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Australia: Muslims think US behind September 11
Herald Sun ^ | 07/26/05 | Mark Dunn

Posted on 07/25/2005 12:09:47 PM PDT by Pikamax

Muslims think US behind September 11 Mark Dunn 26jul05

MOST Muslims in Australia believe the United States authorised the September 11 terror attacks, a Melbourne Islamic leader claims.

"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network. Mr Hamza, who leads 250 Muslims at a Coburg mosque, said Sheik Mohammed Omran was not alone in believing the US Government was behind the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington that killed almost 3000 people.

Sheik Omran, a fundamentalist leader at the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jam'ah Association in Brunswick, has been criticised by Prime Minister John Howard for not strongly denouncing terrorism.

Sheik Omran, while saying terrorism was evil, has said the Bush Administration orchestrated the September 11 attacks to give the US licence to invade Islamic countries.

Sheik Omran also believes there is no proof al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has anything to do with terrorism.

Mr Hamza agreed with the conspiracy theory, saying most Australian Muslims also believed the US was to blame.

"There are many Muslims, and I am one of those Muslims, that believe whatever Omran has said is correct.

"The majority of Muslims believe; they believe that even if Muslims have done it they have been given access to do this."

He said the US now had "a licence to go into Islamic countries . . . next it will be Syria, Saudi (Arabia)".

Mr Hamza said he and other Muslims condemned terrorist attacks, even if they were carried out by Muslims.

"(But) I can't believe that Muslims can do this."

He said the Koran forbade the killing of innocent people.

"John Howard said last week the Muslim leaders are not doing enough . . . what we fear is that this could create an atrocity between Muslims and non-Muslims."

Mr Hamza said creating a view that all Muslims supported terror was akin to saying that because one Christian priest was a pedophile then all priests were pedophiles.

Islamic Friendship Association spokesman Keysar Trad denied most Muslims saw a US conspiracy behind the 2001 attacks, but said some were deeply suspicious of involvement.

"Many don't care about the conspiracy theory," Mr Trad said.

"The rest of them say whoever was behind it, if it was bin Laden, he must have been able to buy the support of some traitors within America.

"It could be anyone, it could be the CIA. There is this theory he (bin Laden) has always been working for the Americans and this was just another mission.

"Others say bin Laden has nothing to do with it.

"But for everyone, regardless of those views, no one condones it."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy

1 posted on 07/25/2005 12:09:48 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Cognotive dissonance and living in the land of make believe are two strong Muslim traits!


2 posted on 07/25/2005 12:11:04 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pikamax
>"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network

But only we know
that Bush made Abu Hamza
issue this statement!

3 posted on 07/25/2005 12:12:24 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Pikamax
said Abu Hamza

Thanks for your insight, Boo Boo


4 posted on 07/25/2005 12:13:24 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Pikamax

There is no conspiracy too stupid for Muslims to embrace if the alternative makes Muslims look bad.


5 posted on 07/25/2005 12:14:02 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: Pikamax

Guess they think everyone holds human life as cheaply as they do.


6 posted on 07/25/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Pikamax

REIGION OF PEACE ALERT BUMP. This so-called religion has me increasingly sure that it's more a cult of death than anything else. Oh one more thing...they are all also insane.


7 posted on 07/25/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Pikamax
Abu Hamza??

I know these moos generally have about 9 names that they mix and match, but this wouldn't be THE Abu Hamza? Hook?

8 posted on 07/25/2005 12:15:55 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Rummyfan

My son came home from work yesterday boiling mad. He had an arguement with someone he works with because they blamed Bush for ordering Sept. 11th. I told my son don't bother arguing with these people. If they believe that they are so far gone it's just a waste of breath.


9 posted on 07/25/2005 12:16:37 PM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: Pikamax

Sure... We murdered 3000 of our own citizens in order to make them look bad. Makes perfect sense.


10 posted on 07/25/2005 12:16:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Pikamax

"Mr Hamza said... a view that all Muslims supported terror was akin to saying that because one Christian priest was a pedophile then all priests were pedophiles."

Weeeeelllll....not exactly. A huge amount of muslim spiritual leaders, who are influential in their local communities in the ME and elswhere, continually call for the extermination of Jews, Israel, non-believers, etc, and publicly voice support for terrorists.

Meanwhile, there are zero priests who take the pulpit on Sunday and call for molesting little boys.


11 posted on 07/25/2005 12:17:26 PM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: Pikamax
"But for everyone, regardless of those views, no one condones it."

Obviously not true.

12 posted on 07/25/2005 12:17:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Pikamax

Frankly, I don't give a flying F what the muslims think about ANYTHING! THEY are the face of terrorism and the world's ills as far as I'm concerned.


13 posted on 07/25/2005 12:20:11 PM PDT by Muzzle_em
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To: Pikamax

Wow. Mean, ignorant, AND stupid! They have some future...


14 posted on 07/25/2005 12:21:38 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Pikamax

"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network.

Of course, Hamza forgot to mention that the "they" are the Islamofacists.


15 posted on 07/25/2005 12:24:11 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: hipaatwo

You can't argue rationally and logically with people who believe something so ludicrous.


16 posted on 07/25/2005 12:29:09 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Brilliant
We murdered 3000 of our own citizens in order to make them look bad. Makes perfect sense.

It's true. I read it over at DU.

17 posted on 07/25/2005 12:32:55 PM PDT by OSHA (I've got a hole in my head too, but that's beside the point.)
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To: Brilliant

"We murdered 3000 of our own citizens in order to make them look bad."

It hurts me to say, but several of my "friends" believe a similar story. They think "Boosch" wanted to start a war to take over the middle east for his oil buddies.

