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Houston Muslims Denounce Terrorism
Click2Houston.com ^ | July 29, 2005

Posted on 07/29/2005 11:56:15 PM PDT by Bayou City

HOUSTON -- Houston-area Islamic groups joined a nationwide campaign to denounce terrorism, Local 2 reported Friday.

The public service announcements hit the airwaves Thursday. The campaign is called "Not in the Name of Islam."

CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, released it to build understanding.

"Muslims are not only victims of the terrorists attacks but also have to deal with the stigmatization of being blamed for the heinous crimes of a minuscule minority." Said Rodwan Saleh, with the Islamic Society of Greater Houston.

Houston's Islamic leaders joined together to applaud a religious ruling against terrorism and religious extremism.

"We want to let all of Houston citizens know that we stand behind peace and justice and we are absolutely against any terrorism or any terrorism actions in this city." Saleh said.

Nearly 1 million people around the country have signed a petition supporting American Muslims.

"The terrorists actions are not in the name of Islam and Muslims do not want their religion seized by criminals, said Kaleem Siddiqui, with CAIR Houston. "They commit these acts cowardly and they call themselves Muslims. We absolutely condemn that and oppose it."

Houston was recently rated the No. 1 city in the country by the Vera Institute for police having good relationships with the Arabic and Muslim community.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; houston; muslim; muslimamericans; terroist; texas
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1 posted on 07/29/2005 11:56:15 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Bayou City

Good. Seen hundreds of these condemnations from Muslims. Why is the media ignoring it?


2 posted on 07/29/2005 11:58:08 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Bayou City


Maybe.


4 posted on 07/30/2005 12:01:08 AM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: texasborderhunt

Then you supposed CAIR?


5 posted on 07/30/2005 12:01:51 AM PDT by LAURENTIJ
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To: Bayou City

Some actions along with the words would help.


6 posted on 07/30/2005 12:02:07 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: LAURENTIJ

support that is.


7 posted on 07/30/2005 12:02:35 AM PDT by LAURENTIJ
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To: texasborderhunt

Savage is about the biggest moron on earth.


8 posted on 07/30/2005 12:03:05 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
"Savage is about the biggest moron on earth."

I think he's just a shrewd businessman who knows how to play to his audience.

9 posted on 07/30/2005 12:04:18 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: freedom44
Good. Seen hundreds of these condemnations from Muslims. Why is the media ignoring it?

Because it doesn't fit their agenda of keeping this war going so they can make the Bush Administration look hamstrung.

Muslims denouncing terror does not add to the "quagmire" concept the MSM just loves to purport.

10 posted on 07/30/2005 12:06:08 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: freedom44

Edit that "about" and you'll be there. :)


11 posted on 07/30/2005 12:06:45 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: Bayou City

Can't hurt, but they should stay away from CAIR. And it was the Texas CAIR dude that got busted for terrorist related crimes..


12 posted on 07/30/2005 12:08:01 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Allegra

I'm an Iranian-American devout Christian i've been around Muslims my entire life. Most of them are great people - they don't support terrorism and they love freedom and liberty and the US at least Iranian Muslims.

I guess it's hard for people like Savage to understand.


13 posted on 07/30/2005 12:09:23 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: Bayou City

If CAIR is releasing this then I don't believe it for a minute.


14 posted on 07/30/2005 12:15:16 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Bayou City
Talk is cheap...
Lies are condoned in the Koran -- to protect Muslims from the Infidel.
Deception is a tool of the weak, to avoid detection....

Muslims in the Free World, must do a hell of a lot more than "condemn" terrorism, especially since they don't always clearly DEFINE terrorism.

Muslims must get a lot more active in squeezing out the puss that is the Jihadist, or the entire body will ultimately be destroyed.

Semper Fi
15 posted on 07/30/2005 12:18:12 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: freedom44
Most of them are great people - they don't support terrorism and they love freedom and liberty and the US at least Iranian Muslims.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm in Iraq where I've been for the last year and a half and I have met some of the most wonderful people here - Sunnis, Shiites and Christians. The media distorts and lies about the situation here. It's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be.

I am also strongly pulling for freedom in Iran.

16 posted on 07/30/2005 12:18:47 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: texasborderhunt
Did you hear Savage today? He really blasted this message sent out by the CAIR and it really made me realize that Savage is merely in the entertainment business.


The statement by CAIR is a pack of lies and should be blasted by every American. Did Cair happen to mention the name of Osama Bin Ladin? Did they issue a fatwa against him?

No.

What they say is useless. Of course everybody thinks terrorism is bad.

Shall we compare. - A Mr. Rushdie wrote a book.

Ayatollah Khomeini, proclaiming the book a work of blasphemy, condemned Rushdie to death for "insulting Islam, the prophet Muhammed and the holy Koran."

Eager followers put a bounty on Rushdie's head, adding riches to what Khomeini had already guaranteed as a place in heaven for the successful assassin.

Notice khomenini didn't just proclaim and condemn the book, or condemn blasphemous books, he used NAMES.

