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LAND FIGHT HITS HOME FOR JUSTICE (Libertarians to seize USSC Breyer's vacation home for park)
NY POST ^ | July 30, 2005 | AP

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:52:24 AM PDT by Liz

PLAINFIELD, N.H. — Libertarians upset about a Supreme Court ruling on taking land have proposed seizing a justice's vacation home and turning it into a park.

Signatures are being collected for a petition to ask the town to use Justice Stephen Breyer's 167-acre Plainfield, N.H., property to create a "Constitution Park" with stone monuments to commemorate the U.S. and New Hampshire constitutions, said party Vice Chairman Mike Lorrey.

...........Lorrey told the Valley News. "This is a way of saying, 'You're going to be held to your own standard.' "

Lorrey said the Libertarian petition would place the land-taking request before a town meeting next spring. But Plainfield Town Administrator Steve Halleran said yesterday that he didn't expect voters to support the effort.

The Libertarian Party objects to the high court's June ruling that let New London, Conn., take land by eminent domain and turn it over to a private developer.

Breyer supported the decision, as did Justice David Souter. Earlier this month, a member of the libertarian Free State Project suggested that the town of Weare, about 45 miles southeast of Plainfield, make Souter's home into a "Lost Liberty Hotel."

The Supreme Court's 5-4 court ruling said municipalities have broad power to bulldoze people's homes and put up shopping malls or other private development to generate tax revenue.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: constitutionpark; eminentdomain; kelo; landgrab; libertarians; stephenbreyer

1 posted on 07/30/2005 5:52:25 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Good. 3 more justices to go. Its a shame they didnt only have 1 home apiece.


2 posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:03 AM PDT by IronChefSakai (Life, Liberty, and Limited Government!)
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To: Liz

Way to go, LP!


3 posted on 07/30/2005 5:58:24 AM PDT by LRS
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To: Liz
Libertarians upset about a Supreme Court ruling on taking land have proposed seizing a justice's vacation home and turning it into a park.

It would fit the Kelo criteria much better if it were converted to a shopping mall or a Wal-Mart rather than a park since tax revenue will be much higher from a commercial entity. Arguing for a park seems to me quixotic at best.

4 posted on 07/30/2005 6:06:03 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

I would imagine any plan would have to comport with uses for the land that are most amenable to approval.


5 posted on 07/30/2005 6:18:32 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: snowsislander
Arguing for a park seems to me quixotic at best.

Maybe they should propose building a National Gay and Lesbian Recreational Area on the property; if nothing else, we'd get to watch Breyer either acquiesce or get vilified by his progressive fans.

6 posted on 07/30/2005 6:19:44 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: edskid
"Maybe they should propose building a National Gay and Lesbian Recreational Area on the property"

They could call it:

"The Justice Breyer Sodomy and Turkey Baster Institute."

7 posted on 07/30/2005 6:37:29 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Liz

They would make a better case if they wanted a hotel


8 posted on 07/30/2005 6:42:00 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Liz

Anyone have the petition site? TIA!!


9 posted on 07/30/2005 6:53:07 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: Enterprise
Whatever they wish to call it, someone needs to get the high disposable income, urban, alternative lifestyle set on board- the press would suck up to them, the 'rats would bend over for them, and Justice Breyer would end up either an "inclusive hero" without his property or a "judgmental homophobe" with his property. Couldn't happen to a nicer plutocrat.

The Kelo angle - money, money, and more money - doesn't rule out anything. Heck, make it a niche-market Six-F(l)ags knockoff- put in a rollercoaster called "The Judge." Why, the concessions alone would be a gold mine. Think of all those Subarus in the lot wearing "Get strapped into the Judge" bumperstickers, and languid young men in muscle shirts emblazoned "I got on the Judge and I stayed on the Judge."

10 posted on 07/30/2005 7:02:08 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: Smile-n-Win

PING


11 posted on 07/30/2005 7:14:41 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: edskid

They can get a special ice cream made and call it "Breyers Fudge Pack."


12 posted on 07/30/2005 7:49:53 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Enterprise

Oh man, that is rude!


13 posted on 07/30/2005 7:52:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: edskid
I like the idea of a Wal-Mart. It would show how the leftist Supremes put corporate interests ahead of the rights of ordinary people. Another possibility is to put up a shopping mall.

Or they could go "diverse" and have nightclubs and gay bars, stores that sell liquor, etc. Maybe a bar for gay males and another bar for lesbians and a liquor store for the homeless people. Homeless drunks would be pissing everywhere, gay transgendered-looking males would be prancing around making use (wink, wink) of public restrooms and burly lesbians would be having fights everywhere.

