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Brown Berets threaten Minutemen: Group urges group to think twice before patrolling
The Monitor / Brownsville Herald ^ | July 28, 2005 | Cari Hammerstrom

Posted on 07/28/2005 6:42:07 PM PDT by Main Street

PHARR, July 28, 2005 — Once a powerful and militant organization in the Chicano Liberation Movement, the Brown Berets made it known Wednesday that they will oppose the Minutemen border watch group with physical force if necessary.

“We want to send the message, ‘Think twice before you come here,’” Pablo Delgado, a Brown Beret leader, said at a press confer-ence at the Hidalgo County Democratic Party headquarters.

The Minutemen have said they will come to Texas in October, although it is still unclear whether South Texas is in their plans.

Hidalgo County Democratic Party Chairman Juan Maldonado said the party does not condone the actions of the Brown Berets; however, because the group asked him for a platform, he agreed to let them speak at the press conference.

“We do not need the Brown Berets armed against the Minutemen,” Maldonado reiterated after Delgado spoke. He said the people of South Texas are more “evolved” and “civil” than that.

The Brown Berets, primarily active in the late 1960s and early 1970s, are likened to the Black Panthers.

Further fueling the Brown Berets’ anger was the news of Bill Parmley’s resignation from the leadership post of the Texas chap-ter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Monday. Parmley claimed the Texas chapter lacked structure and members from his area near Goliad had “racist tendencies,” according to the Victoria Advocate.

News of possible racist tendencies couldn’t have come at a better time for the local opponents of the civilian border patrol.

The Minutemen “are nothing more than a group of zealous over-enthusiastic racists that want to promote these types of immi-grants as being terroristic,” Maldonado said.

Even before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Sept. 11, 2001, he said, there was an unfounded fear held by some in the United States that Mexicans were taking over the country.

“For all the strides that we have made toward equality, the Minutemen are the epitome of hate, fear and ignorance,” he said. “We are unified to stop this racist movement from entering our region.”

“When will they begin patrolling the Canadian border?” asked Juanita Valdez-Cox, state director of La Union del Pueblo Entero. According to the project’s official Web site, www.minutemanhq.com, the answer is soon. Volunteers to patrol the United State’s northern border with Canada are being recruited.

Cox claims southern border patrolling is a race issue. The “vigilantes of the Caucasian persuasion” don’t want legalization for immigrants. They want the Mexican workers to be at the mercy of employers, she said.

At the end of the press conference, Maldonado was the first to sign a petition denouncing the border watchers. The Democratic Party plans to send the petition to Gov. Rick Perry to get him to do the same.

The petition also points out the need for more money to hire Border Patrol agents, a point deputy Mexican consulate Ernesto Herrera touched on privately with reporters after the conference.

“It isn’t in the scope of the private citizen to do the job of the government,” Herrera said. “The Mexican government thinks the U.S. has the institution, the department in charge of protecting the border. … They (the Border Patrol) know the limits. They know that everybody, undocumented or not, has human rights. It’s not something you leave behind when you cross the border.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; boarders; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasion; law; minutemen
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1 posted on 07/28/2005 6:42:08 PM PDT by Main Street
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To: Main Street
e Hidalgo County Democratic Party headquarters

Democrat goon squads in action.

2 posted on 07/28/2005 6:43:49 PM PDT by csvset
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To: HiJinx

For your list?


3 posted on 07/28/2005 6:44:21 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Main Street

Next....coming to a border state near you:

THE PINK BERETS !!!


4 posted on 07/28/2005 6:44:36 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Main Street

Fabulous.

What do you want to bet that one of these Brown Beret idiots will try to provoke something down there?

I, for one, wouldn't be surprised.


5 posted on 07/28/2005 6:45:32 PM PDT by exnavychick (Whom the gods would destroy they first make chads.)
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To: Main Street
“When will they begin patrolling the Canadian border?” asked Juanita Valdez-Cox, state director of La Union del Pueblo Entero.

I forget ... how many illegal Canadians are demanding we speak french in our schools?

