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Tancredo talk too offensive? Too bad.
World Net Daily ^ | July 23, 2005 | Radio Interview/Campbell

Posted on 07/26/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk

Tom Tancredo, the Colorado congressman who caused an uproar with the suggestion Muslim holy sites could be taken out in response to a nuclear attack on U.S. cities, is making no apologies if people are offended by his frank talk.

"Many critics of my statements have characterized them as 'offensive,' and indeed they may have offended some," writes Tancredo in a guest commentary in the Denver Post.

"But in this battle against fundamentalist Islam, I am hardly preoccupied with political correctness, or who may or may not be offended. Indeed, al-Qaida cares little if the Western world is 'offended' by televised images of hostages beheaded in Iraq, subway bombings in London, train attacks in Madrid, or Americans jumping to their death from the Twin Towers as they collapsed."

Tancredo, who in recent months has been an outspoken critic of immigration policies allowing illegal aliens to stream across U.S. borders, says few can argue the current approach to the war on terror has deterred fundamentalists from killing Westerners, adding so-called moderate Muslims and leaders of Muslim countries have done little to crack down on extremists.

"That being the case, perhaps the civilized world must intensify its approach," Tancredo says. "Does that mean the United States should be retargeting its entire missile arsenal on Mecca today? Does it mean we ought to be sending Stealth bombers on runs over Medina? Clearly not.

"But should we take any option or target off the table, regardless of the circumstances? Absolutely not, particularly if the mere discussion of an option or target may dissuade a fundamentalist Muslim extremist from strapping on a bomb-filled backpack, or if it might encourage 'moderate' Muslims to do a better job cracking down on extremism in their ranks."

Tancredo's commentary comes in the wake of reaction to his remarks during a Florida radio discussion.

In the interview with Pat Campbell of WFLA radio, Tancredo discussed his request for a briefing from the Justice Department on information it has on plans revealed by WND this week for a nuclear attack on the U.S. by al-Qaida terrorists.

Campbell noted that just after the July 7 London bombings, former Israeli counterterrorism intelligence officer Juval Aviv predicted an attack in the U.S. within the next 90 days. Aviv believes the plan is to attack not one big city, like New York, but half-a-dozen smaller ones, including towns in the heartland.

The host asked Tancredo, "Worst case scenario, if they do have these nukes inside the border, what would our response be?"

The congressman replied: "There are things you could threaten to do before something like that happens, and then you have to do afterwards, that are quite draconian."

"Well," Tancredo continued, "what if you said something like, 'If this happens in the United States and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you could take out their holy sites.'"

Campbell: "You're talking about bombing Mecca?"

Tancredo: "Yeah. What if you said, we recognize that this is the ultimate threat to the United States, therefore this is the ultimate response."

The congressman quickly added, "I don't know, I'm just throwing out some ideas, because it seems that at that point in time you would be talking about taking the most draconian measures you could imagine. Because other than that, all you could do is tighten up internally."

Tancredo's office clarified the comments, saying Tancredo was not advocating an attack on Muslim holy sites.

As WND reported, the controversial lobby group Council on American-Islamic Relations is urging the Republican Party to repudiate Tancredo's remarks.

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CAIR to GOP: Repudiate Tancredo

Tancredo clarifies 'ultimate response'


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaida; muslim; nukemecca; tancredo; terror; tonyorlandoanddawn
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1 posted on 07/26/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
Savage had Tancredo on tonight. I think it is clear that the language coming out of the WH with respect to the criminal alien problem and open borders that it is a conservative talk radio instigated issue comes right from the Clinton WH and their talking points writers. If it doesn't or even if it does, it means our enemy still inhabits the seat of power and that enemy requires defeat. The enemy is the enemy of the US Constitution whether it wears a suit with GOP on it or Democrat.
2 posted on 07/26/2005 7:30:48 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Kenny Bunk

"CAIR to GOP: Repudiate Tancredo"

Earth to CAIR: FOAD.


3 posted on 07/26/2005 7:32:16 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


4 posted on 07/26/2005 7:33:01 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Final Authority

good to hear from another savage fan. I actually podcast him..had do that on my own, subscription to talkradionetwork , supermp3recorder then cut the commericals out listen to it in the morning. I did listen to Tancredo all ready.


5 posted on 07/26/2005 7:33:40 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Final Authority

I also predict they will try to shut Savage down and find a way to silence Tancredo.


6 posted on 07/26/2005 7:34:50 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Final Authority
I just learned of this accusation against right-wing talk radio, and coincidentally, caught Rep. Tancredo on The Savage Nation. The more I hear from him, the more I like him.