14 posted on 07/30/2005 8:02:37 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell
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To: Rebelbase
The lesbians can have a mexican food concession. They can call it:

"I Love My Vagina Tacos."

15 posted on 07/30/2005 8:04:47 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Liz

BTTT

I'm loving it!

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!


16 posted on 07/30/2005 8:06:41 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: Nightshift

ping


17 posted on 07/30/2005 8:08:25 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

They could sell their own brand of fun trading cards called "Poke-A-Man."


18 posted on 07/30/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Or how about a "Butt Pirates of the Caribbean" ride.


19 posted on 07/30/2005 8:17:41 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Liz
Hoist on your own petard ping.

I just recently learned what a "petard" is/was.
20 posted on 07/30/2005 8:18:09 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Enterprise
They can get a special ice cream made and call it "Breyers Fudge Pack."

!!!

This can't lose, I tell ya! The right will get nowhere trying to eminent domain SB's baronial lands, but Team Alternate Current could get it done.

21 posted on 07/30/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: edskid

One of their most popular educational attractions would be an evolutionary display featuring "Homo-Erectus."


22 posted on 07/30/2005 8:27:32 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Liz

GO AMERICANA!



By Joe Kovacs
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Justice Stephen Breyer
Call it eminent domania.

Public outrage over the recent Supreme Court ruling allowing governments to seize private property and give it to another private party has spread to a second justice whose home is now targeted for confiscation.

Justice Stephen Breyer has joined his high-court colleague David Souter in feeling the wrath of the public, specifically the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, which wants the city of Plainfield, N.H., to seize Breyer's 167-acre vacation retreat by eminent domain.


(It's about time for the PEOPLE to rise-up and defend their rights since the Republican Party is too crippled with compromise to stand up for the PEOPLE!)

ONWARD with American Citizens' OUTRAGE and PROTEST against the unconstitutional tyranny imposed by the Supreme Court of a subversive *agenda marxima* which divests American citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights to private wealth, capital & assets, and personal property.

Impeach the Supreme Court justices who are pro-Marxist basturds - they have lost their entitlement to a tenured supremacy.

Neo-Marxism (pseudo-liberalism) seeks to disenfranchised the vast American conspiracy - the middle-class.


23 posted on 07/30/2005 8:51:25 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: edskid

Celebrities can open a "Starbutts" coffee shop.


24 posted on 07/30/2005 8:56:52 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Enterprise

"Celebrities can open a "Starbutts" coffee shop."

Urban legend:

U.S. government warehouses were over-brimming with imported coffee beans. SO...the beans were sold/auctioned off to alerted political cronies ala nepotism with the idea of gourmet flavouring the increasing stale-bitter coffee beans where upon they launched through capitistic "liberal" investment some very posh gourmet coffee houses featuring deluxe chic-flavoured coffee as a status symbol for the enlightened elite.


25 posted on 07/30/2005 9:14:05 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: Enterprise

LOL


26 posted on 07/30/2005 9:14:07 AM PDT by indcons (Koran - The World's First WMD)
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To: Liz; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Carry_Okie

ah, good... the rebellion is spreading


27 posted on 07/30/2005 10:46:17 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: King Prout

From Logan:

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28 posted on 07/30/2005 10:54:50 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: patton

Interesting.


29 posted on 07/30/2005 11:03:13 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: snowsislander

You're right. Instead of a park maybe redevelopment into a trailer park is in order.


30 posted on 07/30/2005 11:10:41 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Liz
There is NOTHING more fundamental to individual liberty than property rights. The ruling by SCOTUS was an abomination. I know this is all talk and in the end Breyer and Souter won't be touched. I know it just as I know that I wish I was wrong.
31 posted on 07/30/2005 2:54:07 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Liz

These Socialsits Judges could care less about their property, they are out to destroy our Constitution and our wasy of life here in America. They have other Homes, they could care less about yours!


32 posted on 07/30/2005 7:25:52 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: yooling; snowsislander; Naomi4; Fierce Allegiance; SASsySIGster; Uncledave; MaeWest; OSHA; ...

Weare-Them-Down ping

FreepMail me to get on or off this ping list for news on the Lost Liberty Hotel!

33 posted on 07/31/2005 7:45:16 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Don't let them take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: Pride in the USA
The Supreme Court's 5-4 court ruling said municipalities have broad power to bulldoze people's homes and put up shopping malls or other private development to generate tax revenue.

Two down, three to go!

34 posted on 07/31/2005 8:25:49 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Smile-n-Win

Thanks for the ping. Glad to see things are progressing nicely.