LET CAIR DO TO OSAMA WHAT KHOMEINI DID TO RUSHDIE.
17 posted on 07/30/2005 12:21:07 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Bayou City

I'll believe it when they start naming names.


18 posted on 07/30/2005 12:21:16 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Bayou City
Don't be fooled by this group of terrorist in sheep's clothing.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/
19 posted on 07/30/2005 12:34:38 AM PDT by msnimje
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To: Bayou City

Muhammad was the first Muslim terrorist/murderer/butcher/assassin. Can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.


20 posted on 07/30/2005 12:35:26 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: TomasUSMC
LET CAIR DO TO OSAMA WHAT KHOMEINI DID TO RUSHDIE.

This is TRUE. What CAIR says is said with fingers crossed behind the back. Muslim statements which condemn "terrorism" in general DO NOT CONSIDER ATTACKS AGAINST THE U.S. AND ESPECIALLY ISRAEL TO BE TERRORISM! Every representative I have heard in the last several days has rigidly refused to be specific. Beware the corruption of language. Muslims are better at it than communists ever were.

21 posted on 07/30/2005 12:45:11 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Bayou City
CONDEMN THIS!

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
22 posted on 07/30/2005 12:47:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: river rat

Lets not be so quick to debunk it. DIscect it and if it is BS sure, but to discredit/debunk it prematurely may give fuel to the jihadists cause. Whatever we may think of that religion, Whatever it says about itself, if there are elements trying to stop the insanity, then they are the best ally we have in the fight, and may be more valuable to the cause of fighting terrorism than a dozen army divisions or the entire DHS...


23 posted on 07/30/2005 1:04:00 AM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Bayou City

Wow. Lip service way after the fact.

We can't go on demanding they "condemn" terrorism, they must participate in stopping it.


24 posted on 07/30/2005 1:55:32 AM PDT by Solamente
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To: Schwaeky
"Lets not be so quick to debunk it."

Quick!
Hell, -- we've got CENTURIES of history recorded, where the Muslim has been constant in ONE regard --- VIOLENCE, EXPANSION and more VIOLENCE...

The world has been too patient..
Time for Muslims to define, refine, reform and prepare themselves to coexist with civilizaton or their own extinction...

Semper Fi

25 posted on 07/30/2005 1:59:51 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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How many of us were outraged by the "deafening silence" from the Muslim community after 9/11?

Now they are speaking out. Why does everyone have a problem with that?

We have had no attacks here in the US since 9/11. Surely if all of the American Muslims don't mean it then we would have had more attacks?

Look, every time I see an Arab I think about terrorists and 9/11. I'm immediately suspicious of them as I'm sure most people here are. I can't help it. The fact is though, most Muslims are ok people and love the USA just as much as the rest of us and are just as much against terrorist attacks here as the rest of us. I have to remind myself of that every time I see an Arab-looking person.

The ones that aren't ok have virtually no support in this country, even from the Muslim community.

Not all Arabs and Muslims are terrorists. Not all support terrorism. Those that do are very few in number in this country.

It's just wrong to lump them all together. Flame away.


26 posted on 07/30/2005 2:04:28 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX (just southeast of Houston))
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To: river rat

"Talk is cheap..."

Agreed. Too little too late. So much time has passed since 9/11 with little or no outcry from them that why trust their sincerity now? I think what is said in public to please us and in private among themselves are two entirely differant things. Talk is very cheap indeed.


27 posted on 07/30/2005 2:06:27 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Miztiki
It's just wrong to lump them all together. Flame away.

Thank you. I get so tired of the foaming-at-the-mouth "all Muslims are evil terrorists" rants on here. I'll admit to having the suspicions too but that's just the survival instinct kicking in.

Tarring all Muslims with the terrorist brush just demonstrates ignorance, IMO.

P.S. I lived in Pearland a few years back. ;-)

28 posted on 07/30/2005 2:11:02 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Schwaeky

It's bullsh*t..I done need to examine it any further.CARE is a serious Anti American group with ties to VERY shadey characters . Their involvement along make it all bull.Moslems must name names , police their own , turn in dangerous people .Let's hear one, kust one say they condem Osama ..Well...(sounds of crickets )..Case closed


29 posted on 07/30/2005 2:17:53 AM PDT by hineybona
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To: Allegra

They are FINALLY speaking out against terrorism because the heat is getting turned up on them lately and they see they could be in for a hard time.They also see the general public getting fed up with their bull and they're getting a little nervous. Anyone with any street smarts knows the game. "Hey ,I'm not with those guys , I condem what they do " Yea, sure.


30 posted on 07/30/2005 2:21:31 AM PDT by hineybona
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To: Allegra
Then count me in as ignorant. All Muslim's may not be active terrorist, but if they are true to their teaching, then in their hearts it is kill the infidel.
31 posted on 07/30/2005 2:56:46 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Bayou City

I will be impressed when they start denouncing islam.


32 posted on 07/30/2005 2:59:30 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: mariabush
Then count me in as ignorant. All Muslim's...

OK. You asked me to. And the apostrophe used on a plural makes it oh, so much easier to do so.

I work and live among Muslims. I speak from experience, not from things I read in the New York Times.

