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Pieces of the puzzle of the London Bombings
07282005 | self

Posted on 07/29/2005 10:48:45 AM PDT by kralcmot

I have collected two articles and combined them with a simple search on the internet, and report the results to you for your comments.

this is a vanity, so the sources are listed here, and not in the title block

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/27/luton.bombs/

this is a CNN article from yesterday that shows the pictures of some "jar bombs" found in the trunk of a car several days after the first london bombing. these pictures have been posted on several threads here on FR.

the pictures can be viewed on the right sidebar adjacent to the article.

http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/162155.html

the above link takes you to an internet article on the construction of "acetone peroxide detonators." the reason i went to this web page is that an article in the Belfast Telegraph today (dated tomorrow)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=654560

this article contains the sentence:

The devices, consisting of acetone peroxide packed into jam jars wrapped with a band of metal, were found in a car rented by the suicide bomber Shahzad Tanweer. It was left at the car park of Luton railway station

and that is why i searched for acetone peroxide.

so, putting the pieces together, we have the stash of bombs in the trunk of a car, where the terrorists can retrieve them as they wish. but the bomb maker did not get good instructions, for, the article on the "acetone peroxide detonators" clearly states:

...."These detonators should be used within 7 days of their manufacture and should be stored in a cool, dry place. .." probably not good to keep them in the trunk of a car.....we have to presume that the terrorist bomb maker made a bunch of these devices, then put them in the trunk of a car, parked somewhere the others could retrieve them as needed....but the mixture was degraded by the passage of time and the heat of the sun....thus explaining why the second attack two week after the first resulted in only partial detonations.....perhaps the bomb maker did not read the instructions on the internet that i copied for you.....

so that is my understanding of what the bombs were, where they were stored, and why the second attack failed.

i am not clear, however on whether these "jar bombs" were detonators for more explosives worn on the suicide bombers themselves, or if they were the entire package.

i am not able to monitor this thread today, but i hope you will accept this vanity and offer your theories and comments anyway


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bombinstructions; bombpictures; omg

1 posted on 07/29/2005 10:48:45 AM PDT by kralcmot
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To: kralcmot
......some 'tests' fail?

that's why they are 'tests'......?

/diversions

2 posted on 07/29/2005 10:57:11 AM PDT by maestro
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To: kralcmot
Thank you. This is the first explanation for what happened that really makes sense. You have put the pieces together that helps explain the deaths caused by the 7/7 London bombing and how the same group looked like bumbling idiots two weeks later when they tried it again.

Simple chemistry is the answer.

Don't get me wrong, it would have been far better for the first group to have had duds as well.

P.S. But remember ...that is why i searched for acetone peroxide. has probably been recorded by some NSA computer and your Internet traffic will likely be monitored for quite a while. So, behave yourself!

3 posted on 07/29/2005 11:04:58 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: kralcmot

I guess the authors wanted to mentor the terrorists and help them by correcting their mistakes. How selfless of these reporters./sarc


4 posted on 07/29/2005 11:05:56 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Robert357

what i don't get is why the first group were suicide bombers and the second group apparently was not. so i am cautious about thinking that both sets of bombs were the same....


5 posted on 07/29/2005 11:13:10 AM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: kralcmot

"what i don't get is why the first group were suicide bombers and the second group apparently was not. so i am cautious about thinking that both sets of bombs were the same...."

Yeah, this is exactly the first thing that struck me odd...

I guess a lot depends on what type of fuses they were using, I thought I saw pictures of a couple devices that had what looked to me like waterproof firecracker fuses, Nit the ones in the car trunk though, the x-ray clearly showed wires.


6 posted on 07/29/2005 5:43:27 PM PDT by Capn TrVth
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