I'll keep saying it: Tancredo will be ravaged by his own party. The Old Boys Club will try to destroy him.
7 posted on 07/26/2005 7:35:29 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Kenny Bunk
Campbell: "You're talking about bombing Mecca?"

Tancredo: "Yeah.

Yeah.

8 posted on 07/26/2005 7:36:01 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Kenny Bunk

As Hugh Hewitt points out: notice that absolutely nobody in political life is coming to Tancredo's defense? That's an excellent indication that you said something really stupid. Nobody is offended by the idea. It's stupid and counterproductive. That's all.


9 posted on 07/26/2005 7:37:18 PM PDT by RBMN
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To: Kenny Bunk
This guy was on Hannity and Combs tonight, I don't know why these people agree to talk to the despicable Combs. His (Tancredo's) suggestion has a familiar ring as it is commonly reported that France years ago in fact made this threat thru back water channels when they were having some significant problems with Muslims.
10 posted on 07/26/2005 7:39:02 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: dsc

TO CAIR:
Go wipe your butt because you stink. Then put your knee pads on and eat a big one!

If this PC is not plain enough for you I can do better. "Your 70 goats are waiting for you!!


12 posted on 07/26/2005 7:41:40 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: Kenny Bunk

Look folks, the only thing that will solve every problem that has plagued man for 6000 years is the "Kingdom of God, on Earth". You can post every idea, cute quote, original thought you want, and that's ok. But if you don't pray at least once a day for "thy Kingdom come", you are part of the problem, not the solution. Until the curse that came from sin is lifted from mankind, the same old hatred, wars, envy, jealousy, haves and have nots, etc. will continue. The one big difference, man got so smart he finally invented a weapon that can clean this planets clock. And now its in the hands of fanatics like Al K-Duh, Dr. Ill, Pakistan, Red China, India, and I'm sure soon Chavez in South America. Its only a matter of time before someone lights one off, with escalation the only option, trumpeting the end of all life on Earth. The only other option is looking above for Divine intervention, instead of beneath at fallen man, and his ultimate solution, total destruction.


13 posted on 07/26/2005 7:42:23 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Doctors may delay your death, but only Jesus Christ can save your life.)
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To: JerryWagoneer310

Fat Boy and Little Man..


14 posted on 07/26/2005 7:42:36 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (1980's RR-Communism Evil Empire 2000's GWB-Communism good for Business)
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To: Das Outsider
The more I hear from him, the more I like him.

Tancredo is very good at tossing out the red meat...but that's where his talent ends.

15 posted on 07/26/2005 7:43:21 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: kublia khan

Tancredo was on Pawn Vanity?


16 posted on 07/26/2005 7:44:17 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Only a pacifist doormat can argue with Tom's words. If 4 million Americans die in a nuclear or bio attack I would start with the pyramids in Egypt and tell the Grand Mufti either he calls off the Jihad or your most precious holy sites are next.
17 posted on 07/26/2005 7:44:59 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: Kewlhand`tek

btw Savage says we should do random acts of violence. surreptitiously take out a port in Iran, blow something up in Syria, make it look like muslim extremist(redundant i know) did it, send flowers and condolences.


18 posted on 07/26/2005 7:47:37 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Tancredo is the only politician out there who has any balls.
I totaly agree with him, if they nuke us, bye bye Mecca.


19 posted on 07/26/2005 7:48:10 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: JerryWagoneer310
Picture it: A day like any other. People are going about their everyday lives. There is an explosion in Manhattan: a huge one. Everything within a half a mile is gone. From the air, a mushroom cloud can be seen--it was a nuclear attack. By the time the media breaks the story, the second one is going off in downtown Los Angeles. Five minutes later, there is a detonation in Chicago. The networks, scrambling and attempting to ride through the chaos, is reporting potential casualty figures in the hundreds of thousands. Here's the worst part: there's more to come.

You are in charge of the response. You know that al-Qaida has said that they would use nuclear weapons on the U.S., and that they intend to kill 4 million Americans to settle their grievances. What do you do?

BTW, Christians don't approve of killing innocents. Why Tancredo's statement appeals to so many of us is two-fold: he stepped outside of the Washington PC box for a minute, and, he made hamburger of a sacred cow, dear to both liberals and weak-kneed Republicans.
20 posted on 07/26/2005 7:49:43 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: JerryWagoneer310
That's funny - Japan sure fell right in line and quit messing with us in a hurry. It appears you aren't tired enough of muslims and their cowardly shit yet. A lot of us are.

BTW - they've ALREADY attacked and killed us. Screw your "global standpoint" too!