6 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:14 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Main Street

Keep your powder dry boys, the 2nd American Civil War is about to begin.


7 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:21 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Main Street

I'm sending the Brown Berets a message. No one is afraid of you thugs. Get the hell out of the country, if you don't like people exercising their freedom without violence and coercion.


8 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Main Street

So now we're going to have the Red Berets show up to oppose those opposing the Minutemen, and then the REAL Red Berets, who are going to oppose those who oppose those who are opposing illegal immigration in the name of the free flow of their socialist brothers north, and then there'll be so many people on the boarder that it will have the effect the Minutemen intended in the first place.


9 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call UBL guilty without a trial, but thinks DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: Main Street

"the Brown Berets made it known Wednesday that they will oppose the Minutemen border watch group with physical force if necessary."

Texans urge brown berets to think twice before using physical force against them in texas.

I think "he needed shootin'" is still considered a valide defense.


10 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:58 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: Main Street

Wow, I was optimistic when I thought it would turn out to be us vs the rest of the world. Turns out it is going to be two thirds of us vs the rest of the world.


11 posted on 07/28/2005 6:47:23 PM PDT by riri
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To: Main Street
Cox claims southern border patrolling is a race issue. The “vigilantes of the Caucasian persuasion” don’t want legalization for immigrants. They want the Mexican workers to be at the mercy of employers, she said.

Actually they just want someone to uphold the law.

12 posted on 07/28/2005 6:48:27 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Main Street

Them Chicanos don't like people interfering with their jihad for special U.S. Govt. rights, including tax-free employment, food stamps (because they show no income when their salaries are cash under-the-table), and free healthcare. Their aim is to invade, infiltrate government, and set up apartheid. Guess who the whipping boy is?


13 posted on 07/28/2005 6:48:50 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Main Street
"The Minutemen “are nothing more than a group of zealous over-enthusiastic racists that want to promote these types of immigrants as being terroristic,” Maldonado said."

Isn't the "Brown Berets" a racist organization who want to take back the America SouthWest for "brown people"??
14 posted on 07/28/2005 6:49:04 PM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: Main Street

He makes a threat on U.S. citizens from Democratic HQ? Are you freaking kidding me?


15 posted on 07/28/2005 6:50:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

let's roll....


16 posted on 07/28/2005 6:50:02 PM PDT by injin (Stay Angry !)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

"Cox claims southern border patrolling is a race issue. The “vigilantes of the Caucasian persuasion” don’t want legalization for immigrants. They want the Mexican workers to be at the mercy of employers, she said."


Is it me or is that one twisted comment?


17 posted on 07/28/2005 6:50:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: popdonnelly

a couple of warning shots over the brown bandits' berets and maybe they will cease.


18 posted on 07/28/2005 6:51:35 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers.)
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To: cripplecreek

"Cox claims southern border patrolling is a race issue. The “vigilantes of the Caucasian persuasion” don’t want legalization for immigrants. They want the Mexican workers to be at the mercy of employers, she said."


Is it me or is that one twisted comment?



that was a moron talking. It sounds worse in Mexican.


19 posted on 07/28/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers.)
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To: Main Street
"When will they begin patrolling the Canadian border?”

Soon Juanita,it's in the works.

20 posted on 07/28/2005 6:52:40 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Main Street
“For all the strides that we have made toward equality, the Minutemen are the epitome of hate, fear and ignorance,” he said. “We are unified to stop this racist movement from entering our region.”

Hate, fear, ignorance, racism... Boiler-plate buzzwords against citizens who want their borders respected and protected, and immigrants to follow the same laws many of us had/have to.

21 posted on 07/28/2005 6:52:42 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: cripplecreek

Sounds like a terrorist.


22 posted on 07/28/2005 6:53:03 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: doug from upland

From the Dem HQ. Incredible, isn't it?

Wake up Freepers, Wake UP America!!!