33 posted on 07/30/2005 3:16:15 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: hineybona
Anyone with any street smarts knows the game.

I've got Baghdad "street smarts." I've been here for a year and a half now. I've also spent time in Dubai, Amman and Kuwait.

What do you have? Hmmmmmmm?

34 posted on 07/30/2005 3:19:03 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: E Rocc

Thought you'd be interested in the comments from some "Class of 2004" winners just above. ;-)


35 posted on 07/30/2005 3:20:28 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Bayou City
Words and deeds. Start killing terrorists.
36 posted on 07/30/2005 3:29:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Bayou City

Not buying it. I heard the audio on the radio, it has the typical "CAIR clause" 'we condemn all terrorism by all religeons' Yeah, all those other religeons practicing terrorism, right, sure.


37 posted on 07/30/2005 4:19:22 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: Bayou City

I thought at first this was a good start but one needs only to read between the lines to know it's just a red hearing.

CAIRS campaign is called "Not in the Name of Islam"

Why didn't they instead say not in the name of America.

Or not in the name of whats decent and right.

Or not in the name of humanity.

No they could care less how many infidels get killed it's just they don't like all the bad publicity.


38 posted on 07/30/2005 4:24:38 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Bayou City

Right, since it's a virtue to deceive infidels, it is just as likely a ploy to buy time.


39 posted on 07/30/2005 4:32:22 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Allegra

We have had experience with Muslim's as well. I do not read the NYT. I am not sparing with you. This is just my opinion.

Maybe when a person has been attacked personally in the name of Allah, then one might have a jaded view.


40 posted on 07/30/2005 4:46:31 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: freedom44
Good. Seen hundreds of these condemnations from Muslims. Why is the media ignoring it?

Because it's good news?

41 posted on 07/30/2005 4:46:41 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Bayou City

It's hard to believe that the Muslims in Houston didn't know that there was a terrorist-backing charity in Dallas funneling money to the jihadists. I don't trust them.


42 posted on 07/30/2005 4:51:28 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Allegra
Allegra wrote: to hineybona:
I've got Baghdad "street smarts." I've been here for a year and a half now. I've also spent time in Dubai, Amman and Kuwait.
What do you have? Hmmmmmmm?


I would imagine that Danny Pearl thought he had street smarts and that Muslims were a peaceful people/religion but he paid the ultimate price for that misguided mistake.

Just because your working for the bucks in Iraq and seem to like Muslim countries doesn't necessarily mean your that much more intelligent about what many Muslims would like to do to infidels.

I also have worked and traveled extensively over seas and from a mans stand point I can tell you the Muslim men who have worked or lived in America like to sit in forbidden hotel bars and brag about their exploits with American women.
43 posted on 07/30/2005 4:52:33 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: mariabush
Maybe when a person has been attacked personally in the name of Allah, then one might have a jaded view.

I've lost friends to terrorists. I've had a couple of very close calls myself. Close enough to get my heart rate up pretty high and to tremble for quite some time afterward.

Don't get me wrong; I hate terrorists. Loathe and detest them.

My point is that you can't say all Muslims are evil just because all of the terrorists are Muslims. The Muslims I know well are just regular people and they hate the terrorists as much as we do.

44 posted on 07/30/2005 4:52:38 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: OKIEDOC
2004.

I can tell without even looking.

I'd correct your grammar, but I don't have time. I will suggest that when you want to challenge someone's intelligence, you might want to make sure you understand simple rules like the difference between "your" and "you're."

You're making assumptions. Read the "street smarts" comment to which I was responding and you may see why I used that phrase.

Those who make assumptions based on little information aren't really worth any more of my time than this.

Buh-bye. Have a nice day.

45 posted on 07/30/2005 4:58:57 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Allegra

I hope so, and that they hate the terrorist more than the infidel.


46 posted on 07/30/2005 5:02:23 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: freedom44

I think these actions by Muslims condemning killers who use their religion for evil purposes is a good thing.

It should be given more coverage by the media and encouraged.


47 posted on 07/30/2005 5:02:26 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: mariabush
mariabush wrote:
Maybe when a person has been attacked personally in the name of Allah, then one might have a jaded view.

REPLY:

Same here.

After 9-11 I was living in a foreign country.

Had it not been for some brave Catholic Colombian countrymen coming to my defense, I would not be here to day posting on this site.

I was attacked by 10 club wielding immigrant Syrians yelling kill the infidel and Osama is great.

A garage owner and four of his employees grabbed tire irons and came to my rescue.

The Syrians ran like scared rats when the odds evened up somewhat.

So from a personal stand point I learned the hard way not to trust Muslims on face value.

Many people do not realize the number of Middle Eastern immigrants that are flooding the countries of South America.
48 posted on 07/30/2005 5:09:28 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Allegra

So thats your excuse for being a smart a$$ little know it all.


49 posted on 07/30/2005 5:16:05 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: OKIEDOC
Brilliant response.

Downright thought-provoking. Polite and well-mannered, too.

Gosh, I know when I've been bested by a genius.

{snicker!}

50 posted on 07/30/2005 5:20:41 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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