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See Jane's magical mystery tour - (Fonda's vegetable oil anti-Iraq war bus tour..Vietnam Redux!)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | JULY 27, 2005 | KATHLEEN PARKER

Posted on 07/27/2005 8:12:08 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Like millions of Americans, I heaved a sigh of relief upon reading that Jane Fonda finally is going to speak out against the war in Iraq. Where has she been?

On book tour promoting her autobiography-in-progress, "My Life So Far." We might have guessed a real-time sequel was in the offing.


Fonda says that, having met some veterans and their families while on tour, she's decided to break her silence. "I've decided I'm coming out," she told an audience in Santa Fe, N.M. "I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam. I carry a lot of baggage from that."

That baggage includes the now infamous photo of Fonda in 1972 sitting atop a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun while on a tour of that country. Many Vietnam vets do not forgive Fonda for what they view as treason and for making their lives harder, especially prisoners of war who were tortured in her name. To her limited credit, Fonda has apologized.

Still, her newest foray into antiwar territory feels like a cartoonish parody of her former self. Jane Fonda playing Jane Fonda. In her newest version of Me, Myself and I, Fonda will segue from book tour to antiwar tour via a cross-country trip on a bus that runs on vegetable oil. Slick. But is it canola?

Fonda is mum on details but promises "it's going to be pretty exciting." One can hardly wait. Suddenly, I find myself dreaming of a time when the Rolling Stones do not do one more tour, and Jane Fonda does not find her groove again.

Ending the war is surely the goal of any sane person, but what precisely would Jane Fonda and others against the war have us do? Withdrawing now isn't an option. Losing the war isn't an option. Handing Iraq to terrorists isn't an option. Even those opposed to invading Iraq concede that much.

So what is the point of an antiwar, vegetable oil bus tour? After this trip, Fonda may need a small island to accommodate the baggage she'll accrue.

Meanwhile, there is serious work to do in Iraq, especially as a new constitution is being crafted, the success of which will hasten our ability to withdraw successfully. If Fonda and other celebrities want to attach their names to something constructive, they might join the Independent Women's Forum (iwf.org) in trying to advance the status of women in Iraq and, ultimately, throughout the Middle East.

IWF members meet regularly with Iraqi women, both in the U.S. and abroad, to teach them the principles of democracy and equal rights. Their critically important work is based on the understanding that democracy and freedom are the antidote to terrorism, and that women's (and other minority) rights are fundamental to the ultimate cure.

At this precarious moment, as terrorists gain momentum from successful hits in Britain, Lebanon, Egypt and elsewhere, Iraq's working-draft constitution leaves much to be desired. Of greatest concern is a section that leaves personal matters - marriage, divorce and inheritance - to whatever religious law is practiced by the family's sect.

Women are equal, in other words, as long as their rights don't violate Shariah, or Koranic law. What this could mean for Iraqi women is on vivid display in places where Islamic law rules.

A few days ago, for example, a woman in an Indian village who was raped by her father-in-law was forced to nullify her marriage, marry the rapist, and act as mother to her former husband. This mind-numbing fatwa was issued by South Asia's most powerful theological school, according to The Washington Times.

Before the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, Iraqi men and women were almost equal. Except for those chosen especially for rape by Saddam's sons and their henchmen, women faced only the same tortures as men. Now, they may face diminished status under a constitution that, as proposed, contradicts democratic principles of equality and freedom.

The Iraqi parliament has until Aug. 15 to adopt a draft constitution, which then faces a nationwide referendum by mid-October. If the women lose, we all lose.

Now there's a cause for feminists and Fondas alike. If we want to end the war in Iraq, a sound, woman-friendly constitution is at least part of the answer. To that end, Michelle Bernard, the IWF senior vice president who runs the democratic outreach program to Iraqi women, says she'd be happy to accept Fonda's check.


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KEYWORDS: 2006; antiiraqwar; antimilitary; booktour; bustour; janefonda; march; memories; mylifesofar; vegetableoil; vietnam

1 posted on 07/27/2005 8:12:10 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

That's Wessonality...


