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Boston Priest Defrocked by Vatican
Yahoo News ^ | July 29, 2005

Posted on 07/30/2005 12:48:51 PM PDT by NYer

The Vatican has defrocked the priest who was the first in Massachusetts convicted of sexual abuse more than two decades ago, the Boston Archdiocese said Friday.

In 1984, Eugene O'Sullivan was sentenced to probation after he admitted sodomizing a 13-year-old altar boy. A condition of his sentence was that he not be allowed to work with children.

But O'Sullivan was later assigned to four New Jersey parishes. He was recalled to Boston in 1992 after church officials learned of another allegation against him dating to his time in Massachusetts.

The Vatican's action to defrock O'Sullivan means he may no longer function as a priest in any capacity, except to offer absolution to the dying. Defrocked priests also are cut off from any financial support from the archdiocese.

Documents from O'Sullivan's personnel file, made public in 2002, show that that the archdiocese was alerted as early as the 1960s to allegations against him.

In a 2003 deposition he gave in lawsuits filed against the archdiocese, Cardinal Bernard Law defended his decision to allow O'Sullivan to transfer, saying he wanted to give O'Sullivan a chance at "redemption."

Law resigned as archbishop of Boston but remains a cardinal.

A second priest, Paul E. McDonald, also was defrocked. According to McDonald's personnel file, he was accused of sexually abusing several boys in the 1960s, when he was a priest at St. Joseph Church in Boston.


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1 posted on 07/30/2005 12:48:51 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
He'll probably find new work with Rent-A-Priest.

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2 posted on 07/30/2005 12:50:09 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Nice to see that it only takes Rome 40 years to take action against serial pedophiles...

Shameful.
4 posted on 07/30/2005 12:53:28 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: NYer

Although I've never supported the CORPUS or Rent-a-Priest crowd, I've never heard of them being a haven for pedophile priests.

Do you have a source which cites them as such?


5 posted on 07/30/2005 12:53:35 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: solitas

Cardinal Law is not going to be charged with anything.

Where does this nonsense about him hiding overseas come from? He went to Rome because he isn't wanted here.


6 posted on 07/30/2005 12:56:37 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Without His assisting grace, the law is “the letter which killeth;” - Augustine.)
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To: George W. Bush

Looking at the Vatican's history, JPII was either unwilling or unable to take action.

Benedict is obviously not so contrained. He's apparently intent on a long-overdue housecleaning.

We may have gotten two good Popes in a row here, as many hoped.


7 posted on 07/30/2005 12:56:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: gbcdoj

I think Law has a very, very nasty surprise coming to him from Benedict. You don't want to be anywhere near him when that happens...


8 posted on 07/30/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NYer

cnim


9 posted on 07/30/2005 1:04:29 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: NYer

How is McCarrick staying above the fray in this one? Why did he accept O'Sullivan to a Metuchen parish? (That's not in the article - I've been googling).


10 posted on 07/30/2005 1:09:37 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: NYer

Sure took them long enough. I believe they should investigate Law. He was just a bit too lenient with the pedophile priests to be totally innocent IMO.


11 posted on 07/30/2005 1:38:22 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: NYer

Could your or some other knowlegable Latin Christian explain to me both when and why the ancient canons which called for the deposition and laicization of priests guilty of 'sins unto death' (that is of the short list of sins punishable under the Old Covenant by execution--murder, 'lying with a man as with a woman', mediumism, adultery,. . .) were abandoned by the Latin church?

This whole mess could have been avoided if the ancient canons had been enforced, and it has been a constant source of wonder to me that they weren't.


12 posted on 07/30/2005 1:49:21 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know . . .)
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To: NYer

Damn!

No rush to justice here.....
Justice delayed, and thousands of children exposed.

Semper Fi


13 posted on 07/30/2005 1:54:22 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: gbcdoj
Where does this nonsense about him hiding overseas come from? He went to Rome because he isn't wanted here.

Does that mean he went to Rome because he is wanted there?

14 posted on 07/30/2005 1:56:55 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Spktyr
The Rite of Degradation "Then, even if the degradandus be a mere bishop, the degrading prelate removes his mitre, saying: We strip thy head of this miter, emblem of the episcopal dignity, since thou hast befouled it by thy ill government...

