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Judicial comment sets Crist apart
St. Petersburg Times ^ | July 31, 2005 | STEVE BOUSQUET

Posted on 07/31/2005 3:38:47 AM PDT by amdgmary

TALLAHASSEE - It was one of the shortest speeches of Charlie Crist's career, but as a campaign for governor unfolds, it may prove to be one of the most memorable.

Two weeks ago, the Republican attorney general and candidate for governor gave a late-night speech to a roomful of lawyers in Miami where he referred to the judges in the Terri Schiavo case as "heroes."

Crist insists he wasn't endorsing court rulings that prevented the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube from being reconnected, but critics view it differently. And by appearing to break his silence in the Schiavo case, Crist has sharpened the contrast between himself and Republican rival Tom Gallagher, who has said he favored government action to "prevent Terri's starvation."

At the dinner in Miami, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and U.S. District Judge James Whittemore of Tampa were honored as jurists of the year by the Florida chapter of ABOTA, the American Board of Trial Advocates. The group champions judicial independence and its members are lawyers who represent both plaintiffs and defendants.

Greer is the judge who ordered Schiavo's feeding tube removed, rejecting a subpoena from Congress and pleas from Gov. Jeb Bush, and Whittemore also denied emergency requests to reinsert the tube in the weeks before Schiavo died March 31. Both men's decisions were later upheld by higher courts, and both were praised and vilified by opposing sides of the emotionally charged end-of-life case.

Crist said he was "proud" of both judges.

"You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable," Crist was quoted in the Daily Business Review, a Miami newspaper that provided the only news account of the July 15 event at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables.

In an interview, Crist did not dispute the quotations. Nor did he offer a view of whether he agreed with their decisions. Rather, he said, he praised them for fulfilling their constitutional duty to provide checks and balances against the other two branches of government.

"I try to say nice things about judges. I'm sure I was complimentary," said Crist, who as the state's chief legal officer often speaks at bar-related events. "I didn't talk about any specific case. ... It's important that those checks and balances exist. Our system of government needs to have that."

Crist's comments have resonated far beyond the Biltmore.

"Judge Greer is a poster child for everything that's wrong with the judiciary," said Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America, a grass roots Christian political group in Fort Lauderdale that lists "sanctity of life" as one of its priorities and plans to form a political action committee.

"For Charlie Crist to hold that up as an example of good judicial practice concerns me," Cass said. "I think it was a mistake for Charlie to say that. I don't know how anybody can be happy about a woman being deprived food and water."

Rep. Dennis Baxley, the Republican from Ocala who sponsored legislation last spring to force the tube to be reconnected, said Crist's speech was revealing.

"I think it is one of those very important moments for us to know where he (Crist) stands," Baxley said. "I truly believe there's a lot of people out there who were sensitive to this case who are going to find those comments, and that association, very instructive. I'm understanding where people line up on this."

Baxley said that while Crist was "conspicuously absent" from the Schiavo debate in the Legislature, Gallagher sent Baxley a personal letter of support last spring. While activists in the Schiavo debate take aim at Crist, his Republican rival Gallagher is not.

"Tom's made his position very clear in the past. There's really no comment we're going to make on that," said David Johnson, a Gallagher adviser.

Polls show a majority of Americans agreed with the judges' decisions to order the removal of Schiavo's tube, as her husband, Michael, said she wanted. By a greater margin, polls show people were opposed to Congress' intervention in the case.

But to those who view the long-running Schiavo saga as a test case of support for the sanctity of life - like abortion - Greer and Whittemore are "judicial activists" who starved a woman to death.

Many of those people can vote in the Republican primary for governor in September 2006. Crist's stand on the Schiavo case could prove to be an asset if he wins the GOP nomination and faces a Democrat. But one Republican strategist said the damage has been done.

"Schiavo killed the Republicans. They've lost the women's vote," said Matt Towery, an ex-Republican legislator who now runs an Atlanta media and polling firm. "It's one of those turning points that you just can't get away from."