2 posted on 07/27/2005 8:13:07 PM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; tet68; Nam Vet; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; SMARTY; CyberAnt; nothingnew; ..
Fonda alert!

Char

3 posted on 07/27/2005 8:13:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

What does she use on her skin?

Oil Of Old Age?


5 posted on 07/27/2005 8:14:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: CHARLITE

Excellant post. Says it all.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 8:15:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: CHARLITE
"I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam. I carry a lot of baggage from that."

Yeah. We can see it in your eyes. Errrr...I mean under your eyes.

7 posted on 07/27/2005 8:15:26 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If we're The Religious Right, does that make them The Godless Left? Discuss.)
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To: CHARLITE


You VILL attend mein show, schweinehund!
8 posted on 07/27/2005 8:15:59 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: CHARLITE

Now, more than ever, America needs Jane Fonda in a vegetable oil powered bus.


9 posted on 07/27/2005 8:18:00 PM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: CHARLITE

I hope she comes to Mobile! I'd love to see her, she can express her views, and oh I can hardly wait to express MINE!

Somehow, I don't think she'll like what I've got to say.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 8:19:43 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: CHARLITE
Many Vietnam vets do not forgive Fonda for what they view as treason

trea·son ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trzn)

n.

Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

Its not "viewed as treason" it *WAS* treason.

11 posted on 07/27/2005 8:19:44 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: CHARLITE
The author almost got the song correct. It is actually BROTHER LOVE'S TRAVELING SALVATION SHOW
12 posted on 07/27/2005 8:23:49 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Texas Eagle

Father Time has not been kind to Jane.


13 posted on 07/27/2005 8:25:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: CHARLITE

Stupid dumb bass bee-otch. Nothing much to say about commie "ladies of the night." She makes my skin crawl. First she's a Christian and Ted's not, so she divorces him. Then she's not either except a feminist-christian who still embraces everything not American. If this wasn't a family forum, I'd continue. Since it is a family forum I'll not invoke other nouns and adjectives for this piece of sewage slime.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 8:27:05 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: CHARLITE

Once a traitor, always a traitor!


15 posted on 07/27/2005 8:28:35 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: CHARLITE

Looks like she's gonna blow an artery in the photo. We can hope...


16 posted on 07/27/2005 8:28:58 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: Shadowstrike
I hope she comes to Mobile!

When you're done talking to her, send her across the line to Laurel, MS. We Jones County folks would have words with her as well.
17 posted on 07/27/2005 8:30:10 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: waylenjen
Nonsense. Hanoi Jane is irrelevant to anything these days except to her own and the LSM's respective egos.

''Dangerous'' should absolutely be reserved for Hitlery. Fonda can't wreck the Republic any further than she tried 35 years ago; Hitlery can, however, and would very much prefer to do.

18 posted on 07/27/2005 8:31:07 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: CHARLITE
She looks more like Ellen Degenerate than Jane Fonda in the first photo you posted. What's up with the flippy-out hair do? I just washed my hair and can't do a thing with it, but this is like SOOOOO in style.

I have to leave this thread. I so can't stand this piece of filthy commie trash.

19 posted on 07/27/2005 8:33:29 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: CHARLITE

Was stopped at a light beside a minivan that (according to the sign on back) had been converted to burn vegetable oil. Never saw such smoke and crud coming out of a tailpipe ever before!


20 posted on 07/27/2005 8:36:12 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: CHARLITE

"I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam. I carry a lot of baggage from that."

No kidding! (I almost said, "No shit!").

There is one problem for you, Ms. Jane, and your ilk. Let's go back 35 years. Back then guys were saying, "If we had been attacked, I'd feel different about going off to fight in Vietnam. It'd be different if the Vietnamese people were a threat to America".

Guess what?


21 posted on 07/27/2005 8:40:06 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: neverhome

I L0VED the Godzilla pic.

Send Jane to Laurel, oh that would be a great pleasure.


22 posted on 07/27/2005 8:43:18 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SAJ
"Hitlery can, however, and would very much prefer to do."

