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Mel tongue-ties studios;'Apocalypto' to be filmed in obscure Mayan dialect (MEL GIBSON ALERT)
VARIETY ^ | July 25, 2005, | MICHAEL FLEMING

Posted on 07/25/2005 5:20:32 PM PDT by Liz

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To: Dante3

Victor Hugo remains a towering figure in literature; Ninety-Three was his last novel, I believe.


51 posted on 07/26/2005 3:25:08 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: xp38

I believe you're correct about the Mayan extinction before the Spanish came. It'll definitely be interesting to watch what he'll do with that.


52 posted on 07/26/2005 5:20:34 AM PDT by Textide
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To: xp38; Textide

Nope. The Mayans were still around - ARE still around! From the wikipedia:

The Itza Maya, Kowoj and Yalain groups of Central Peten survived the "Classic Period Collapse" in small numbers and by 1250 CE reconstituted themselves to form competing polities. The Itza kingdom had its capital at Noj Peten, an archaeological site thought to underlay modern day Flores, Guatemala. It ruled over a polity extending across the Peten Lakes region, encompassing the community of Eckixil on Lake Quexil. These sites and this region were inhabited continuously by independent Maya until after the final Spanish Conquest of 1697 CE.

Post-Classic Maya states also continued to thrive in the southern highlands. One of the Maya kingdoms in this area, the Quiché, is responsible for the best-known Mayan work of historiography and mythology, the Popol Vuh.

The Spanish started their conquest of the Maya lands in the 1520s. Some Maya states offered long fierce resistance; the last Maya state, the Itza kingdom, was not subdued by Spanish authorities until 1697.

The Itza Maya, Kowoj and Yalain groups of Central Peten survived the "Classic Period Collapse" in small numbers and by 1250 CE reconstituted themselves to form competing polities. The Itza kingdom had its capital at Noj Peten, an archaeological site thought to underlay modern day Flores, Guatemala. It ruled over a polity extending across the Peten Lakes region, encompassing the community of Eckixil on Lake Quexil. These sites and this region were inhabited continuously by independent Maya until after the final Spanish Conquest of 1697 CE.

Post-Classic Maya states also continued to thrive in the southern highlands. One of the Maya kingdoms in this area, the Quiché, is responsible for the best-known Mayan work of historiography and mythology, the Popol Vuh.

The Spanish started their conquest of the Maya lands in the 1520s. Some Maya states offered long fierce resistance; the last Maya state, the Itza kingdom, was not subdued by Spanish authorities until 1697.


53 posted on 07/26/2005 5:34:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray
Those Mayans had some great recipes!

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54 posted on 07/26/2005 5:45:45 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Maybe. At least they weren't cooking their neighbors, like the Aztecs... I think.


55 posted on 07/26/2005 6:04:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Phsstpok

I'd be about 75% sure this has some sort of religious overtone, and not a movie against illegal immigration/multi-culti, etc.


56 posted on 07/26/2005 8:58:25 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: xp38

An apocalyptic epic with religious overtones sounds right up his alley.


57 posted on 07/26/2005 9:00:44 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
December 21st, 2012 AD. Mark it on your non-Mayan calendar!! Actually I don't buy into the prophesies of 3rd world primitives who were into human sacrifice, though not nearly as much as the Aztecs. Maybe a very bad day and maybe it won't be. But it makes for good reading.
58 posted on 07/26/2005 9:01:28 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Cecily
Now that would be cool!
59 posted on 07/26/2005 9:03:45 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Little Ray
Nope. The Mayans were still around

And illegally immigrating to the United States from Mexico and Central America. Some are full bloods and some are part Mayan blood - Mestizo. The revenge of the Indian race who we warred against as America grew great

60 posted on 07/26/2005 9:04:17 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin


Your husband will like "Decipher"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312280750/002-8906041-6016818?v=glance


61 posted on 07/26/2005 9:07:42 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Liz

Wow! Go, Mel!!


62 posted on 07/26/2005 9:08:07 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (They killed Terri - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: Alouette
The old Leslie Nielsson movie "Airplane" had a scene in Ebonics, with English subtitles.

Actually, that scene was spoken in 70s era jive, which is totally different than today's Ebonics.

63 posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:31 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: LibertarianInExile

That post needed some subtitles.


