Posted on 07/26/2005 9:45:31 AM PDT by Alouette
Another round in the ongoing Protestant campaign against Israeli security measures is set for Tuesday, when the Disciples of Christ Church is to discuss a resolution calling on Israel to dismantle its West Bank security barrier.
The Disciples of Christ, a strongly liberal American church that broke from the Presbyterian and Baptist churches in the early 1800s, opened its annual general assembly in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday.
The "Tear Down the Wall" resolution that the organization is to weigh is basically the same one adopted at the beginning of July by the United Church of Christ, which shares a common lineage with the Disciples. Both churches have memberships in excess of one million people.
The Common Global Missions Board, an example of modern ties between the Disciples and the UCC, is a shared body that drafted the resolution on the security barrier.
"The Common Global Ministries Board," the resolution reads in part, "calls upon the Israeli government to cease the project to construct the barrier, tear down the segments that have already been constructed, and pay reparations to those who have lost homes, fields, property, and/or lives and health due to the barrier and its effects."
Although the language of the resolution is less incendiary than other anti-Israel divestment resolutions passed by other Protestant churches in the past few years, the fact that the resolution is even being discussed is enough to disturb both Jewish and Christian groups alike.
In the past, such groups as the Judeo-Christian Alliance and the Simon Wiesenthal Center have attempted to encourage members to vote down the resolutions.
On Tuesday as well, members of the Disciples of Christ are expected to demonstrate outside the Portland location of the Disciples assembly, together with representatives of the pro-Israel advocacy group Stand With Us and of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
"In the wake of the terrorist outrages in London and [the recent] suicide bombing at a shopping mall in Israel, this resolution sends the wrong message, at the wrong time, to the wrong people," Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Wiesenthal Center, said in a statement ahead of the general assembly.
Disciples of Christ officials have already rebuffed a Wiesenthal Center request to shelve the resolution.
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Disciples of Christ and United Church of Christ do NOT share a common lineage. They are miles apart both in history and in beliefs.
Apparently they are moving back toward their Presby roots. The PCUSA, anyhow.
It's the church of the Democratic Party. The resolution list reads like their platform.
Why are we NOT surprised!
Instead of getting worked up at the attitude of liberal churches, Jews should be moving to implement the Torah in its totality and educating non-Jews as to their true duties. Let the liberal churches go to hell where they belong. Build the Temple and vindicate G-d and the Torah!
Actually, the DOC arises out of a break-up of the Christian Church "movement. There are four branches ~ three of which are well known. Easy to remember, there are the Christian Church (independent), Chrurch of Christ (non-instrumental), Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), and Seventh-Day Baptist or, as it's better known, Primitive Baptist.
The Christian Church movement, from which all of these groups come, was founded, in part by folks who had been Presbyterians, Baptists, and to a degree, Mormons (and, interestingly enough, many early Christian church movement people joined in the founding of the Mormons)
Each division of the Christian Church operates independently, but they are all riven with many factions as a consequence of their effort to be ecumenical.
It's not surprising at all to see the mind-numbed, robot-like, Godless, knee-jerk Liberal faction of the Disciples of Christ moving onward and upward into total anti-Semitism. After all, the latest break-up in the Christian Church movement began as a consequence of their demand that fascist government be instituted in the Church in the identity of the Minister General.
His first mission was to bring active, practicing homosexuals and lesbians into the ministry.
A house-cleaning is in order.
Think I'll go to Sunday school next week and denounce them.
Pray for Israel and the Peace of Jerusalem.
Do not forget that. God can do what we can not do.
I guess that was because the Berlin Wall performed the useful function of keeping innocents trapped in a murderous police state, rather than the objectionable Israeli wall that keeps murderers from killing innocents.
Pray for Israel and the Peace of Jerusalem.
Do not forget that. God can do what we can not do.
I will pray that the decent Palestinians who want to leave that area, will somehow be allowed to go free. They have no bargain being governed by the likes of Arafat and the Islamikazis. It is an evil bunch.
Did you miss that part?
Ronnie Reagan's mother was also a DOC. She definitely influenced him.
It's not that big a church ~ just a million plus part time members. However, the church people (busybodies who hang around church too much) have these resolutions they pass every year. That's what this is about ~ another meaningless resolution ~ except that this time the church professionals are going to ask the members to become anti-semites.
I think I'd rather see the church professionals burn in hell, and sooner rather than later.
"Hmmm ~ Lyndon Johnson was a DOC member. He performed aggressively against the Godless Commies."
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Lyndon Johnson was one of the very worst Presidents in American History and presided over one of the very worst run wars in World History.
Please.
Lyndon Johnson should rot in Hell forever for his miserable mismanagement of the Viet Nam War, a war we could have, and should have won. Either you fight a war to win or don't fight it at all. That means attackeing the enemy everywhere he's vulnerable, even his supply lines from China and Russia. And you never allow morale at home to be undermined by scum like Jane Fonda and her ilk, operating under the phoney aegis of "free speech".
It's confusing, but I am surprised to hear the Disciples of Christ are in any way involved in contemporary politcs.
Are they the ones that used to be called Campbellites?
I had a great-aunt that was a member if this (I think) same church and she wore dresses down to her ankles and long sleeves and no jewelry, not even a wedding ring. They met in one another's homes and didn't believe in having a church building.
When I was little we kids couldn't go swimming in our swimming suits if she came to visit. We had to wear dresses into the old swimming hole!
This can't possible be the same church????
Sure, there are Campbellites. There are also Seventh Day Baptists and Primitive Baptists (Abe Lincoln's folks belonged to one or the other).
The less well known fourth branch of the Christian Church movement has tremendous variation.
We can still put McNamara on trial for warcrimes against Americans you know. I'd like that.
I went to a DOC church growing up, and I don't remember anyone getting in a fit over swim suits or jewelry. Or, for that matter, some of the "lifestyle choices" made by some of the congregants. The liberal policies of the national body don't surprise me.
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