"At this time one of the ministers brings the degradandus a crosier, which the degrading prelate takes from his hands, saying, "Thy shepherd's staff we take from thee, that thou shalt be powerless henceforward to exercise that office of correction, which thou hast brought to disarray."

For the full text in Latin see Pontificale Romanum (1895)

15 posted on 07/30/2005 2:10:17 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412

Yup.

But I think Benedict may be thinking of topping off degradation with excommunication for Law and any of his assistants.

Like I said, you won't want to be anywhere nearby when Benedict gets around to Law. I also suspect that Law is in Rome because Benedict wants Law where he can keep an eye on him until Law's time comes to answer for his actions.


16 posted on 07/30/2005 2:16:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NYer

Can we link any of the perps to Teddy Kennedy or John Kerry? Same church, same committees, sailing club, connections like that? We know of the connection between Boston liberalism and the spread of evil in Boston, but can we begin to put more names together?


17 posted on 07/30/2005 2:42:34 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: Spktyr

My impression from postings here is a steady stream of defrockings of pervert priests in the last month or so. Maybe just a change in reporting or posting. Maybe just a series of legal actions that were moving through the system but were delayed during Pope John Paul's illness. But maybe a major housecleaning.


18 posted on 07/30/2005 2:42:55 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412

I believe that there have been more defrockings of pedophile priests in the last three months alone than in the past three years. I don't think there's been a change in reporting/posting - I'm smelling "housecleaning" here.


19 posted on 07/30/2005 2:45:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Could your or some other knowlegable Latin Christian explain to me both when and why the ancient canons which called for the deposition and laicization of priests guilty of 'sins unto death' (that is of the short list of sins punishable under the Old Covenant by execution--murder, 'lying with a man as with a woman', mediumism, adultery,. . .) were abandoned by the Latin church?

The Code in effect since 1983 says:

Can. 1395 §2 A cleric who has offended in other ways against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, if the crime was committed by force, or by threats, or in public, or with a minor under the age of sixteen years, is to be punished with just penalties, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case so warrants.

Previously, since 1917, the code had read:

Can. 2359. § 2. If they [clerics in sacred orders] commit a crime against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue with minors below the age of sixteen years, or if they commit adultery, fornication, bestiality, sodomy, encouragement of prostitution, incest with those of the same blood or with affinity in the first degree, let them be suspended and declared infamous, from any office, benefice, dignity, or function, if they have it, let them be deprived, and in graver cases let them be deposed.

Since before 1917, the canon law wasn't codified, I can't find anything before then. Presumably it was thought necessary at some point to 'economize' the laws to which you refer, and this passed eventually into Canon Law; I understand that the Orthodox likewise retain some ancient canons in their collections, but do not consider themselves strictly bound to them. At any rate, it seems clear that the procedures laid down by Canon Law were not followed in sexual abuse cases in the United States - before or after 1983 -, since these reassigned priests were obviously not suspended or deposed.

20 posted on 07/30/2005 3:55:07 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Without His assisting grace, the law is “the letter which killeth;” - Augustine.)
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To: Spktyr; omega4412
I'm smelling "housecleaning" here.

There have been quite a few that never made the News Forum. Here's one from earlier this month, in Seattle.

Vatican acts against local priest

21 posted on 07/30/2005 5:17:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

It's about Frocking time.


22 posted on 07/30/2005 7:34:14 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Rule #2: Liberalism leads to alcoholism, drug abuse and death)
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To: George W. Bush; NYer

"40 years to take action"

Will God be as Merciful with our sins? Probably more so.


23 posted on 07/30/2005 10:58:21 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: George W. Bush
..it took them over 350+ years, for them, to admit Da Vivci was right. :P
24 posted on 07/30/2005 11:18:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: NYer

God is moving quite quickly these days. We are seeing a lot of things coming to right.