35 posted on 07/31/2005 10:45:02 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: Liz

Great News!

commentary, articles, links etc..:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm


36 posted on 07/31/2005 4:29:00 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: Liz
Thanks for the ping, this is a feel good article. However I sure wish they would go for their main residence. Might make them feel it a bit more. I am still in shock over this outrageous ruling, what were these morons thinking anyway.
37 posted on 08/01/2005 7:34:46 AM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: snowsislander
It would fit the Kelo criteria much better if it were converted to a shopping mall or a Wal-Mart rather than a park since tax revenue will be much higher from a commercial entity.

Yes, but this guy's house is in the sticks. Apparently, the deer outnumber the people.

I don't know how much money a mega-store would generate, because there aren't enough people there to buy stuff. The Hotel is a better idea, because it would increase tourism. And a park is for "public use" ... so maybe it could happen, but the judge doesn't seem worried.

They know the laws don't apply to them, and there is no way this will happen.

38 posted on 08/01/2005 7:40:28 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen
I don't know how much money a mega-store would generate, because there aren't enough people there to buy stuff. The Hotel is a better idea, because it would increase tourism. And a park is for "public use" ... so maybe it could happen, but the judge doesn't seem worried.

My concern with a park is that it isn't going to fit the paradigm of "public good = increasing tax revenues" that is at the heart of the Kelo decision. A hotel catering to tourists certainly could if the population density is not enough to support a Wal-Mart or shopping mall.

Of course, if the population density is that low, perhaps light agricultural industry such as a chicken processing or dairy operation might be even better? I think that there is growing demand for better quality cheeses, so perhaps a cheese-maker might be a good match?

39 posted on 08/01/2005 8:04:53 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: angelsonmyside
Thanks for the ping, this is a feel good article. However I sure wish they would go for their main residence. Might make them feel it a bit more. I am still in shock over this outrageous ruling, what were these morons thinking anyway.

Well, the fantasy is that the Judge would take a whopping financial loss, as eminent domainians lowball prices.

I know a place on the East Coast that was eminent domain'ed for $45/square foot, a couple of months after the neighbors sold to the developers for $290/square foot.

That's the threat. "Either sell it for whatever we want to give you, or the government will give it to us for pennies on the dollar".

And that's another thing we are overlooking. I think he has to be given a chance to sell voluntarily, before being forced out. He may decide to thumb his nose at everyone, and say "go ahead, but it from me".

This really is fun to talk about,and is a nice vicarious thought ... but it ain't gonna happen. The law doesn't apply to those who make the laws (did you kow that congress was exempt from the laws they passed?). That's why they make them.

40 posted on 08/01/2005 8:11:32 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: lonevoice

It is thrilling to see people take a stand against this outrageous ruling. I do think this latest challenge will have a better chance for success if the proposal is to seize . . . oops, I mean "buy" the land for a commercial venture that generates tax revenue.


41 posted on 08/01/2005 8:16:02 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: angelsonmyside

To suggest, as the majority USSC did, that crooked politicians in league with developers (their campaign financiers) would make objective decisions that benefit the citizenry---instead of themselves----is an outrage.


42 posted on 08/01/2005 5:29:07 PM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: traviskicks

Thanks for the link. Nice find.


43 posted on 08/01/2005 5:30:53 PM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: LRS; freepatriot32

The Libertarians are doing this. Where is the 'republican' party?


44 posted on 08/01/2005 5:38:46 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Good question.

While I wouldn't expect the Repubs to offically engage in a "stunt" like this, I do think they should be out pounding away at this truly horrible SCOTUS decision.

When I first stopped being a 1960's leftover doped out hippie around 1980, I couldn't quite get myself to get behind the Repubs, even with Reagan at the helm, because of things like this, so I voted LP. They do have some ideas I still appreciate, and this is one of them. While it has a "stunt" appearance to it, it may be the only way to get this decision overturned. There is a move on to try and get the Supremes to reconsider Kelo, and if only one of the 5 can be convinced how truly awful the decision was, even if by a "stunt", then BRAVO. I won't hold my breath, but at least the LP's are trying something!


45 posted on 08/01/2005 5:58:14 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
46 posted on 08/01/2005 7:11:54 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (I WONDERED WHY THE FRISBEE WAS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER... THEN IT HIT ME)
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To: snowsislander

"Arguing for a park seems to me quixotic at best."

You have a good point, but being named "Constitution" Park does it for me!

Gotta love it, Constitution Park on an anti-Constitution judge's ex-property!


47 posted on 08/01/2005 11:17:15 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: Always Right
They would make a better case if they wanted a hotel
Right! Plus with 167 acres throw in a golf course - 50/50 memberships for dues to the council ought to outweigh his property taxes - he prolly has two cows so he can claim it as an agricultural concern and also write it off on his 1040 as 99% business expense. Anyone want to bet? ;-) Nite Nite!
48 posted on 08/01/2005 11:29:13 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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