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Fast moving fire destroys would-be Muslim center (Paterson, NJ)
NorthJersey.com ^ | Eman Varoqa

Posted on 07/25/2005 5:30:59 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

PATERSON - It was to be a Muslim youth center, a place for people to meet and mingle, but after a fire ravaged the building Sunday, it was nothing more than a toppled pile of charred bricks.

A fast-moving blaze broke out around 4 p.m. and within 30 minutes had destroyed the historic warehouse at West Railway and Genessee avenues. The outer walls did not buckle under pressure, but everything inside succumbed. Three stories collapsed into one, and the wooden interiors fed the fire's fury even more.

The Islamic Center of Passaic County purchased the abandoned warehouse in June 2003 for $1.25 million - money raised entirely from local donations. Community members wanted to build a place for their children to spend time after school and on weekends.

Tucked away inside South Paterson, across the street from the city's outdoor produce market, the youth center would have been in the heart of North Jersey's Muslim community. Nearly 25,000 Muslims live in a four-mile radius.

But since there was nothing inside the building, and no utilities hooked up, some were left wondering if this was arson. The building's windows were nailed shut with boards, and the doors locked. A wooden 8-foot-tall fence used to hug the perimeter.

"It's very suspicious," said Sohail Mohammed, a community member. "Things are pointing in that direction. I hope not, but I'm afraid that it is."

Others on the scene said this could be a backlash because of deadly bombings in London this month, believed to be set off by Islamic extremists. Many said they would reserve judgment until an investigation was concluded.

Crews from Paterson, Clifton, and other surrounding towns got the fire under control. No one was injured. Arson specialists from the Passaic County Prosecutor's Office and Paterson Police Department were examining the scene Sunday evening.

"The fire was very fast and intense," said Paterson Councilman Aslon Goow, a member of the public safety committee. "Within five minutes everything caved in. It burned entirely from one end to the other."

Members of the Islamic Center of Passaic County planned to meet Sunday night and discuss the next steps: clearing debris and moving forward.

"It's a tragic day," said Nabil Abbassi, head of the development committee. "But we are resolved to continue in this project."


TOPICS: US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: islamiccenter; mosque; mosquewatch; muslimamericans; passaiccountymosque
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1 posted on 07/25/2005 5:30:59 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

hmm...what exactly did these jersy muslims do on 9/11 again? i can't seem to remember. I know it was something we all saw on TV..


2 posted on 07/25/2005 5:34:07 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Allah FUBAR!


3 posted on 07/25/2005 5:34:16 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Oh no... such a tragedy for the Religion of Peace...


4 posted on 07/25/2005 5:34:37 PM PDT by konaice
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

It is very suspicious. How much was it insured for, and what is that money going to buy? What better way to raise money for ISLAM in America.


5 posted on 07/25/2005 5:34:48 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Golly gee, ain't that a cryin' shame?

(Laughter suppressed only with the greatest effort!)

6 posted on 07/25/2005 5:35:17 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Ain't that a shame.


7 posted on 07/25/2005 5:35:24 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
It was to be a Muslim youth center, a place for people to plot and train

Fixed the quote, glad to be of service!
8 posted on 07/25/2005 5:35:48 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

They rule out terrorism?


9 posted on 07/25/2005 5:37:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Geez...now where are these little guys supposed to get their training?


10 posted on 07/25/2005 5:37:53 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: DefiantZERO

On the other hand, how could you tell the difference between the wrecked Muslim center and other parts of Paterson? That's one poor town.


11 posted on 07/25/2005 5:37:54 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

they burned it themselves - having an issue that they can use to blame on "anti-islamic americans" is important to them, more important then a fire in an empty building.


12 posted on 07/25/2005 5:38:18 PM PDT by oceanview
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"purchased June 2003"
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Two years go by . . .

Burned one week before they were to discuss the "next step".

This is insurance fraud, and the money is going to islamic extremists.
13 posted on 07/25/2005 5:38:34 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
It was to be a Muslim youth center...it was nothing more than a toppled pile of charred bricks.


no different than any other building after a visit from the "practitioners of the religion of peace"
14 posted on 07/25/2005 5:39:29 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

They're not looking at "hate crime." They're looking at "insurance fraud."


15 posted on 07/25/2005 5:39:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The Islamic Center of Passaic County purchased the abandoned warehouse in June 2003 for $1.25 million - money raised entirely from local donations.

Speaks volumes about Passaic County, if true.

16 posted on 07/25/2005 5:40:46 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

The cause of the fire was determined to be a lightning bolt from out of a clear blue sky.


17 posted on 07/25/2005 5:41:03 PM PDT by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: CindyDawg
They rule out terrorism?

Trainning session gone bac?

18 posted on 07/25/2005 5:41:03 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

bac=bad


19 posted on 07/25/2005 5:41:29 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 07/25/2005 5:43:01 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: Leapfrog

LMAO...

That just about sums up what I thought I'd see on this thread.

I thought this would get ugly quick.


21 posted on 07/25/2005 5:43:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Within five minutes everything caved in. It burned entirely from one end to the other

I'm no detective, but that smells like accelerant.