23 posted on 07/28/2005 6:54:26 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Main Street

"Hidalgo County Democratic Party Chairman Juan Maldonado said the party does not condone the actions of the Brown Berets; however, because the group asked him for a platform, he agreed to let them speak at the press conference. "

So if the Minutemen asked for a platform, Juan would let them speak at his next press conference?


24 posted on 07/28/2005 6:54:33 PM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Main Street

O.K. President bush, who is the vigilante NOW???

The MMP= peacful enforecment of laws to protect the USA because you won't do it.

The brown beret= threats of premeditated physical violence.

I know who I will side with.


25 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:13 PM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: Main Street
That's only Texas. Here in New Mexico, there is only one FReeper Minuteman--c'est moi. The rest of NM's FReepers are all mouth, down to the ankles. Y'all c'mon down to Columbus on Tuesday, 9am, intersection of SR-11 and SR-9, and treat yourselves to a real good hand-wringing session.

From a safe distance, of course.

26 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:18 PM PDT by tailgunner (US freeholders are ALL squatters now!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
LOL THE PINK BERETS !!! This will be terrifying for both Brown Berets & Minutemen... Ehhh What about this? French Beret
27 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:41 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: Main Street
>> they will oppose the Minutemen border watch group with physical force if necessary.

Boy o boy, this is gonna be a nice one.

Hopefully the msm can fan the flames and get everyone on both sides in the region involved.

Too bad the federals will not do their job, then this could all be avoided.
28 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:52 PM PDT by mmercier (all God's creatures)
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To: Cougar66

I have never supported the MM simply because this was bound to happen. That said, I hope to hell those that are there know how to take of themselves because these "brown berets" are very militant and they WILL hurt someone if given half a chance. I have been impressed with the MM organization in that they have kept to their original promise not to be vigilantes but they now face real danger.


29 posted on 07/28/2005 6:58:51 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Main Street
This much is certain: People along the border where the Minutemen held their watch appreciated the peaceful month it gave them. In a half-page ad in the Sunday Sierra Vista Herald local residents told them: "Thanks for doing what our government won't... close the border to illegal aliens. It was the quietest month we've had in many years... you made us feel safe."
30 posted on 07/28/2005 7:00:21 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Main Street

The Brown Berets are wrong about the job of the private citizen - of course it is our duty to maintain order.

Another mistake is their identification with their "brown-ness." Their attitude is a mark of prejudice if anything is. Your heritage is out of your control, as is mine. Neither of us should judge or limit - or empower - you because of who your parents were.

Each of us, at least in the United States, has equal rights from our own creation - not from our parents' or grandparents' origins.

If Mr. Brown Beret wants to aide immigrants, there are legal ways to sponsor them. Of couse, Beret would have to own property and/or a business and be able to support not only himself, but the immigrant....


31 posted on 07/28/2005 7:02:30 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US www. LifeEthics.org)
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To: Main Street
The New Communist Movement

Activist in the Chicano Movement who had been attracted to that movement's left wing (the Crusade for Justice, Brown Berets, La Raza Unida Party) and helped to form the August 29th Movement (ATM), the first primarily Chicano communist organization in the US.

Mr. Chuch of KPFA La Onda Bajita, Youth and Power Conference 2004.

Chicano Mexicano Prison Project - Conference on Raza Prisoners and Colonialism

Justice And Liberation! Not Incarceration!

32 posted on 07/28/2005 7:02:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: csvset
the Brown Berets made it known Wednesday that they will oppose the Minutemen border watch group with physical force if necessary.

Whoo HOO!!! Showdown!

33 posted on 07/28/2005 7:03:49 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Main Street

Mr. Bush has been accused of many things, Mostly its BS,.
But the fact remains Mr Bush s stance on immigration has brought about the minutemen, has allowed for illegals to run rampoant over the southwest, has allowed ilegals to walk away from police in every state. If trouble come up between mionutemen and Brown berets, in many ways it will be Bush's fault.


