Authorities Arrest (Egyptian) Men With NYC Maps, Video

ABC News ^ | 7/26/2005 | Richard Esposito

[Pyro7480]

July 26, 2005 — Five Egyptian men with maps of the New York City subway system and video of New York landmarks have been arrested by the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Newark, N.J., ABC News has learned.

FBI and law enforcement officials told ABC News the five men — four illegal immigrants and one law enforcement fugitive — were arrested Sunday night following a tip to the Newark Police Department. In addition to the subway maps and video, the men had train schedules and $8,000 in $20 and $50 bills.

[Pyro7480]

Breaking hard...

[AppyPappy]

What's the difference between these guys and tourists?

[thoughtomator]

Islam.

[ken5050]

"unemployed civil or chemical engineers..." Holy Shiite!!

[Frank_Discussion]

"four illegal immigrants and one law enforcement fugitive"

[sheik yerbouty]

Intent.

[duffthor]

...four illegal immigrants and one law enforcement fugitive...

that's the difference....

[Pyro7480]

Also from the story: The men, all of whom claimed to be unemployed civil or chemical engineers, are set to be deported by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

[Uncledave]

Just lost, trying to find Flashdancers

[mlc9852]

Scary...

[paddles]

Illegal immigrants. Questions, anyone?

[mystery-ak]

OMG

[RegulatorCountry]

Ahmed Mohamed Atta, 30. All in the family?

[contemplator]

Tourists have Visa stamps in their passports? Rhetorical question?

[Frank_Discussion]

Sounds like it might be deportation to Cuba...

[TBarnett34]

TROP^TM

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

What's the difference between these guys and tourists?

I hate to say it, but I've carried subway maps, own a video camera and sometimes carry $50 and $20 bills.

[Izzy Dunne]

The fact that they're illegal immigrants?

The fact that they had large amounts of cash on board?

[mewzilla]

Newark, huh? Quelle suprise.

[nicmarlo]

fyi ping

[Ramcat]

"The men, all of whom claimed to be unemployed civil or chemical engineers, are set to be deported by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement."

Think these guy might show up somewhere else?

[duffthor]

Sure...but $8000 worth of 20s and 50s?

[Coop]

The good news is they caught 'em before anything went down. Let's hope they got all of 'em!

[RegulatorCountry]

"Think these guy might show up somewhere else?"

One jumped an Egyptian freighter to get here in the first place, so, yeah, they probably will.

[rintense]

Bet they came into the US through... Canada!

[debg]

hmmm subways: "...all of whom claimed to be unemployed civil or chemical engineers."

[OXENinFLA]

" law enforcement fugitive"

Someone from lawenforcment?

[Eagles Talon IV]

Set to be deported?

No charges filed, no jail time, no rubber hosing or other types of good ol' American L/E kick the living sh*t out of the terrorist as*holes, interrogation?

[Syncro]

Yea, if they would have been employed citizens the money would have been confiscated as drug money.

Now these guys get to take it home with them?

[BulletBobCo]

We better get ready because it's going to happen sooner or later.

[HonestConservative]

"Karim said he had the maps because he had a new job as a street vendor. Initially, Karim said no one else was in the apartment, but police came upon the three other men upon further search."

You mean one of those illegal street vendors that Bloomberg does not require to have a license?

[Pyro7480]

It doesn't say whether the money was confiscated or not.

[Southack]

"What's the difference between these guys and tourists?" - AppyPappy

From the article: "four illegal immigrants and one law enforcement fugitive"

No visas. Fugitive. Lots of cash on hand. Maps. Video. Regional profile. Chemical and civil engineers.

Plus, someone called in a tip on them. One presumes that tip had additional data (e.g. explosives, poisons, etc.).

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

The fact that they had large amounts of cash on board?

Like $1,600 per each? Remember they can't open a savings account. I've got over $7,000 in my checking account because I'm too lazy to figure out how to invest it and my wife doesn't see my statements.

[siunevada]

four illegal immigrants

Give them a notice to appear at their deportation hearing and release them.

[Syncro]

Let's hope they got all of 'em!

I'm sure that is the last of them. We're safe now...

[COBOL2Java]

No doubt CAIR will condemn the Joint Terrorism Task Force with bigotry in this action.

[RegulatorCountry]

"We better get ready because it's going to happen sooner or later."

Well, all the shark attack stuff in the news, plus Chandra Levy getting dredged back up sure gives me a sense of deja vu. All we need now is a couple of big solar flares and I'll really start to wonder what the cosmos is trying to tell us, LOL.

[lowbridge]

hate to say it, but I've carried subway maps, own a video camera and sometimes carry $50 and $20 bills.

For everyones safety, please place yourself under arrest.

Thank you.

[Southack]

"Set to be deported?"

Absolutely. Trace them to their handler and cell.

[Plutarch]

Illegal immigrants. Questions, anyone?

Dang, too bad Bayourod has been banned. He would have set our minds at ease. These were just hard-working immigrants that overzealous xenophobic officials have unjustly accused.

[nuconvert]

thanx for the ping

[debg]

The FBI raided a mosque in Falls Church today. They took the computers and other communications. (I heard this on the radio but have yet to find a news link.)

[HonestConservative]

HOw about doing some time for breaking immigration law, minimum? Lying to police? Obstruction of justice. Jaywalking. loitering, trespassing, fraud.

Creativity is the mother of good prison time.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

What's the problem here? They were just scouting to find the best place to open a falafel stand. The eight grand was there to make an instant cash offer if they found a suitable location.

[r9etb]

Intent.

Suspicion. Maybe even valid suspicion. But it's still only suspicion.

However, given that they're 4 illegals and a fugitive, we needn't worry about such niceties -- we've got them on unambiguous charges.

[Syncro]

...and my wife doesn't see my statements.

". >)

[mystery-ak]

If one jumped a freighter to get here...how did they all link up?

[Sub-Driver]

sounds to me like racial profiling....call in the ACLU.

[mewzilla]

One of them supposedly bugged off a freighter five years ago. How and when did the others get here, I wonder.