21 posted on 07/26/2005 7:49:58 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: ErnBatavia
Tancredo is very good at tossing out the red meat...but that's where his talent ends.

I'll take red meat over the SPAM that's coming out of the White House these days.
22 posted on 07/26/2005 7:51:26 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Riptides

Makes you wonder what our policy in the 80's was if a suitcase nuke went off in the US? I would think we would instantly send some fireworks to Moscow.


23 posted on 07/26/2005 7:51:37 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (1980's RR-Communism Evil Empire 2000's GWB-Communism good for Business)
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To: Riptides

Tancredo and Ron Paul ticket with Savage as Homeland Security Secretary


24 posted on 07/26/2005 7:51:37 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Riptides

Tancredo and Ron Paul ticket with Savage as Homeland Security Secretary


25 posted on 07/26/2005 7:51:41 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
The GWB gang or BushBots will show up soon on this thread and flame anybody who may have a good word to say for either Savage or Tancredo.

I can relate a situation that occurred about ten years ago, before there were blogs and certainly FR, there was the "Great Liberty Net" on 3950 KHz AM SSB usually 10:00 Saturday nights during the Clinton scandal years. It was a group of "hams" who discussed politics. The leader, Vic Misek from Hudson NH (W1WCR) held court and they flamed Hillary and the president. It was not long after they had international followers and 48 states involved before there was a concerted effort to jam their frequency during the discussions, which of course, is illegal. There is ample evidence that during these times no effort was made by the government to rein in the jammers. There was of course some letters written and the suspect jammer would go silent but then another would fire up. The same thing would happen then another jammer would go on air. The jammers were much more powerful than the average rig and they held the high ground in the eastern mountains.

It is my belief and that of Kevin Strom (search google) that the jammers were part of the WH activity to attempt to quell outspoken opposition. I think we are seeing it now and I think it will intensify.
26 posted on 07/26/2005 7:51:42 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Kenny Bunk

For whatever it's worth the left gets away with vicious, hate filled language because they use it so often and so much as part their overall tactic that it becomes exhausting to fight. Right or wrong his were only spoken words not actions. It may some day come down to fighting fire with fire, I don't know. But somehow this language doesn't bother me, maybe I've been desensitized by the Whoopie Goldberg, Howard Dean and the rest of the hate mongers of tolerance>


27 posted on 07/26/2005 7:52:17 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Kenny Bunk
Drop the bomb on mohamhead!

KIll A Commie For Mommie

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28 posted on 07/26/2005 7:52:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Justice ends when suicide attacks begin. From then on, it about deterrence through Retribution off such a large scale that future suicide attacks are not called for nor acceptable to our enemies =(Islam).


29 posted on 07/26/2005 7:54:07 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Final Authority

I dont know much about the HAM community, just a few periphrial things. I thought it was taboo to discuss politics on shortwave.


30 posted on 07/26/2005 7:55:22 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: RBMN

absolutely nobody in political life is coming to Tancredo's defense?



absolutely nobody in political life is coming to Tancredo's defense because nobody in political life except Tancredo has any cojones.

Tancredo for President.


31 posted on 07/26/2005 7:56:10 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: JerryWagoneer310
Listen, we are in a real war. In wars people die. It's not neat and nice but that's what happens. Do you really believe that everybody in Dresden was a soldier? How about Nagasaki or Hiroshima? "Innocent" people die. You have to make the price of continuing the war intolerable or the slime bags we're fighting will keep blowing up buses, trains and pizza parlors.

When the cost of allowing these murders to operate from their homelands begins to cost the "moderate" muslims more than they're willing to pay, they will do something about their "extremeists". Until that time I believe that the "religion of peace" is content to allow the fanatics to rule the roost. If innocent muslims have to die to prevent innocent Americans from dying so be it. They brought this upon themselves.

32 posted on 07/26/2005 7:56:55 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Kenny Bunk

Another attack against the U.S. will end this debate, CAIR will any credibility it may have now and Tancredo won't have to defend his remarks anymore.


33 posted on 07/26/2005 7:57:20 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Kenny Bunk

Another attack against the U.S. will end this debate, CAIR will lose any credibility it may have now and Tancredo won't have to defend his remarks anymore.


