Skip to comments.Home Schools Run By Well-Meaning Amateurs (Barf alert!)
Posted on 07/25/2005 7:26:05 PM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle
Schools With Good Teachers Are Best-Suited to Shape Young Minds By Dave Arnold
There's nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Certain jobs are best left to the pros, such as, formal education.
There are few homeowners who can tackle every aspect of home repair. A few of us might know carpentry, plumbing and, lets say, cementing. Others may know about electrical work, tiling and roofing. But hardly anyone can do it all.
Same goes for cars. Not many people have the skills and knowledge to perform all repairs on the family car. Even if they do, they probably dont own the proper tools. Heck, some people have their hands full just knowing how to drive.
So, why would some parents assume they know enough about every academic subject to home-school their children? You would think that they might leave this -- the shaping of their childrens minds, careers, and futures -- to trained professionals. That is, to those who have worked steadily at their profession for 10, 20, 30 years! Teachers!
Theres nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Whether it is window-washing, bricklaying or designing a space station. Certain jobs are best left to the pros. Formal education is one of those jobs.
Of course there are circumstances that might make it necessary for parents to teach their children at home. For example, if the child is severely handicapped and cannot be transported safely to a school, or is bedridden with a serious disease, or lives in such a remote area that attending a public school is near impossible.
The number of parents who could easily send their children to public school but opt for home-schooling instead is on the increase. Several organizations have popped up on the Web to serve these wannabe teachers. These organizations are even running ads on prime time television. After viewing one advertisement, I searched a home school Web site. This site contains some statements that REALLY irritate me!
* Its not as difficult as it looks.
The it is meant to be teaching. Lets face it, teaching children is difficult even for experienced professionals. Wannabes have no idea.
* What about socialization? Forget about it!
Forget about interacting with others? Are they nuts? Socialization is an important component of getting along in life. You cannot teach it. Children should have the opportunity to interact with others their own age. Without allowing their children to mingle, trade ideas and thoughts with others, these parents are creating social misfits.
If this Web site encouraged home-schooled children to join after-school clubs at the local school, or participate in sports or other community activities, then I might feel different. Maine state laws, for example, require local school districts to allow home-schooled students to participate in their athletic programs. For this Web site to declare, forget about it, is bad advice.
When I worked for Wal-Mart more than 20 years ago, Sam Walton once told me: I can teach Wal-Mart associates how to use a computer, calculator, and how to operate like retailers. But I cant teach them how to be a teammate when they have never been part of any team.
* Visit our online bookstore.
Buying a history, science or math book does not mean an adult can automatically instruct others about the books content.
Another Web site asks for donations and posts newspaper articles pertaining to problems occurring in public schools.
Its obvious to me that these organizations are in it for the money. They are involved in the education of children mostly in the hope of profiting at the hands of well-meaning but gullible parents.
This includes parents who home-school their children for reasons that may be linked to religious convictions. One Web site that I visited stated that the best way to combat our nations ungodly public schools was to remove students from them and teach them at home or at a Christian school.
Im certainly not opposed to religious schools, or to anyone standing up for what they believe in. I admire anyone who has the strength to stand up against the majority. But in this case, pulling children out of a school is not the best way to fight the laws that govern our education system. No battle has ever been won by retreating!
Dont most parents have a tough enough job teaching their children social, disciplinary and behavioral skills? They would be wise to help their children and themselves by leaving the responsibility of teaching math, science, art, writing, history, geography and other subjects to those who are knowledgeable, trained and motivated to do the best job possible.
(Dave Arnold, a member of the Illinois Education Association, is head custodian at Brownstown Elementary School in Southern Illinois.)
The views expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of the NEA or its affiliates.
Poor Dave, I guess having those well meaning parents turn out better educated children must be a real blow to him.
Nobody can teach perversion like the professionals
At least the libs are frank about what education means to them.
"Schools With Good Teachers Are Best-Suited to Shape Young Minds By Dave Arnold"
Well, that's nice.
HOMESCHOOL -- IT'S THE BEST OPTION.
Well meaning amatures beat Politically Correct Agendaed Incompetents any day of the week.
If the N.E.A. has reached the point where they can no longer ignore home schooling then there are BIG problems at the N.E.A.
The fact that had to coment on home schooling has just legitimized the home schooling as EQUAL footing as paid teachers.
In a related story the Kansas City Royals say they are a better baseball team than the St Louis Cardinals. LOL!
