendetta against homosexuals, they are just trying to protect their members. Is that such a bad things?

Not at all. But I think the introduction of the argument about family and religious values was deemed necessary by the BSA's attorneys, because of the nature of the attack mounted against BSA by Lambda Legal Defense, the gay lawyering group, in the James Dale case. James Dale was carefully forum-shopped (all these "anti-gay discrimination" cases are) to New Jersey, because New Jersey's state supreme court was known to be very liberal. The BSA basically argued that they were a private, church-affiliated organization (so many of their troops, as you know, are church-sponsored), so that they could validly claim First Amendment protection from Lambda's petition to the State of New Jersey to force "gay-friendly" values on BSA, with a claim that BSA "discriminated" against homosexuals on unsupportable grounds. Don't ask me to explain why protection of the boys from predatory pederasts can't be supported in the law.

All this Scouting backlash by the media is a bunch of nonsense.

No, it's part of the press campaign for homosexuals. They have been actively campaigning on behalf of "gay rights" for over 15 years. In 1994 or so, Jonathan Alter wrote an essay in his magazine -- I think he writes for Newsweek -- in which he listed all the press campaigns that were in progress at the time (antismoking, pro-abortion, etc., etc.), along the way to asking his media fellows to keep the list manageable, lest they lose their focus and their ability to influence the public. Alter's campaign list included the homosexuality campaign.

48 posted on 07/24/2005 5:03:27 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus; Clint N. Suhks; Bryan; scripter; ArGee; RonF
Bump and ping.
49 posted on 07/24/2005 5:05:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
No, it's part of the press campaign for homosexuals.

Absolutely, and look at the Home and Garden homosexual support. Fine living has shown households where the owners were obviously homosexual men. Other shows are making it plain that the area of home and family are in the spotlight for homosexual normalness.

BTW, it irks me a little when the Scout Oath is used to show an anti homosexual agenda. The term, "morally straight" only means staying on the "straight and narrow". And has nothing to do with homosexuality. Scouts and prospective scoutmasters are asked not to join if there is something that would disqualify them from the Scouting lifestyle. Homosexuality is not specifically mentioned although a sexual predator would clearly not qualify as a role model for the scouts.

The scouting organization led the country in recognizing that homosexual predators do attempt to gain "closeness" with adolescent young boys by joining organizations that work with youth. This anti predator movement has spread to most city and community organizations now, and is not really at issue. The scouts practice the rule of not allowing adult and child pairings of one on one. There must always be additional scouts, or more than one adult.

If a homosexual individual were to join the scouts, and keep his sexuality to himself, he would be more than welcome in the scouts. (This is obviously true because of the occasional Scout who comes out of the closet and admits that he went through the scout program.) The BSA is certainly within their rights by saying that homosexuality is not a valid role model for their programs. If this offends the homosexual supporting communtiy that is too bad. No one has a "right" to go through life not ever being offended by someone or something. Get over it.

62 posted on 07/24/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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