Fonda is now both a joke, a pitiful relic pitifully attempting to recreate what she obviously still thinks of as her "glory days." You're right. Killery is the real menace. She can do gigantic damage to this republic. Fonda's running on Wesson oil, if she runs anywhere at all.

Madame Wannabe Empress of the World is a potentially FATAL person in this country. We simply can not possibly afford another MINUTE of having ANY Clinton in our White House, let alone the two of them back in there for a possible 2nd run of 8 disastrous years. They have already done enough damage. My fervent wish is that somehow I can "wish upon a star" and have both of them permanently removed from public view.

Thanks for your remarks. They are a very assessment of these two women; - the difference between a rapacious wannabe and a distinct has-been.

Char (:

23 posted on 07/27/2005 8:50:07 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

Who's Jane Fonda?

Was she in Vietnam?




Anyone for setting up a Spitting Tour?


24 posted on 07/27/2005 8:54:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; CHARLITE
Looks like she's gonna blow an artery in the photo. We can hope...



Sadly enuff... this may actually be an improvement. :D
25 posted on 07/27/2005 8:54:23 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: CHARLITE

loser 60's freak. Also again with the fake causes. Yet she has botox treatments. Ha,ha. She should get them on her hands and neck while she is at it. Loser.


26 posted on 07/27/2005 8:58:25 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Shadowstrike
I hope she comes to Mobile!

I guess I should add that the pictured tunnel is IN MOBILE. You and I know that, but everyone else probably thought I'd lost my limited mind! :p
27 posted on 07/27/2005 9:00:54 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: All
Thanks to Nixon
the lies of Hanoi Kerry and Hanoi Jane
are being told again.
And our military are being slandered in Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan

Hanoi Kerry and War Crimes in Vietnam

Hanoi Kerry went before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 1971
to accuse the United States military
of committing massive numbers of war crimes in Vietnam.

Too bad that because Nixon failed to uphold the law,
we are still stuck with Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry.
If Nixon hadn't caved into the minority anti-war crowd
and listened to the Silent Majority
Hanoi Jane AND Hanoi Kerry
would have been prosecuted for their treason in the 70's,
while Nixon was still President.

Keep in mind that Nixon was directly involved in Viet Nam,
as Vice President, going back to at least 1955.

26 Sep 1945 - The first death of an American serviceman in Vietnam occurred.
OSS (Office of Special Operations) Major (Lieutenant Colonel) A. Peter Dewey
was killed in action by the Communist Vietminh near Hanoi.

May 1950 President Harry S Truman authorised $10 million in aid to the French for their war in Viet Nam.
By January 1951, $150 million had been given in aid.

1953-61 Dwight D. Eisenhower 34th US President
1953-61 Richard M. Nixon Vice President
1953 - The US is supporting the French in the amount of $1 billion per year--
33% of all US foreign aid--which is 80% of the total cost to the
. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (under Eisenhower) first voices the 'Domino Theory':
if one country in Southeast Asia falls to the Communists, they will all fall, one by one.

12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army

8 Jun 56 - The first American of record to die in Vietnam
was Air Force Tech Sergeant Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr.
His son, Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, died in Vietnam Sep 7, 1965.
8 Jun 56 Has been formally recognized by the Pentagon as the first American officially to die in that war.

5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina" 1956 The US believed in that Ho Chi Minh would have won any election held in Viet Nam and used their influence over the government of the State of Viet Nam to ensure that the election was not held




From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,

and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran.  For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers.  And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.






28 posted on 07/27/2005 9:10:26 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Do you like aqaruims? Then visit the jelly fish in the US Senate when in DC!)
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To: wingman1

Where was she when Clinton went into Kosovo????? Hypocrit I say .....


29 posted on 07/27/2005 9:20:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("It Is Better To Have Loved And Lost Than To Be Married To A Psycho For The Rest Of Your Life")
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To: CHARLITE

Still giving aid & comfort to our enemies.


30 posted on 07/27/2005 9:22:58 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: neverhome

ROTFL. Nooooo...Freepers are great people, nobody would have said you'd lost your mind.