Cementing? Like gluing things together?
I assume this idiot meant masonry work. Leave it to the NEA to make teachers look stupid.
As opposed to public schools which are run by amateurs who aren't well-meaning? Amateur educators, that is, but professional propogandists and political hacks . . .
Okay, if he can use examples, so can I. Publik Edjikashun is like hiring a roofer to do a job, only to have them walk out on you.
You can't make this stuff up!
After Dave lectures us all about how we are not qualified to to educate our own children, it turns out Dave is a elementary school custodian.
Sounds like Dave is looking for a raise and/or promotion.
By the time you start home schooling a five year old you have had 6 years plus your age of experience and education. No matter how good a "teacher" is they can not care like a biological teacher can. It's a job.
I dunno about Illinois, but down here the "head custodian" is the janitor-in-charge....
I missed the sarcasm tag.
A janitor proposes to lecture me on whether or not my child should be taught by me?
A jamitor says that I am not capable of teaching my child?
Blow it out yer broom, bud, and, oh yeah, some kid just barfed in the hall.
Could ya get that, huh?
Where do I start with that condescending, sanctimonious bunch of tripe? The homeschooled children I know are far, far, better educated than 90% of the government educated kids. And the social? Getting teased, taunted, or even shot at in some cases? Yeah boy, some great social there. Give me a break.
One of the things that FR has convinced me of is the importance, effectiveness, and URGENCY of Home Schooling.
IIRC, the last bazillion winners of the National Spelling Bee have been home schooled.
Many generations ago, teaching was a position of pride. Now it is the refuge of those who can do no other work (this is a broad statement based on obesrvation -- I am sure there are at least some true teachers out there. But they are in the minority).
Yes, the National "Edukashun: Association is scared of the burgeoning home-schooling phenomenon. More and more states are accepting and accommodating this, legally. More and more, the standard tests, the special contests (Spelling Bees, etc.), and college admissions, have home-schoolers beating public school students.
The NEA FEARS competition, because the public schools fail in comparison.
The nea is a bunch of morons.
The most common name of social studies teachers is "coach"!
THey get handed a book and THAT IS ALL THE TRAINING they get. They just follow the book with indifference.
Perhaps the nea should talk to real teachers not union HACKS!
So the public schools want to make sure the students are qualified to work at Wal-Mart...nice to know. Working independently gives students the opportunity to figure things out on their own and makes it so that they don't as easily succumb to peer pressure. Also, homeschooled kids find out a lot of information on their own and have the chance to work with things that interest them. These skills make a person more likely to be able to problem solve. How many adults do we all know who don't have the gumption to find out information for themselves - but rather just take someone else's word for it? How many want to start a business but can't figure out how to get started?
The fact the nea had to give a "response" due to the success of homeschooling, just legitimized all homeschooling.
I thought this was a satire given how horribly argued it was.
That condescending attitude is what inhabits the minds of 99.999% of public school teachers in the United States.
They simply cannot fathom that anyone could do as good a job as they. They love the idea of a monopoly and aren't about to let go of that model for education in the U.S.
Lets see how good of a job our nations highly-trained professional educators are doing.
Below Basic 57%
At or above Basic 43%
At or above Proficient 11%
Below Basic 26%
At or above Basic 74%
At or above Proficient 36%
Below Basic 26%
At or above Basic 74%
At or above Proficient 24%
Below Basic 29%
At or above Basic 71%
At or above Proficient 25%
Below Basic 36%
At or above Basic 64%
At or above Proficient 16%
average SAT scores for people in various professions. Heres are some verbal/math samples:
Visual/Performing Artist 520/497
Military Science 503/505
Communications (marketing, PR, etc.) 527/497
Public School Teacher 487/477
Meanwhile, homeschooled students consistently score, on average, 35 points higher on the SAT than their public school counterparts (and usually at a younger age as well).
I just laughed at the whole "socialization" myth.
This children need socialization training is a pc crap made to pacify the guilt of career women who decided to raise their children by proxy.
I just had to laugh at this one. My kids go to public school, and I've liked their teachers. I have problems with our school district, but that's another topic.
Anyway, what makes me laugh is that an education degree is one of the easiest degrees in college.
I would think that just about anyone with a college degree would be educated enough to teach their kids.
I have a degree in engineering. I have had more science and math than my kids' teachers. My kids have learned more about math from me than from their teachers.