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1 posted on 07/31/2005 3:38:48 AM PDT by amdgmary
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To: floriduh voter; Sun; Halls; tutstar; 8mmMauser; Dante3; russesjunjee

Ping. Charles Crist praises Judge George Greer.


2 posted on 07/31/2005 3:40:21 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary

Crist is a creep. Now I know.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 3:44:45 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: amdgmary
Aha! The pretty boy poster child governor wanna be has hit his first bump. The more he runs his mouth the more we will see his true colors. Careful Charlie!
4 posted on 07/31/2005 3:48:57 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: amdgmary

Wow, I was going to support Crist for governor. I am really going o have to rethink this.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 3:51:45 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Popman
Think carefully. If Crist wants the governorship, he will have to prove himself to me.

But remember the St Petersberg Times is an activist newspaper for the left. They are so left they make the NYTimes look balanced. O'Reilly has been eviscerating them every time he gets the chance. Even my young son noticed during the election that whenever a picture of Bush appeared, it was an ugly picture, while Kerry looked dapper and tall.

If they can cause a Republican damage, they will. So I would have to check this further.

However, if it proves true, Crist will not get my vote.
6 posted on 07/31/2005 4:01:07 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: floriduh voter

Crist to Judge George Greer and Judge Whittemore, "You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable."

7 posted on 07/31/2005 4:09:01 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: I still care

I've been observing Crist for years. There's never been anything about him that excites me.

Typical politician buttkisser.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 4:13:29 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: amdgmary
Judges who order the deliberate starvation of a human being should eventually find themselves in the the same section of Hell as Hitler and Stalin.

They are monsters - not heroes.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 4:15:24 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: I still care
I picked up the Pravda West (St. Pete Times) the other day while eating lunch:

Susan Estrich was their lead opinion on the editorial page. Paul Krugman was on the page also. Both articles were so illogically flawed it was almost funny, except for the fact they were published in a major paper of record.

I'll see what Crist says after he gets hit with the fallout of this statement.

I got a call from the St. Pete Times looking to sign me up for a six month trial. I told the nice lady on the phone I don't support disgusting anti American socialist propaganda newspapers.

10 posted on 07/31/2005 4:23:00 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: amdgmary
I must agree here a little bit with Crist on his comment. What Greer and Whittemore did is indeed beyond admirable, and any other adjective of praise as well.

Bump and pinged from

Terri Dailies

8mm

11 posted on 07/31/2005 4:33:05 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Popman
You know, I receive the same call from the Palm Beach Post from time to time and say much the same thing, but I always do insert the word "fishwrap" somewhere in my answer. Can't say that I was ever impressed with Crist.

"Logically flawed." ;^)

12 posted on 07/31/2005 4:56:32 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: amdgmary
"Schiavo killed the Republicans. They've lost the women's vote," said Matt Towery, an ex-Republican legislator who now runs an Atlanta media and polling firm. "It's one of those turning points that you just can't get away from."

These ex-Republicans are very good at reading the minds of women, who evidently like being starved to death.

13 posted on 07/31/2005 5:45:19 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: amdgmary
At the dinner in Miami, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and U.S. District Judge James Whittemore of Tampa were honored as jurists of the year by the Florida chapter of ABOTA, the American Board of Trial Advocates. The group champions judicial independence and its members are lawyers who represent both plaintiffs and defendants.

Amazing. Judge Greer clearly committed obstruction of an investigation by Congress, which is a felony, and Judge Whittemore acted completely contrary to the law passed by Congress (and in a most dilatory fashion -- he was quite expert in running out the clock on Mrs. Schiavo's life) yet this group of lawyers throws quite a little shindig for this pair.

