Skip to comments.Four Boy Scout Leaders Killed in Electrical Accident at Jamboree Opening in Virginia
Posted on 07/25/2005 6:18:31 PM PDT by SandRat
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You reference your posts #30&45. It seems as though myself and several other posters her are simply telling you that they disagree with your suggestion to either cancel the jamboree or to cancel GW's address to the scouts. As for GW seeming insensitive, who would he be insensitive to? ACLU, NAMBLA, liberals? Horse pucky. Among other things, scouting is designed to teach kids to accept responsibility, to be self sufficient, to be motivated and a leader.
The ONLY basis for cancelling or sending those troops affected homewould be if the mass consensus of the adult scout leaders determined it would be in the best interest of the scouts to do so.
Sorry, but your previous statements really don't sound like statements I'd be expecting to hear from a retired Army Chaplain.
A sorrowful bump for you, Kathy in Alaska. What a beautiful post you created. :)
Thank you for that, SandRat. I'm going to print that off and keep it, and share it with others. Beautiful!
The Duke did have a way of putting out there.
Thank you again for your posts. It is through you that I learned that the victims of this horrible accident were troop leaders from our own state, Alaska. I had just gotten off the phone with our son who lives in Anchorage, and we had been talking about this horrible tragedy. He must not have heard yet either that they were Alaskans. Sad no matter where they were from, but this sure hits close to home.
God bless their families, friends and fellow Scouts. sob
That was long ago and in SE Asia and they caught the dickens for it.
I'm with you, x.
Sadly, the "proper thing" gets harder to find every day.
Waiting for the 10pm news. I'll post if they know anything new.
News report that all leaders are believed to be from Anchorage. The one name released, Mike Schibe, had his 15 year old twins with him. They will catch the first flight home. Lots of scouts watching the tent going up...a pole contacted the overhead power lines. Several power stations knocked out. Chaplains provided for all. TRAGIC accident. God be with all the scouts, youth and adult.
Picture of the tent and overhead wires via the "Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star"
Photo by Rebecca Sell, The Free Lance-Star
I believe you just might be the only one here to agree with me. :>)
See #30 & 45
As an Army Chaplain I can speak to you of training exercises canceled because of deaths.
However, I think I've been clear enough about my reasons. I stand by them. Respect for life, proper mourning, and in the President's case, putting him in a difficult position.
Prayers for the men and for their families. How sad.
>>As an Army Chaplain
... you have your head right up there.
If you had counseled that to my units, you would have been 'short-sheeted' real quick, to use a BSA term, and you know it.
The only way to show respect to these guys is with a salute and a carry on. I've never known, in 40 years, of an Army guy, or a BSA, who would have asked for more. Or for less.
As much as I respect you on this site, I cannot believe your so full of it on this topic.
I can cite occasions when the same was done on training exercises. Deaths brought them to a grinding halt.
You know I'm correct.
I believe it would have a negative impact on the scouts if they went home early . . . more than if they stayed.
Also, see #30 & 45
See #30 & 45.
However, I see nothing wrong with teaching the boys a lesson about the value of life. In any case, one other reader suggested that the returnees be limited only to those groups that were immediately affected or had relationships with the deceased men.
I could agree with that. In fact, there's no way that those groups should remain.
Training is not supposed to kill people. What do you call it after a fun event has people killed....an "almost" fun event???
Training exercises are training exercises. You don't send 4 divisions home, then, do you?
You are a fraud, sonny. Skip your way back to safety.