Skip to comments.Senior Police Commander On Film – Calls to Beat Disengagement Opponents Without Mercy
Posted on 07/24/2005 9:04:37 AM PDT by Nachum
(IsraelNN.com) Channel 10 TV on Friday night will air its video footage depicting Negev police commander Brigadier-General Miso Shacham. Speaking to the area border police commander, Shacham is recorded instructing his forces to beat anyone who breaks away from the Kfar Maimon group, seeking to enter Gush Katif.
He called for the indiscriminate use of the water cannon, giving him authority to do so without hesitation or approval, as well as telling him to use batons and hit them hard, blows to the lower extremities to teach them a lesson.
The documented footage includes a fair share of vulgarities and explicit instructions to inflict pain on those persons apprehended trying to enter Gush Katif.
Learning of the footage and the Channel 10 program, Shacham explained his statements were made in a closed conversation with a senior officer following a number of days without sleep, expressing remorse for his harsh words.
Israel Police officials have requested the tape from Channel 10 to review the conversation as well as the context in which the remarks were made.
So they can burn the tape.
He can work as commander of the southern border sector of the US, if they fire him over there :)
Not funny, and no we don't need his type on our border.
The Minutemen acomplished the goal with out a single case of violence.
The Minutemen acomplished the goal
I suppose they did, if there only goal was to bring the issue to the fore.
I want all border crossings into the US to be lawful and otherwise on the up&up....and I don't give a rip what any PC feelgooder/bedwetter says in opposition.
The Minutemen accomplished showing my countrymen that the Border Patrol are useless, the politicians are gutless and we who aren't ready to defend ourselves are going to be trampled into the dust and our civilization brought down.
I don't know how you beat someone with mercy.
Oh, I don't know...after all, now everyone knows who "gave the order." What do you think his life will be worth six months from now?
Even Rabin suffered for his actions. You think this guy will be any more secure?
Not even close, and not even funny.
What this guy is ordering is legitimate grounds for good men to advocate his assassination.
Well, I hear what you're saying, but my concern is that if something FIRM (like being fined and fired) isn't done with him, then guess what message that is going to send down the ranks? Why would the average policeman give a care about beating the brains out of one of these folks, if the leadership isn't held accountable?
I do think it ironic that he no longer has plausible deniability for the "accidental" deaths that invariably occur under such ROE.
This guy is SO screwed.
I think your analysis is very insightful.
Unbelievable. And the subordinate is wearing a kippa.
This is what the US wants. US policy seems now to be that if Israel can be made an undemocratic entity such as Egypt and the rest, then all the populations can be controlled.
And it seems to happen the last Bush was in office too...
Perhaps this nascent "Bible Block Party" or whatever they call themselves in Hebrew, has the potential to change the dynamic somewhat.
Israel may not be able to ignore the Bush administration, but the Bush administration can not ignore it's own base.
A unity party like that might be able to draw strength from the influence of the Republican base.
Is Bush's base manifested on Freerepublic?
See the threads related to Israel, the Administration's lies about peaceful Abbas, the on going terrorism during a "cease fire", the creation of a terrorist base in Gaza, et al, and tell me how much interest- or lack thereof- is on those threads.
Yours is precisely the kind of belligerence that alienates Israel's potential allies. You may prefer to piss about slights, but I suggest cultivating friendships would be more advantageous.
Do you think the Bush administration wouldn't prefer to nominate a Supreme Court Justice that would draw no Democrat fire?
Slaughtered Israeli civilians isn't going to make allies. Are you so dull-witted you haven't figured that out yet?
You know the divisions in America as well as anyone. There are plenty of Americans that sleep very soundly at night while thousands of civilians are slaughtered all around the world.
And I can promise you this...screeching at the Americans that have a love for Israel about the ones that don't will get you the assistance of neither.
Do you think Republican Christians don't get those same emails? Newsflash: you got them for being a Republican, not for being a Jew.
Do you think it didn't take four million Evangelicals staying home in 2000, after working for Republican causes for thirty years to finally get the attention, and scare the hell out of, wizards like Rove and convince them they better start delivering on the pro-life agenda?
Did Bush not refuse to deal with Arafat once his duplicity was proven?
What the hell do you think keeps America from holding Israel in the same esteem as Europe does?
What demands are being placed on Israel by the US government? Does she ever bother to explain what they are to her Christian friends? Is there any organized outreach to inform Israel's Christian friends what's being demanded of them in America's name?
I know of exactly one Israeli that will go to speak at Christian Churches about Israel, and the only thing the Israeli on the street can say in the way of encouragement and thanks to him for trying to enlist the help of Christians is accuse him of being a "Jew for Jesus."
There's a big resource for Israel in America, but she's not going to get it by going through the US government.
You call me 'dangerous' and a 'pinhead', but tell me why are you talking this way to a supporter of Israel at a time when a sizable chunk of our population is FINALLY getting the idea our enemies are the same as Israel's enemies?
Oh please. Posting links that dodge the question in a different way is still dodging the question.
You obviously have no problem giving answers to questions you don't understand, but I do.
At face value, it is not in Israel's interest to give the Palestinialns anything but a clock cleaning, so why is it they keep going back to the table with them? Ostensibly because America is putting pressure on them, BUT WHAT KIND OF PRESSURE? Why are the Israelis not telling Washington to go pound sand? What is Washington holding over them that is more important than a sane policy with respect to the Palestinians? And if Washington is practicing international blackmail, why not try to "go around" Washington?
As I said earlier, and I suppose I should type slowly so you can keep up, it's not like the administration wouldn't prefer to nominate a SCOTUS replacement that would sail through the Senate. Many Americans have basicly put the Republicans on notice that they believe those Republicans have been talking out of both sides of their mouths where pro-life issues are concerned.
If they are to take them to task for the same thing on Israel, why is it so hard for you to understand it has to be clearly demonstrated that Washington is indeed talking out of both sides of it's mouth where Israel is concerned? Sure, watching the news makes it seem they are being asked to do things that aren't in their best interest...so why do they keep going along with it?
It's unfortunate you enjoy venting your spleen so much more than exercising a little consideration on exactly what question is being asked, and what suggestions are being made. It would help you avoid asinine responses like your last one.