34 posted on 07/26/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Kewlhand`tek
Between two or more people, one can discuss anything within the purview of decency. One cannot "broadcast" politics or anything else for that matter, especially jamming signals.
35 posted on 07/26/2005 7:59:16 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Kewlhand`tek
Don't get me started on Hannity He's spent the last two months championing a girl who went to a foreign country, went out with three strange men while drinking and disappeared. He has befriended her parents who allowed her to go to a foreign country with irresponsible chaperone's. I'm sure my views won't win me a popularity contest but if we didn't have video footage of her as a cheer leader and a portrait of her looking her very best and if her mother was some overweight redneck of a woman rather than the reasonably photogenic and conversant person she is this would have disappeared 7 weeks ago.
36 posted on 07/26/2005 8:03:02 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Final Authority
was the "Great Liberty Net" on 3950 KHz AM SSB usually 10:00 Saturday nights during the Clinton scandal years. It was a group of "hams" who discussed politics. The leader, Vic Misek from Hudson NH (W1WCR

I remember it well. Tuned in all the time. Vic was great.

37 posted on 07/26/2005 8:05:52 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: JerryWagoneer310

but I think it defeats the whole purpose when the number of innocent "enemy" civilians killed greatly outweighs the number of innocent American citizens killed, at least from a global standpoint.



I thank God, that we did not have this type of mental disease in WW2.

Gee, Mr. Truman, if we drop on bomb on Hiroshima and kill and injure over 100,000 INNOCENTS, without us losing one man, WHAT WILL THE GLOBAL STANDPOINT BE? And golly gee wiz, what will happen if we do it AGAIN to those poor people in Nagasaki? Oh woe is US, the world will not like that.

Hint: When you are in a fight, the object is NOT to hit the opponent as many times as he hits you. The objective is to hit the opponent 10 times harder and faster, so you can end the fight quickly and in such a way that the opponent does not come back for more.

Tancredo is right except for one thing. We can't wait to be attacked AGAIN. We need to start Nuking Islam NOW - again and again until they surrender unconditionally.

Give em 48 hours to leave Damascus then flatten it. Repeat with other terrorist sponsoring cities as needed.


38 posted on 07/26/2005 8:05:54 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Das Outsider
You are in charge of the response. You know that al-Qaida has said that they would use nuclear weapons on the U.S., and that they intend to kill 4 million Americans to settle their grievances. What do you do?

Erasing the capital city of every one of Al-Qaeda's state sponsors would probably be a good start.

39 posted on 07/26/2005 8:08:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Graham Petrie, 1911 - 2005. Rest in Peace.)
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To: Das Outsider

Your scenario shows why we can't wait to be hit.

Nuke first and often.


40 posted on 07/26/2005 8:09:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

If you want to look at this in a "reasonable" light, there is a way to do it. It makes a whole lot more sense to let them know what we are going to do to them now than it does to wait until they blow up NY or DC, and then let them find out the hard way.


41 posted on 07/26/2005 8:12:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: kublia khan

Ah, yes. FNC. The Natalee Holloway Channel. Jeez.


42 posted on 07/26/2005 8:12:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Graham Petrie, 1911 - 2005. Rest in Peace.)
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To: Black Tooth
Tune them in as they are still on but without the incessant jamming they endured during the Clinton years. Because of the Internet and Internet ham radio there is less activity "on air" as in the past.
43 posted on 07/26/2005 8:13:51 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It's a hellish nightmare--almost unimaginable, which is why I present it to everyone who attacks Tancredo. I am familiar with some of the information given to the Congressman, which has been corroborated by other sources (some very questionable). My doomsday scenario is based on that info; excepting the particulars.

The problem is this: we might see it in our lifetime.
44 posted on 07/26/2005 8:15:13 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Final Authority
Savage had Tancredo on tonight.

Indeed he did. But what Tancredo said there is likely to annoy many of his most dedicated followers.

45 posted on 07/26/2005 8:15:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: TomasUSMC

Tomas, I'm glad to have had a guy like you serving America. This is why I love the Marines.


46 posted on 07/26/2005 8:16:47 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Kenny Bunk

I love this guy. Too bad there is such a large idiot contingency. Otherwise, he'd have a great shot at the presidency.


47 posted on 07/26/2005 8:17:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Final Authority

hmmm bushbots must be asleep, at least we are getting good debate on this tread...granted its isnt a Savage thread. I guess the word "Tancredo" makes the bushbots buzz off, if they ignore him he doesnt exist.


48 posted on 07/26/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
subscription to talkradionetwork

Don't pay those schmucks a dime! You can record Savage here:

6pm EST: KNEW or KERN
10pm EST: 97.1 Talk FM
1am: WDBO

Just enter the call signs in google and you'll get the sites.

49 posted on 07/26/2005 8:20:24 PM PDT by montag813
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To: RightWhale

What did he say that annoyed you?


50 posted on 07/26/2005 8:20:55 PM PDT by Final Authority
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