Photographs: LuxImages/Freddy Rozentzvaig
FLABOTA recently selected Circuit Judge George W. Greer and U. S. Middle District Judge James D. Whittemore, as its Jurists of the Year. Charles H. Baumberger of Miami was selected as its Trial Lawyer of the Year. The three were honored July 15 during FLABOTA’s annual awards banquet at The Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables, Florida where the keynote address was given by Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist. The prestigious awards are bestowed each year on the individuals who represent the highest standards of protecting the integrity of Florida’s civil trial system.

“Judge Greer, Judge Whittemore and Chuck Baumberger each have made significant contributions to the betterment of Florida’s trial system, not just this year, but throughout their careers,” said Herman Russomanno, president of FLABOTA. “They each have made a profound impact in Florida’s courts, with their peers, and in their respective communities.”

As Jurist of the Year, the Honorable George W. Greer, Circuit Judge in the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court since 1993, was recognized for outstanding service and dedication and integrity as a circuit judge for the citizens of the state of Florida. He was selected because he exemplifies the criteria for the award, not the least of which include following the rule of law and applying it evenhandedly; demanding professionalism from all lawyers; and maintaining open and accessible working relationships with the trial bar.

Judge Greer received his bachelors’ degree from Florida State University (1964) and his J.D. degree from the University of Florida College of Law (1966). He was first elected to the circuit court in 1992 and re-elected in 1998 and 2004. Since taking office, he has served in the Juvenile, Probate and Guardianship, Criminal Law and Family Law Divisions. In 1999-2000, Judge Greer served as Chair of the Florida Conference of Circuit Judges, the statewide organization of more than 500 circuit judges in Florida. In October 1994, Greer was presented the Mary Zeller Award by the Florida Supreme Court and the Florida Guardian ad Litem Program as the child advocate for the Sixth Circuit. He has also received recognition and numerous distinguished jurist awards by the Clearwater, St. Petersburg, West Pasco, and Hillsborough Bar Associations, the Florida State Guardian’s Association, and the Tampa Bay Chapter of the American Red Cross.

Judge Greer also served on the Advisory Board of the Clearwater Salvation Army and is a member of the Clearwater Rotary Club.

The other Jurist of the Year Award recipient, the Honorable James D. Whittemore, United States District Judge, Middle District of Florida, Tampa Division, was nominated for appointment as U. S. District Judge in October 1999 by President Clinton, and was unanimously confirmed by the U. S. Senate to take office in May 2000. Judge Whittemore was first appointed to the circuit court bench in February 1990 by then-Governor Bob Martinez, and was re-elected without opposition in 1991 and 1996. He presided over the General Civil Division “G” of the 13th Judicial Circuit, after previously serving as Administrative Judge in Plant City over general civil, probate, criminal and family law cases.

Judge Whittemore graduated in 1974 from the University of Florida with honors and earned his J.D. degree at Stetson College of Law in 1977. He is a member of The Florida Bar and the Association of Trial Lawyers of America. He is a past president of the William Glenn Terrell Inn of Court, past president of the Hillsborough County Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, former director of the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and past chair of Florida Bar Grievance Committee 13A. He has received several awards including Outstanding Jurist Awards from the Hillsborough County Bar Young Lawyers Division and The Florida Bar Young Lawyers Division, the 2001 Judicial Achievement Award presented to him by the Academy of Florida Trial Lawyers, and the 2005 Distinguished Alumnus Award from Stetson University College of Law.

“Both Judge Greer and Judge Whittemore, through their efforts in dealing with the Schiavo case, have distinguished themselves as jurists willing to follow the rule of law in the face of unprecedented pressure from sections of the public, the executive, and legislative branches,” said Brad Powers, president of the Tampa Bay Chapter of ABOTA which unanimously nominated the judges as co-Jurists of the Year. “Both jurists are deserving of this award given their professional handling of the Schiavo matter. They have greatly honored the civil justice system that our organization seeks to protect.”