64 posted on 07/26/2005 9:13:08 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Liz

I don't see this as being anywhere near as successful a film as "Passion."


65 posted on 07/26/2005 9:17:31 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Little Ray
I've been to Mass spoken in Quiche which is one of the remaining Mayan dialects. Also been to some of the Mayan ruins.If this movie is about the rise or fall of the Mayan civilization or even the Spanish conquest of the Mayan people I would be very interested in it.
66 posted on 07/26/2005 9:45:52 AM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: MEGoody

Mel's worldwide audience for the mega-successful Passion consisted of billions of Christians all over the globe.


67 posted on 07/26/2005 9:47:24 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Sounds fascinating to me. It's amazing how we all agree that hollywood sucks, but the second somebody starts a film that is not something that has been done 5 times over everyone predicts failure.

There is going to be an actual, orginal, stimulating movie made here. I can't wait.

68 posted on 07/26/2005 9:58:20 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Liz
there's no guarantee of an encore turnout of the church groups and hardcore Catholics who made "The Passion of the Christ" a nearly $1 billion box office/DVD bonanza.

You don't make a billion dollars selling to church groups and hardcore catholics. You make a billion by making a movie that doesn't treat the audience with contempt, and actually treats them as if they have more than half a brain. Putting Monica Belucci in it doesn't hurt either.

69 posted on 07/26/2005 10:05:36 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Casloy

Monica ..... in another film, of course.

70 posted on 07/26/2005 10:14:31 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: dennisw

From "Decipher:"

"From this point, the plot machinations are revved into overdrive with all the subtlety of an avalanche. Solar flares, Atlantis, ancient Mayan prophecies, the Book of Revelations, and unexplained worldwide cataclysms are tossed into the mix, creating enough fringe ideas to make an Art Bell radio show listener drool."

Oh, Brother! That would be right up his alley, LOL! :)


71 posted on 07/26/2005 10:19:31 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Liz
Mel's worldwide audience for the mega-successful Passion consisted of billions of Christians all over the globe.

Absolutely. I don't see them turning out for this film.

72 posted on 07/26/2005 10:41:46 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Maybe, maybe not....Mel sure knows who his audience is, and he won't want to diappoint. So let's wait and see.


73 posted on 07/26/2005 11:07:28 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: nomorelurker

Spanish conquest of the Maya kingdoms was finished about 1697 - after the "500 year ago" period mentioned. However, the Maya had an interesting civil war about then... Or was it the Inca?
Keep forgettin' that stuff. Oh, well. Memory is the second thing that goes, and I forget the first.


74 posted on 07/26/2005 11:10:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Claud

See post 16...


75 posted on 07/26/2005 11:16:59 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: xp38
I thought the Mayan civilization died off long before the Spanish arrived. Perhaps this is about that mysterious extinction of their culture.

That's true of monumental high-Mayan culture, but there are still lots of ethnic Mayans around today.
76 posted on 07/26/2005 11:20:25 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: dennisw
Actually I don't buy into the prophesies of 3rd world primitives who were into human sacrifice, though not nearly as much as the Aztecs.

Didn't they have a prophecy that a great white God would come to them from the East?
77 posted on 07/26/2005 11:22:30 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Liz
So let's wait and see.

I won't be interested, and I doubt my hubby will be either.

78 posted on 07/26/2005 11:43:48 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Liz
Yes, "Ninety-three" was Hugo's last novel. He started it when he was over seventy years old. I can see Mel Gibson starring as Lantenac.
79 posted on 07/26/2005 12:55:57 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: webstersII

It might be clearer what the dialogue is if you remember two things:

1) Leo Getz (Joe Pesci) said it--about a drive thru
2) Using the 'f' word on FR is normally not something that's done.


80 posted on 07/26/2005 2:07:59 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, and Roe all have to go. Will Roberts get us there--don't know. No more Souters.)
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To: Antoninus

Many ethnic Mayans im Mexico/Central America. They immigrate here. I see Hispanics with very Indian features all the time here in Broward County. Aztec, Mayan etc etc


81 posted on 07/27/2005 5:21:45 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Sheeit, dis mofo' gits all da bling-bling...


82 posted on 07/27/2005 5:28:17 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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