Posted on 07/27/2005 10:54:15 AM PDT by Sam Hill
Former CIA man Larry Johnson, in an interview with PBS's "NewsHour":
This is not an alleged abuse. This is a confirmed abuse. I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been undercover for three decades, she is not as Bob Novak suggested a CIA analyst. But given that, I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency until I left the agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it.
So the fact that she's been undercover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous.
If Johnson is right that Plame has been undercover for three decades, she must have been quite a prodigy. A Washington Post profile of Wilson says his wife is 40 years old--though we suppose it's not unheard of for women to be "covert" about their age. Putting aside the question of timing, it's possible that both Novak and Johnson are right--that Plame was undercover when Johnson worked at the CIA but was a mere analyst at headquarters by the time Novak wrote about her. This may explain why the CIA asked Novak not to use her name, and also why, as he has said, "it was a very weak request."
In any case, there's ample reason to be suspicious of Wilson's motives in all this...
(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...
Plame is forty-ish now. She would have had to have started at the CIA when she was ten.
It just goes to show that Johnson is willing to say anything to get some attention for his hate-America agenda.
"If Johnson is right that Plame has been undercover for three decades, she must have been quite a prodigy. A Washington Post profile of Wilson says his wife is 40 years old--though we suppose it's not unheard of for women to be "covert" about their age."
I had actually forgotten that Larry "Wrong Way" Johnson was the source of this howler.
Who would have guessed?
Laaaarry. Laaarry. Laaarry. < /sheastadiumtauntingchant >
I think the 'Spy Kids' movies were modeled on her life. BTW, thanks for your efforts in outing the bureaurat lefty punk Larry Johnson...
LOL...undercover but everybody in her hood knew her...LOL
Three decades...So she's been undercover since she was 12 years old then?
lol...I can't believe you said it outloud!!Hope you don't get any of those "threatening" posts from lcjohnso
So, according to Johnson, she started as an undercover operative for the CIA at the age of 11.
"I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover."
His mendacity is just breath-taking. Analysts working at Langley are under "light cover." That is, they tell people they work for Social Security or the Department Of Agriculture or something.
They are not under "non-official cover" which is the only kind of cover the law in question protects. Lying Larry was NEVER under this kind of cover. And Plame, if she ever was, has not been for the required five years.
But this guy will say anything to hurt this country and its war against terrorism. He is clearly twisted.
Who is paying him? He lives on talk shows (which do not pay) and spends all of his time writing anti-American screed on his (crappy) counter-terrorism blog.
Is he sucking on a Soros tit?
Typical liberal - lives in a "dream" world as some covert, James Bond CIA "operative." Only he and his liberal friends can save the world!
Give me a break.
Doesn't 30 years in govt service entitle one to a full pension? At any rate, most women with children who have been working for 30 years are tired. She should be glad she was outed.
Even Johnson can't be stupid enough to threaten other citizens with violence after his last pathetic showing.
Hmmmm......a covert agent at the age of 12......does ol Larry know what a decade means?
Does that make Larry Johnson a pedophile?
Watched him on C-Span testifying to the Senate Democrat Committee of Idiots, and he does, indeed, have the flair for the dramatic. At the start of his testimony, he said that when he "sees a woman getting bullied by a room-full of men" that he fights on behalf of that woman. Almost spit up my Sam Adams (remember: he was a patriot AND a brewer).
Since your exchange with Johnson, you have been constantly attacking all aspects of his credibility, and exposing every thing he has ever said as BS. I like your style. Keep it up.
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Of course! Plame was the inspiration for that movie!
"For the record, Valerie Plame turned 42 this past April 19. So, according to Johnson, she started as an undercover operative for the CIA at the age of 11."
This article is from October 2003.
Hmmmm Valerie told Wilson, a then married (separated) man, on their third date.
So Larry can stick that rule up his ********.
Now that you mention it, he is pretty tight with Scott Ritter. And he does speak highly of flame-broiled burgers.
Plame has ALWAYS been a super secret double naught spy. She was even born with a fake mustache.
I'm pretty sure this is a semantics trick:
If we accept (I don't) that she was undercover right up until 2003, then she was undercover in this decade.
She was undercover in the decade of the 1990's.
If she was undercover in 1989, then she was undercover in the decade of the 1980's.
Voila! Undercover for something like 14 years means you were undercover for 3 decades!
Typical Clintonian mendacity.
"Since your exchange with Johnson, you have been constantly attacking all aspects of his credibility, and exposing every thing he has ever said as BS."
Since before. He's a very easy target. A pinata.
(And technically, I haven't had any exchanges with him. That was Mad Mammoth.)
Well she could have been under cover from 1979-1991.
If you start working for someone when you're in your 20's, then continue through you're 30's and into your 40's it is common to refer to that time frame as 3 decades.
I stand corrected. Keep up the good work.
LOL! Even better.
Make that age 9.
This should be an easy fact to check. I wonder if it isn't a semantics argument tho. He says he left in 89. Let's say she started in 87 (22 years old). That'd mean she worked in the 80s, 90s, and 00s, spanning 3 decades, but not a full 30 years. In that case, what he said was technically wrong, but sort of beside the point. So what if she worked undercover for 17 years? If it's a fact that she was outed (and I don't know that it is), does this discrepency mean anything?
That would be "in three decades" not "for three decades."
Gordy Howe played in an NHL game in 4 different decades. He was not in the NHL for 4 decades.
If Johnson had any respect at all for the CIA, he would be howling for Plame's and Wilson's heads on a platter for using the intelligence organization as a Kerry campiagn base. The man is a fraud and he apparently loves being used as a patsy. I have no respect for Larry Johnson.
I agree that he could have meant her time undercover spans 3 decades, which is true. But let's say she only was undercover for 17 years, instead of 30. What difference does that make?
Wonder what the demoncRATS or even Joe Wilson are paying this jerk who's living in lala land?
You see that sort of thing now and again - "A career spanning four decades...." when someone went to work in, say, 1979, and retired in 2001. Technically, they were there for the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2k.
I highly doubt that she was undercover in her teens, 20s and 30s.
Without getting into technicalities, there's a little more to being "covert" than not telling anyone who you work for. This guy's a classic spook wannabe, IMHO.
I understand what you are saying. But Plame never went undercover in that sence until after she left the London School Of Economics--which she attended after the Gulf War.
Reportedly, her cover was pulled in 1994. So it looks like at best she was undercover for maybe a year or two.
But I even wonder if that is true.
Hilariously, lying Larry has said that he knew Plame went undercover in 1990. Since he had left the CIA by that time, you have to wonder how he knew such a thing. That fact being such a heavily guarded national secret and all.
(Though, elsewhere, lying Larry says that there should be no such things as classified material. But that is when he is begging intel types to break the law and their oaths and leak national security secrets to hurt this country.)
At least, that is what I was taught. How things change. Mistakes are now characterized as lies and lies are characterized as a misunderstanding.
Tim McCarver played Major League baseball in 4 different decades.
Larry has been outed as a shill, like the Wilsons. Anymore, they all play to the DUmmies and few others. I can't wait to see the results of the Special Prosecutor's investigation. "Backfire" is the term that comes to mind....
Larry Johnson, obviously trying his hardest to PROVE what an idiot he is.....well, he has succeeded. He's also a huge Bush HATER.
Valerie told Wilson that she was CIA on their third date. Who else did she date??
I've taken sh!ts that have more common sense than Larry Johnson.
Has anyone answered why yet?
It's obvious. He made out with her.
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