And I did recognize it lol, but it was such a great pic it could have been a tunnel *anywhere*

thanks for the biggest laugh of the night I've had. :)

*puts paper in printer to print of pic*


31 posted on 07/27/2005 9:30:08 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SkyDancer

Fonda's problem is that she hates her country in spite of all that it has given her. She, like many misguided socialists, envisions a Utopian world in which everyone has roughly the same resources and opportunities.

Because her vision regards any form of competitive edge as being inherently evil she must also regard capitalism as evil. Odd, since capitalism has made her quite wealthy, and our military has kept her free to spend that wealth.

She is a pompous, self-important, and shortsighted woman who will go to her grave feeling unsatisfied because her goals of a socialist Utopia will never be realized.

One might overlook her actions as a youth and simply call it misguided idealism. But now? She's old enough to know better. The fact that she still doesn't get it tells us all just how disconnected she is from reality.

A lifetime is a terrible thing to waste.


32 posted on 07/27/2005 9:41:11 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: CHARLITE
Your term ''pitiful relic'' is far more appropriate and accurate than my ''irrelevant''. WELL said, and thanks!

GMTA, and all that, heh heh heh...

:^)

33 posted on 07/27/2005 9:47:37 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Shadowstrike
Okay... I don't wanna hijack an awesome thread, but go here when you get the notion.
The Godzilla World Tour

Best to all. It's past my bedtime. :)
34 posted on 07/27/2005 9:50:08 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: SkyDancer
"Where was she when Clinton went into Kosovo????? Hypocrit I say ....."

Brilliant observation, SkyDancer. Thanks for the thought. You're right. That ill-conceived adventure by Clinton didn't arouse Miz. Fonda's ire one bit.

Thanks for your comment. I wish I had thought of it myself!!

Char (:

35 posted on 07/27/2005 9:50:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: neverhome
"A lifetime is a terrible thing to waste."

She has a title for it. It's "MY LIFE, SO FAR.

Thanks, neverhome!

Char :)

36 posted on 07/27/2005 9:53:24 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

You are of course welcome. Thanks for an interesting post.

Hm... scary to think of anything about J/F being interesting.


37 posted on 07/27/2005 10:01:36 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: CHARLITE

Okay

Jane has the oil,

she's full of {Pi$$ and} vinegar

Who, oh who will bring tomatoes when she shows up?

A.A.C.

{thinking seriously about a tomato concession business following the "Red Jane rides again" freakshow...}


38 posted on 07/27/2005 11:17:09 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: CHARLITE

39 posted on 07/28/2005 6:00:26 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: CHARLITE

You're welcome .... seems that those idiots wear their liberal blinders when it comes to history.

Regards,
jane


40 posted on 07/28/2005 10:39:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("It Is Better To Have Loved And Lost Than To Be Married To A Psycho For The Rest Of Your Life")
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To: neverhome

I think that she's realizing she's (what?) 67 or so and nobody has been paying her any attention. I do belive that some Vietnam vets will be showing up where she does. I hope she comes to my town where there's plenty of P-O'd vets live. Maybe I'll show up wearing a Rush Limbaugh Gitmo t-shirt and hat .....

Regards,
Jane


41 posted on 07/28/2005 10:42:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("It Is Better To Have Loved And Lost Than To Be Married To A Psycho For The Rest Of Your Life")
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To: waylenjen

You and me both.


42 posted on 07/28/2005 10:44:23 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: CHARLITE
I don't think this old B!tch will ever regain her minority following.

Well of course little Dickey TurdBin, John Boy Kerry, Murdering Teddy Kennedy, Hellary Klinton, and others will probably want to take a ride on her Lard A$$ bus.

Anyone who would spend money on one of her books has way to much money and time on their hands.
43 posted on 07/28/2005 10:50:08 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: CHARLITE

Can't find the article right now but,

We had an inccident in Connecticut recently where a bear attacked one of those veggie oil cars. Seems that the smell attracted the critter and the bear basically destroyed the car.

Now, I won't say that this would be hystrical if it happened to Hanoi Jane......


44 posted on 07/28/2005 11:02:27 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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