34 posted on 07/28/2005 7:04:58 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: kcvl

yea, they look real tough...
36 posted on 07/28/2005 7:07:59 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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Let's see now, Bush and the Administration said there would be no vigilanteism when it came to illegals crossing the border (although the Minutemen have bent over backwards to be law abiding and even avoid contact with the illegals...Yet, Bush's ininuation was intentional, to brand the people attempting to help our border patrol do their job with a slur.

Now, I'm sure Bush will be all over the militant chicano groups threatening American citizens with vigililante acts.

(chirp, chirp chirp)


38 posted on 07/28/2005 7:08:44 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Happy2BMe

Ping list material?


39 posted on 07/28/2005 7:08:51 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Main Street
Just place some bottles of tequila in their path along with some bean tortillas, they will be passed out in a matter of minutes.
40 posted on 07/28/2005 7:08:59 PM PDT by Nazarene (Keep on coming, I'll keep reloading!!)
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To: Main Street

Closer ever closer comes the Social War!


41 posted on 07/28/2005 7:10:20 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: doug from upland

Hey Doug, down here in San Diego there is a first
group of Min. Men and the Mexicans have left the
welfare line long enough to do their thing at the
border. There have also been gun shots.


42 posted on 07/28/2005 7:10:25 PM PDT by SoCalPol (More Died At Chappaquiddic than Guantanamo)
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To: Echo Talon
Whoo HOO!!! Showdown!

I wouldn't get too excited. Those thugs in MS-13 said the same thing back in April.
43 posted on 07/28/2005 7:10:45 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Nazarene

These wanabes don't know what they're getting into with the Minutemen. Most of them are either Ex or retired military, and if these swimmers want to try force with them, they're in for miles and miles of bad road.


44 posted on 07/28/2005 7:12:16 PM PDT by Smashed
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To: Nazarene
Just place some bottles of tequila in their path along with some bean tortillas, they will be passed out in a matter of minutes.

You'll catch more than illegals. There's a small crowd of Viva Mexico white Americans down that way, too. Bush haters, naturally.
45 posted on 07/28/2005 7:13:51 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Smashed

It also may be a little dangerous (for some of them) to be hanging around the border where your green card maybe requested. lol


46 posted on 07/28/2005 7:14:04 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Main Street
“It isn’t in the scope of the private citizen to do the job of the government,” Herrera said.

The Minutemen are not doing the governments job. They are peacefully assembling and reporting crime to the proper authorities when they witnessed.

They know that everybody, undocumented or not, has human rights. It’s not something you leave behind when you cross the border.”

Just what human rights are the Minutemen denying the illegal aliens? The right to unlawfully enter the United States and apply for welfare? Or maybe the right to illegally enter the United States and have your baby at the expense of the tax paying citizens of California or Arizona.

I haven’t read the Constitution for a year or so but I can’t for the life of me remember these rights enumerate in this remarkable document.

I haven’t read Mexico’s Constitution, it must be in there.

47 posted on 07/28/2005 7:14:45 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: SoCalPol
MIDI - CALIFORNIA DREAMIN'

Half a million more…just sneaked in today
I called INS…to see what they’d say
They said they're not worried…it will all be okay
California’s screamin’…why aren’t they sent away

I went to a store…I go to everyday
And I couldn’t understand…a word the clerks would say
Please tell me what is going on…do it without delay
California’s screamin’…why aren’t they sent away

(musical interlude)

Gangs are in the streets…everywhere I go
While La Raza screams…”This is Mexico!”
I am really startled…I am in dismay
California’s screamin’…why aren’t they sent away
Why aren't they sent away…why aren't the sent away


48 posted on 07/28/2005 7:15:25 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Main Street
...the Minutemen are the epitome of hate, fear and ignorance...

Sadly, there are people in Texas stupid enough to believe this.

49 posted on 07/28/2005 7:16:00 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Cougar66

"They want the Mexican workers to be at the mercy of employers, she said."

Actually, we want to control who comes across our borders, just like most other countries in the World. But unlike other countries, when we do this, we are accused of being racist. No one has any problem with Mexicans coming into the country legally, and if they did so, they wouldn't be exploited by employers.


50 posted on 07/28/2005 7:16:02 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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