Skip to comments.Justice Breyer's Plainfield home eyed for 'Constitution Park'
Posted on 07/30/2005 11:55:25 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes
Justice Breyer's Plainfield Home Eyed for Constitution Park' By David Corriveau Valley News Staff Writer Plainfield -- If the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire and its allies have their way, someday two stone monuments will stand on U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer's Plainfield property.
Short of that, the Libertarians hope to cause Breyer some discomfort for his vote last month on a controversial court decision freeing cities and towns to take land and turn it over to private developers. They are planning a petition drive asking Plainfield voters to take Breyer's 167-acre vacation retreat by eminent domain at their 2006 Town Meeting. After ousting the Breyers, the Libertarians would create Constitution Park, to include one monument commemorating the U.S. Constitution and another for the New Hampshire Constitution.
The point is: What goes around, comes around, Mike Lorrey, the Libertarian Party's vice chairman in New Hampshire's Second Congressional District, said yesterday. This is a way of saying, Youre going to be held to your own standard.'
Lorrey said that the effort follows up a California businessman's proposal to test that court decision by taking Justice David Souter's Weare, N.H., farm by eminent domain and replacing it with a posh Lost Liberty Hotel. Lorrey said that Edward Naile, president of the Coalition of New Hampshire Taxpayers, has recruited some Plainfield residents to go around town, seeking signatures of town voters. Naile did not return messages left for him yesterday.
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Them that has, gets...
L'Chaim! Hello fellow citizen.
If he's ever a day late in his bill, you know the drill.....
Pfffft. Lights out.
Hey, how do I get me one of them "current-use credits"??
Due to copyright, I guess they couldn't name it Jurassic Park in honor of the dinosaurs on the court today.
My family has a lot of land in "current use". In fact we're looking at putting a bunch more flood plain land into that designation because the taxes are killing us.
Parcel has to be at least 10 acres. There are restrictions. Check at the town office.
There's nothing wrong with it. It promotes "open" land.
Howdy! It would be great if you could take a pic of the place and post it.
What ticks me off is that I have to pay taxes on the FULL assessment of my humble 1600 sq. ft detached condo - no land, while Breyer's final assessment ends up being less than mine for a 4,964-square-foot house and 167 acres!
I may be able to do that. In fact I might just "find" myself over in that neighborhood next week. I'm pretty sure there's something there that requires my attention. As the minutes go by, I'm growing more and more sure of it.
Looks like a nice place for a FReeper "Woodstock"...
Plainfield is a very nice town. It's on the Left Coast of New Hampshire, next to the Connecticut River and the New Hampshire Grants. (Some people call it Vermont.)
Hallelujah!! It has finally happened. The worm, having lain off to the side quietly and patiently, has turned..., morphed into a gaboon viper and struck with a sudden swiftness upon being agitated and provoked.
A great big WELL DONE to the New Hampshire Libertarian Party. They have taken the first step and decided that the USSC, in a participatory democracy, can be taught a lesson by a public butt-whipping and humiliation. They have set about to select the deserved Justice Breyer, one of the Supreme Gang of Five, for an exercise of What Goes Around Comes Around.
NOW,,,THEY need OUR HELP. FREEpers band together and use our collective power. I implore you to send an email to:
Chair of the New Hampshire Libertarian Party at
and Cc: address the Media Director in that same email, at
and also include as Cc: addressee the Valley News editor's desk at
This should ensure that the local paper that broke this story and the organization who initiated the effort knows that this is an ISSUE OF COMMON AND NATIONAL CONCERN. I also would suggest that you mail informational links to your own personal mail groups/lists to help spread the word and insure a groundswell of response.
The text of my own email is as follows and feel free to use it or modify it to make your sentiments known:
If money is needed in this effort- --- I hope they make that need PUBLIC....
I'm confident, all the money needed to "take" this bastard's land could be raised in a "wink"....
Sounds like a winner!
" I work for the electric co-op that supplies electricity to this place"
why does he still have electricity?
Oh, ah, didn't you see it? It's in the pantyumbra of the Constitution. Judge and reporters are in a class of special people",,exempt from most law. Keeps llokin, it's there.