25 posted on 07/30/2005 11:27:27 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: gbcdoj; The_Reader_David
The grundprinzip in the Latin Church is that the ancient canons are present within the current Code of Canon Law, which Code expresses the content and intent of the ancient contents within the structural reality of the Latin Church throughout the world. The Code of the Eastern Catholics has a similar notion though that Code is more easily recognisable to the Chalcedonian Orthodox churches not in communion with the Bishop of Rome as well as Churches such as the Armenian Apostolic Church.
26 posted on 07/31/2005 1:18:33 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan
"the ancient contents" = "the ancient canons"

Trying to type with a child upon the lap is just not working....Ciao.

27 posted on 07/31/2005 1:20:39 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: gbcdoj
Documents from O'Sullivan's personnel file, made public in 2002, show that that the archdiocese was alerted as early as the 1960s to allegations against him. In a 2003 deposition he gave in lawsuits filed against the archdiocese, Cardinal Bernard Law defended his decision to allow O'Sullivan to transfer, saying he wanted to give O'Sullivan a chance at "redemption." Law resigned as archbishop of Boston but remains a cardinal.

As a churchgoer myself, I cannot imagine how Cardinal Law didn't stop priests from raping children. IMO, he should not be living a lifestyle of prestige, power, and wealth.

28 posted on 07/31/2005 3:49:34 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Eddie01

lol


29 posted on 07/31/2005 3:52:36 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Tacis
We know of the connection between Boston liberalism and the spread of evil in Boston

No city has been spared this plague, and some areas like Louisville and Louisiana have been hit harder than Boston. If you think child abuse is a Boston thing, you put children in other areas in greater danger by fostering an attitude of "it can't happen here."
30 posted on 07/31/2005 4:05:43 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: SaltyJoe
Will God be as Merciful with our sins? Probably more so.

You strike the right tone. The greater sin might have been that by eccleastic authorities who allowed this situation to fester. One can hate the sin, love the sinner and still take measures to avoid putting the sinner in a position to sin or do damage to his beloved institution.

31 posted on 07/31/2005 4:29:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: omega4412; Spktyr

Just because articles have not been posted doesn't mean it hasn't been happening. Where I live, the laicizations in the fallout from the scandal started three years ago. There weren't that many because the archbishops here had been getting the job done quietly for the previous 40 years. I can name three off the top of my head who were laicized long before the MSM got ahold of the story.

It could just be that there was a backlog and that they are finally getting to the ones in Boston.


32 posted on 07/31/2005 5:35:47 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: NYer
In a 2003 deposition he gave in lawsuits filed against the archdiocese, Cardinal Bernard Law defended his decision to allow O'Sullivan to transfer, saying he wanted to give O'Sullivan a chance at "redemption."

And simply, 'to hell' with any future victems (CHILDREN) of his perverted lust, right Cardinal Law?

It is YOU, and the twisted use of your authority that opened the door for this man to terrorize children, little boys participating in their faith ( what could be more heinous than grabbing a little boy and sodomizing him under the umbrella of God's house?), that opened the church doors to the buffet of little boys, innocent and trusting in their church leaders, and allowed this monster to feast.

33 posted on 07/31/2005 5:44:30 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: sgtbono2002
I believe they should investigate Law. He was just a bit too lenient with the pedophile priests to be totally innocent IMO.

I met Bernard Law the year he came to Boston, and had several occasions to interact with him professionally for a few years after that.

Imagine yourself in this situation:

You are sent to take over the Boston Archdiocese and promptly made a Prince of the Church. Millions of faithful Catholics are lined up to kiss your ring and want to treat you with great respect. You are the successor (twice removed) to their beloved Richard Cardinal Cushing, whose picture is in hundreds of thousands of parlors next to JFK.

You find out that your see is shot through with homosexual child molesters, and that Cardinal Cushing was presiding over the most prolific seminary of perversion in the US, perhaps the world.

You believe that thousands, maybe millions, will have their faith crushed if you act openly to reform.

What do you do? (Granted, open, public, and radical reform is what he should have done).

What he did do was arrest the problem, try to reform the worst offenders (always with seemingly authoritative professional advice), and prevent future cases by reforming the seminary.

He failed and he deserves his disgrace.