The only areas that I don't feel qualified are for my daughter with special needs. She gets speech therapy and sees a reading specialist. She also used to see an occupational therapist. They all have master's degrees, and lots of experience with special needs kids. They've done wonders for my daughter.
However, most kids don't need special help, and I think a well-educated parent could easily teach their children.
The professionals in the education industry have done an absolutely awful job and whine constantly about getting more money and more priveleges. Screw 'em.
most social studies teachers in the USA are called "coach" with no training at all.
Ping for Homeschool List!
Move along - no story here (unionized educational aristocracy criticizing a grass-roots built national movement to abandon the socialized and failing educational system).
Do you have a source for those statistics?
We'uns poor igrant wel meening souls done the bist we culd without the hep of youse smart folk. I gis mi little gril culda done better if'n me and her ma wulda let yall edicate her.
But sinse we waz willin to settle fer a cul colliege sharlship at 16 and bakpakin thru asia at 17, our litle gril will jus hafta git by the bist she can in life. Im sorry me and the litle woman didnt listin to you none.
Oh, and BTW Dave, since the average SAT score of education majors is a little over 900, and my poor, dumb HS kid scored 1325 when she was 15, I guess we'll just have to live with our failure as teachers. MORON (head custodian judging me???)
More of the sad life of a HS loser here:
Dear Mr. Head Custodian,
Our home educated son (age 26) is a lawyer in California. He makes more in one month than you make in a year.
Dopey Home School Parents
Guess he's pissed that my local school district isn't getting money for my little skulls full of mush since I keep them at home. LOL!!
What this person fails to realize is that one of the main goals of home education for me and at least several of my friends who are homeschoolers is NOT to TEACH my children EVERYTHING, but to teach them HOW TO LEARN anything they want to know. That's what a good teacher should be doing, regardless of the setting - home, public OR private school. There are good ones AND bad ones in each vein.
[They would be wise to help their children and themselves by leaving the responsibility of teaching math, science, art, writing, history, geography and other subjects to those who are knowledgeable, trained and motivated to do the best job possible.]
The idea that union teachers are "motivated to do the best job possible" is ludicrous. The teacher who starts their career full of ambition and talent and genuinely works hard to do the best job possible can see that other teachers who are mediocre, or even incompetent, are getting paid the exact same amount of money as they are, and no amount of caring or talent or hard work is going to earn them a dime more than a teacher who doesn't care, or is incompetent or lazy.
Ask yourself if you would continue to "do the best job possible" year after year under these conditions.
Only when public school teachers get paid according to their abilities and accomplishments (like in a real job) will we see better results from public schools.
Teaching is easy; learning and discipline are hard as Hell.
Interesting--he's clearly admitting that he believes teachers aren't just there to teach, their job is to "shape" children's minds and futures (leaving just their careers to the teachers would be bad enough). Further, if this article is indicative of "teachers'" quality of reasoning, it hardly makes a compelling case for sending kids to school.
Interestingly, I was home schooled by my parents, who were not only very well-educated (PhD, Cornell, and BS, Cornell) and well-prepared to teach me and my siblings, but also competent enough at some of the other tasks Mr. Arnold describes as "best left to the pros." When I was about 13, my brother and I, with the help of my dad, built an 8x15 foot, two room house (sort of as an extracurricular project), complete with a finished interior, electricity, telephone, and a high-speed internet connection.
Excellent! Kudos to you and your fine children. I love hearing reports like this.
When someone tells me they're homeschooling I go out of my way to pat them on the back profusely. I get some pretty strange looks, but I don't think there's much more important to this nation then the next generation. It pleases me immensely to see people do an end run on 'the programmers'.
Could you point out whereabouts at that website your data might be found? Thanks,
I do ALL of my home repairs and I help to homeschool too. Go piss up a rope, NEA.
BTW, cement is the dry powder preparation mixed with sand and aggregate to make concrete. When one mixes cement with sand and lime, one prepares mortar. Thus, cement is an ingredient in concrete or mortar. Those who work in the related trades are known as concrete finishers or masons. One does NOT make cement or do cementing work. Of course, being a teacher is a good excuse to hold forth ignorantly. Homeschoolers do better because we experience life and teach from it.
Dave Arnold is showing what pubic education can produce. sheesh!
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LOL! Now ain't that the broom calling the mop dirty. Dave Arnold can kiss my mop bucket.
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