Oops. Pardon the poor grammar. I "am" a law abiding citizen who "respects"....etc.
I would love to see this goober lose his residence. Then we could say, Hey Breyer, put some "ice cream" on that.
give us an address for a map, never can tell when one of us might want to stop by for a "talk" about things.
Do a ZABASEARCH, you can find amazing things. Download USAPHOTOMAPS, type in the address you come up with, and download a map. It is all freeware. Buy a GPS with a comm cable, download into it, and you get a little arrow showing you the way.
The Google maps and similar ones are fun to play with, but nothing beats USAPHOTOMAPS for functionality. It is too cool to describe, you have to try it.
Then they need to add one more monument, to Justice Breyer, without whose misguided idiocy it would not have been possible.
Hold that thought!
I rather doubt that anything like that will ever happen because we just don't operate like that in New Hampshire. But it sure is fun to think of the possibilities, isn't it?
Let's see, we got Souter, who's a native :(
Breyer with a "summer home" and Mitt Romney with a "place on the lake". I wonder how many more of them there are here that we don't even know about. Quite a few, I would venture.
Is that the same as an agricultural use tax credit?....I'm looking to move to NH in about 2 yrs, and am watching property values. I would like to acquire a home with land, but only if I can obtain an agricultural type tax credit.
Not sure about agricultural tax credit. But any reputable realtor should be able to tell you about the current use rules and regulations. It doesn't have to be agricultural land...just "open" land.
Unless this real estate bubble pops and totally collapses, you'd better have a barrel of money if you expect to buy land here.
I live in the DC area...so my trade here equals land plus house up there. The only thing I'm trying to avoid is the heavy property tax burden. Considering there are few other taxes, I shouldn't complain....but if I buy a property over say half a mil, I'll need a tax credit of some sort. I'll have to look on NH .gov site for info on the in current use credits. My idea was to plant some teeny xmas trees and declare myself a tree farm. I'd like to find about 25 acres with either an old house or a contemporary, possibly with some water frontage or at least a farm pond, anywhere in southern NH.
Good luck. Your money would go a lot further in Northern NH, especially Coos County. Besides, southern NH is pretty much Massachusetts lite these days.
Thanks for the congrats, folks.
As River Rat suggested, we are seeking support. I'm forming an organization for this, the Constitution Park Foundation.
At this site there is a link to a pledgebank page to pledge money, time, or if you are a Plainfield resident, a signature on the petition.
While ideally I'd like to offer Breyer the $199k value he pays taxes on, and that might be a good point to motivate him to challenge it in court, just to publicly illustrate how so many rich cheese heads use the current use law to create their own mini-kingdoms cheaply (and, btw, current use land is supposed to be open to public recreation like hunting, fishing, hiking, or snowmobiling, but Breyers is fenced), we'll likely need to fork over something around the assessed value (or higher).
His log home on the property is supposed to be over 4,900 sq ft, plus some outbuildings, plenty of space for an interpretive center, etc. and we may seek to build a lodge for folks to stay at (so there may be potential to work with Clements "Lost Liberty Hotel" on this) when attending constitution seminars. It all depends on how much folks want to work on this.
I never did get to that property this week, but I did find out that there is a gate. Could I access the property? No doubt. Will I? Nope, not without a valid reason...which may just happen some day. I'm patient.
Amen. I add my congratulations to the NH Libertarians. What a great idea! Let's hope this, at least, creates major headaches for Breyer for years to come. I'll be happy to drop $25 on this, if I can find out where to send it.
You might want to simply email>>>
Chair of the New Hampshire Libertarian Party at
and ask if they have a support fund set up; specifically, in support of the Breyer issue. Good Luck!
Follow-up to my last reply to you.
Forgot to mention to you that one thing that really caught my attention is the supposed second effort of a similar nature to go after Justice's Souter's farm too.
Can't think of a better exercise of democracy in action as an upset public puts the feet of legislating Supreme Court justices to the fire. Today, I heard the first mention of the Breyer issue on the TV news. If things get rolling against Souter too..., it'll be all over and the pressure to NOT LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH will be felt by ALL THE JUSTICES.
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