But he does not deserve to go down in history as the #1 criminal in the Boston homosexual priest scandal. THAT title should go to his predecessors, especially IMO Cushing.

34 posted on 07/31/2005 5:47:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I hope for God's Mercy when He rectifies me to recover from my sinful wickedness (like vanity, laziness, and masturbation). As dismissive as that may be, if God can be as Merciful to me, then there's Hope for us all.

"If little faults, proceeding on distemper,
Shall not be wink'd at, how shall we stretch our eye
When capital crimes, chew'd, swallow'd and digested,
Appear before us?"

A thousand gazoonies for the correct answer of whom wrote the quote! A thousand gazoonies more the correct work in which the quote was wrote!
35 posted on 07/31/2005 6:04:01 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: SaltyJoe

Willie Wigglelance

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36 posted on 07/31/2005 6:13:20 AM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: omega4412

The priests involved won't go quietly...It won't belong before the major lawsuits develop...with liberal courts just eager to attempt to strip churches(catholic and protestant) of their private religious rights and to make them fully taxable!


37 posted on 07/31/2005 6:14:38 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: Peelod
Your Google search of Willie Wigglelance turned up zero search results. Did you mean Willie Wiggle dance?

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38 posted on 07/31/2005 6:42:14 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: George W. Bush
....Nice to see that it only takes Rome 40 years to take action against serial pedophiles....

That's pretty quick when measured against action to pardon Galileo

That process took 636 years. The conquest of North America has been in progress for 500+ and is still ongoing

39 posted on 07/31/2005 7:04:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: bert
That's pretty quick when measured against action to pardon Galileo That process took 636 years.

Yep. But they're ready to canonize JP2 ASAP, the same guy who knowingly tolerated this scandalous abuse of children. And this man who idly stood by while this occurred and then did a big coverup and helped Law to escape justice is supposed to be a saint? The real truth is that JP2 aided and abetted child molesters, just like Law did.

When I think of the word 'saintly', these kinds of people just aren't on my list. Or the list of most devout RCs, at least, not the ones I know.

Hey, Rome doesn't need to worry about me. They need to be more concerned with RC folks slipping over to the Orthodox. Or becoming SSPXers. Or punishing Rome by withholding donations which is certainly happening in many places. RCs aren't stupid and they do love and protect their children like anyone else. So Rome will continue to pay the price for their indifference to the suffering the pedopriests have inflicted upon innocent and defenseless children and their parents.

Rome places great emphasis on the supposed authority of Tradition. But one of the real hallmarks of the ancient church was its efforts to combat institutionalized sexual slavery, particularly of children, in the old Roman empire. But today, they are the baby-mashers using their secular power to escape justice at the hands of the civil authority. Rome has judged itself. And the RC faithful, as much as they want to be obedient to tradition and the authority of Rome, can't help but wonder what justifies their faith and confidence in Rome and its edicts.
40 posted on 07/31/2005 8:09:24 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: bert
Did you mean Willie Wiggle dance?

I don't think we want to start a thread developing this concept.

41 posted on 07/31/2005 8:57:54 AM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: omega4412

Thanks for those links.


42 posted on 07/31/2005 6:04:11 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: George W. Bush

The Catholic Church(Rome)will be around long after anti-Catholics like you are gone. You might just take a look at yourself and whatever denomination you belong to.


43 posted on 07/31/2005 8:10:39 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Pope Benedict XVI: THE CAFETERIA IS NOW CLOSED)
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To: Lady In Blue
Always nice to see the sheep defending the right of the wolf to prey on the fold...

This isn't a theological matter, much as you might like to pretend it is. It's about Rome, as an institution, helping babymashers to escape justice for decades and some people acting insulted when it's described in plain words.
44 posted on 07/31/2005 9:12:04 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Spktyr
I also suspect that Law is in Rome because Benedict wants Law where he can keep an eye on him until Law's time comes to answer for his actions.

hoo-old it, didn't he go there long before Ratzinger became Pope? And what's keeping him if he wants to go someplace else?

45 posted on 07/31/2005 9:15:39 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: NYer


46 posted on 08/13/2005 3:33:31 PM PDT by red irish
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