They gave me a videotape "proving" that 9-11 was an inside job. It was all George Noory late night woo-woo, but they hate Bush so much it has become their reality.

I used to be able to hold reasonable conversations with these folks but it is rapidly becoming impossible. They are living in an alternate reality tunnel.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 12:33:43 PM PDT by RazzPutin ("You have told us more than you can possibly know." -- Niels Bohr)
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To: Pikamax

Evidence that they don't think.


19 posted on 07/25/2005 12:33:56 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Brilliant

We already had enough provocation from Saddam.
He tried to assasinate Pres. Bush, the elder and shot at our pilots patrolling the no-fly zone.
It doesn't matter a whit to me wether he still had his WMDs.
I know he wanted them.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 12:34:35 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Malsua

Captain Hook is in a British jail. His hooks have been taken from him. "Dirty Harry" is his health attendant.


21 posted on 07/25/2005 12:36:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Pikamax
He said the Koran forbade the killing of innocent people.

Yeah, right...

22 posted on 07/25/2005 12:37:07 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Pikamax
We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network

I believe the psychiatric term for this is "projection".

23 posted on 07/25/2005 12:37:49 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Crap impersonating intellectual discourse is the final fruit of decadence (It's time the Left left!))
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To: RazzPutin

They need to get that crap right out of their heads. We have pictures of the murderers getting on to the planes. We also have identified some of them with residual DNA.
Their main problem is that they do not want to allow Islam to take the responsibility for 3000 murders.
That's OK, we will park that responsibility right on your chest with an M1A1 Abrams. We will notify their mothers and sisters with a Neutron love letter.


24 posted on 07/25/2005 12:39:23 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Pikamax
Sheik Omran, while saying terrorism was evil, has said the Bush Administration orchestrated the September 11 attacks to give the US licence to invade Islamic countries.

Everyone take note: the Muslims only decry terrorism if they think the U.S. did it. Otherwise it's hunky-dory.

25 posted on 07/25/2005 12:39:45 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: Pikamax
"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network.

Good to see that Muslims are just as capable of projection as DUmmies...

26 posted on 07/25/2005 12:40:35 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk
He said the Koran forbade the killing of innocent people.

This turns on the definition of 'innocent people'.

27 posted on 07/25/2005 12:40:45 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Crap impersonating intellectual discourse is the final fruit of decadence (It's time the Left left!))
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To: SMARTY

Even their own lives are just as cheap. If you are dying for Allah any thing goes. On the Christian perspective, Christ died for man, so life is precious.


28 posted on 07/25/2005 12:41:26 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Pikamax
"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world," said Abu Hamza, president of the Islamic Information and Services Network.

My oh my, do I detect a little projection from the purveyors of the Religion Of Pieces?

29 posted on 07/25/2005 12:41:50 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (UR 0wN3D: USSC-2005)
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To: Pikamax

I don't think they believe that at all in their heart of hearts. They may say they believe it but the truth is they are lying scum.


30 posted on 07/25/2005 12:44:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Brilliant

Muslims were born just to perpetuate lies. This is about the only thing that they are good at.


31 posted on 07/25/2005 12:48:15 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: Pikamax

"He said the US now had "a licence to go into Islamic countries . . . next it will be Syria, Saudi (Arabia)". "


What a dumbass. Bush would never invade Saudi Arabia!!


And next will be Iran, not Syria!


32 posted on 07/25/2005 12:56:57 PM PDT by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: Pikamax
"We believe they are willing to sometimes sacrifice their own people for the objective to control the whole world,"

What homicide bombers aren't sacrificing themselves in order to eliminate all infidels?

33 posted on 07/25/2005 1:00:35 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: Pikamax
MOST Muslims in Australia believe the United States authorised the September 11 terror attacks, a Melbourne Islamic leader claims.

MOST Muslims in Australia are idiots, a Melbourne Islamic leader claims.

34 posted on 07/25/2005 1:02:47 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Pikamax
 

 

 
And I used to think only Oliver Stone was an idiot.

 

35 posted on 07/25/2005 1:04:38 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results is the definition of insanity.)
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To: Pikamax
No they don't!

They're just lying!

Again!

36 posted on 07/25/2005 1:06:49 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Pikamax

So let me get this straight.

They shout "Death to America"
They shout "We want to be martyrs"
They shout "The whole world should be under the banner of Islam"

Then a group of like minded thinkers get on planes, hijack them, slam them into buildings full of "infidels" and...THEY CLAIM BUSH DID IT!

They say history is written by the winners.
I wonder what the historical textbooks will say 100 years from now? Will it be "George Bush and his power mad cronies plotted and carried out these attacks while blaming the true faith" or "Islamic fanatics plotted, planned, hijacked and murdered some 3000 people on 9/11/01".



37 posted on 07/25/2005 1:07:02 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: Pikamax

How stupid! Everyone knows this was the Mossad, not the USA don't they? (sarcasm)


38 posted on 07/25/2005 1:09:01 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Would the Professionally Offended just go home and get drunk, or something?"--Tax-chick)
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To: frogjerk

No really... And if you're not mooslim, you're guilty. Kind of wraps the whole psychotica up neatly...


39 posted on 07/25/2005 1:36:58 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Pikamax; hipaatwo
Sheik Omran, while saying terrorism was evil, has said the Bush Administration orchestrated the September 11 attacks to give the US licence to invade Islamic countries.

Apart from the sheer looney notion that Bush is evil enough to do this, it just doesn't make sense.

If he orchestrated the attacks on 9/11, why didn't he also take the next step of planting WMDs in Iraq to prevent any opposition to the war there?

The fact that he didn't should say something about what he's capable of doing.

40 posted on 07/25/2005 2:08:25 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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