Still, five minutes is slow compared to the work of their jihadi soulmates.

Imagine the surprise of a bomber's victim as their body disintegrates in milliseconds...

22 posted on 07/25/2005 5:43:28 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

In my best Jerry Seinfeld voice: "Now, that's a shame".


23 posted on 07/25/2005 5:44:03 PM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: Billthedrill

Islamic lightning bolt must have struck. We see -----(name your cult) lightning all the time around here.


24 posted on 07/25/2005 5:45:01 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Modernist American Art in the West)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"It was to be a Muslim youth center, a place for people to meet and mingle,"

And to prepare them for Jihad, but it aint no more.


25 posted on 07/25/2005 5:45:51 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"The fire was very fast and intense," said Paterson Councilman Aslon Goow, a member of the public safety committee. "Within five minutes everything caved in. It burned entirely from one end to the other."

Were they stockpiling dangerous materials inside, perchance?

26 posted on 07/25/2005 5:47:06 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Leapfrog

"Allah FUBAR!"

I know the what allah akbar means, but what does allah fubar mean?


27 posted on 07/25/2005 5:47:34 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I bet they had a bad electrical system...those shorts 'll kill ya.


28 posted on 07/25/2005 5:47:41 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: Born to Conserve

They couldnt afford to hook up the lectricity. SCAM!!!


29 posted on 07/25/2005 5:47:59 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Just for the record:  I was no where near Paterson, NJ at the time of this incident.
30 posted on 07/25/2005 5:48:02 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
It was to be a Muslim youth center, a place for people to meet and mingle

and plan murder and mayhem,good riddance

31 posted on 07/25/2005 5:48:48 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: TAquinas

I think it means "Allah [messed] you up."


32 posted on 07/25/2005 5:49:21 PM PDT by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud?)
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To: softwarecreator
Just for the record: I was no where near Paterson, NJ at the time of this incident.

But where was Bush?

33 posted on 07/25/2005 5:49:40 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Modernist American Art in the West)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
and in local news from July 15th:
"Flames broke out at the Islamic Society of Greater Harrisburg around 4:30 yesterday afternoon. Fire crews say thick, black smoke was pouring out of the building everyone got out safely.

Steelton's mayor says the fire could've been caused by a fuel spill. He says the Islamic Center hasn't been inspected in about five years, because of difficulties getting inside."

Hmmm...another "fundraiser"?

34 posted on 07/25/2005 5:49:46 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Deprogramming the left, one truth at a time.)
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To: RichInOC

Thanks.

May I plagiarize it and use it myself?


36 posted on 07/25/2005 5:51:12 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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"The fire was very fast and intense," said Paterson Councilman Aslon Goow, a member of the public safety committee. "Within five minutes everything caved in. It burned entirely from one end to the other."

That is what happens to heart pine floors,beams and columns
that have been soaked in oil for 50 years.

Consider a building made from pine rosin and you get the
idea.
It could have certainly been torched, but by WHOM?


37 posted on 07/25/2005 5:51:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Get that crap. The place was supposed to be a muslim youth center. Just what we need a place where future homicide bombers can be recruited and trained.


38 posted on 07/25/2005 5:51:53 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: Utah Binger
But where was Bush?

Forget Bush, where was Karl Rove??

39 posted on 07/25/2005 5:52:36 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: TAquinas
Link.
40 posted on 07/25/2005 5:52:41 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: TAquinas

By all means.


41 posted on 07/25/2005 5:52:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (...I'm a baaaaaad boy.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Oops.


42 posted on 07/25/2005 5:53:14 PM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
No comment.

Here's a comment--BOO F'NG HOO!!!

43 posted on 07/25/2005 5:53:16 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: softwarecreator

Damn, I'm just not thinking clearly enough. This Utah beer takes a few. Besides Rove is a Utah boy.


44 posted on 07/25/2005 5:54:24 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Modernist American Art in the West)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's very suspicious," said Sohail Mohammed, a community member. "Things are pointing in that direction. I hope not, but I'm afraid that it is."

You know, you play around amking bombs in a building and occasionally once goes off.

45 posted on 07/25/2005 5:54:29 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Born to Conserve

Yes, it is very SUSPICIOUS, for the reasons that you suggest on their part. After all, they are pretty darned good at bombing and setting fires.


46 posted on 07/25/2005 5:54:33 PM PDT by Muzzle_em
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To: puppypusher

Hey, Muslim kids need a place to hang out and just be kids ... they just seem to blow up so fast these days.


47 posted on 07/25/2005 5:54:48 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Hmm. Seems it contained highly flammable materials.


48 posted on 07/25/2005 5:54:55 PM PDT by airborne
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To: tomkat

My thoughts as well.
Amazing what a few gallons of diesel can do.


49 posted on 07/25/2005 5:56:18 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
of deadly bombings in London this month, believed to be set off by Islamic extremists.

The agenda drives on, the media undeterred by those strange, annoying things called facts.


believed to be?-Yeah, right. Maybe it was those dangerous nuns.
They have been bombing local train stations lately

50 posted on 07/25/2005 5:59:07 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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