Analysis: Muslim youth in US oppose terror

Middle East Times ^ | July 27, 2005 | Niko Kyriakou

[Prime Choice]

Muslim youth groups in the United States are addressing suspicions that the London bombers were both young and "homegrown" by ramping up anti-terrorism initiatives.

The young Muslims at Berkeley sure as hell had me convinced otherwise! Hell, had it been up to me, every last damned one of 'em would have been deported back to their "idyllic" hellhole nations.

[hineybona]

You're a fool then .

[King Prout]

to talk and to talk
is cheaper than cheap,
while the friends and the family
of the dead weep.

in the fullness of time
there may well come a day
when the sons of mohammed
the full bill shall pay.

Forebearance shall end
come late or come soon,
deliv'ring man-made sun-fire
on the Stone of the Moon.

if they keep it up,
then sooner or later
poor Abdullah shall pray
to a nuclear crater

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

I'll not call you names, not my style....

Here's the deal.

We've been invaded. Those that hate us are all around us.

They are very patient. That's their up-bringing.

Americans don't get it. We've better things to do.

We live for a good life.

They live to die and screw with you and me.

Time to wake up, fellow FR's.

[TheCrusader]

And all the young muslims in America stood up and condemned terrorism, then picked up their korans and danced happily back to class to study American history and culture. They learned to love and respect our Founding Fathers and our Western ideas of freedom. Then they peacefully melted into American cities and towns, where they lived happily ever-after amongst the Christians, Jews and other faiths, and became an integral part of America's communities, businesses and military. Then as their peaceful communities in America grew and grew, and their numbers became plentiful, and their mosques popped up in every city and town accross the U.S., they began listening to their mullahs and imams preach about the evils and sins of Christians and Jews, and how Western society was corrupting their Islamic values. And they believed. And they began............... you finish the story, I'm getting tired.

[tortoise]

On the other hand, a lot of the young muslims I've met in the US (including the women...) were basically atheists who rejected the religion of their parents and preferred western culture, all things being equal. Lacking insularity like they apparently have in Europe, the American culture is very seductive.

[sheik yerbouty]

Maybe they were concentrating on the stadium rather than the game..

[tiamat]

I agree, but it's never gonna happen!

[JayAr36]

Remeber they have an obligation to LIE to us infidels.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I just want to hear something more than, "It's taken out of context."!

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[ZULU]

"On the other hand, a lot of the young muslims I've met in the US (including the women...) were basically atheists .."

THAT'S not good.