Charles H. (Chuck) Baumberger, recipient of FLABOTA’s 2005 Trial Lawyer of the Year award, was recognized for his superb reputation of high ethics and fair play. He has had a distinguished legal career as an outstanding member of the plaintiffs bar. Baumberger, a founding partner with Rossman, Baumberger, Reboso & Spier, P.A. in Miami, received his bachelor’s degree from Vanderbilt University (1963) and his J.D. degree from the University of Florida College of Law (1966). His experience as a trial advocate began more than 38 years ago in Miami. He has recovered numerous multi-million dollar jury awards and settlements for his clients, including a 7-figure verdict in 1973 at the age of 32, the youngest lawyer in the country to do so. He has won professional distinction for his representation of plaintiffs in medical malpractice, defective products, premises liability, railroad, aviation and other substantial liability cases. He is Board Certified in Civil Trial by The Florida Bar and in Civil Trial Advocacy by the National Board of Trial Advocacy. He is also listed in Who’s Who in American Law. His peers have regularly voted him among South Florida’s top lawyers in the South Florida Legal Guide.

Chuck Baumberger served as President of the Miami Chapter of ABOTA in 1995, the same year that chapter won the National Chapter of the Year Award. In 2000, he served as President of FLABOTA, and turned the Annual Meeting into a “think tank” to discuss the purposes of FLABOTA and its future. As a result of the energy and ideas produced by that session, FLABOTA has grown into the active state organization that it is today. Chuck has served as a National Board Representative for 10 years, including roles as Chair of the Key Person Committee and currently, the Chair of the Legislative Analysis Fund.

Outside the courtroom, Baumberger has distinguished himself through his generosity to both his profession and his community. Chuck has held leadership positions as chair of the Trial Lawyers Section of The Florida Bar; President of the Dade County Bar Association; a founding member of the Dade County Trial Lawyers Association; Fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers; and Fellow of the International Society of Barristers.

“Chuck is a person of excellent character and absolute integrity. He has continually practiced law by exhibiting the highest level of superior skills and recognized ability in trial practice” said Joe Kalbac, President of the Miami chapter of ABOTA which nominated Baumberger for the Trial Lawyer of the Year Award. “Chuck is an outstanding trial lawyer who has served the best interest of the legal profession by continually advocating the right to jury trial and by promoting the highest standards and techniques of trial advocacy. We cannot conceive of a more deserving, dignified and finer example of what a plaintiff’s trial lawyer should be, and therefore, our chapter was honored to nominate Chuck as FLABOTA’s Trial Lawyer of the Year for 2005.”


14 posted on 07/31/2005 6:57:15 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Popman

Me too, Popman!! Keep us posted on the other candidates. I will be very observant of this upcoming election!


15 posted on 07/31/2005 7:31:01 AM PDT by jch10
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To: Popman
Wow, I was going to support Crist for governor. I am really going o have to rethink this.

Think hard. Did you read his comments after the New London decision? Jerk says we don't have a problem with local govs using eminent domain taking property in a similar manner.

I haven't seen anything about Crist that appeals to conservatives. Not me anyway. I'm sure not voting for him in the primary. But he's got the money machine. And his blase attitude towards confiscation of private property for development is a sure winner with the power brokers in the local government arena.

16 posted on 07/31/2005 8:09:12 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: I still care
This help you make up your mind?

Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist filed a brief with the FL Supreme Court supporting the use of search warrants to obtain otherwise private informationfrom Limbaugh's medical records

17 posted on 07/31/2005 9:57:26 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: I still care; russesjunjee; 8mmMauser; tutstar; Republic
Tom Gallagher (R), Florida's current CFO is also running for Governor. I'm supporting him. Folks from Crist's hometown know the truth about Crist and his ties to the Semblers and to the judges. Crist had a duty to protect Terri and he not only didn't investigate her situation as a civil rights matter, he didn't investigate the Medicaid fraud that kept her in a hospice even though she wasn't terminal, etc.

As Fla's AG, he refused to help Terri. And then when Crist praised the judges who killed her, that was rubbing salt into the wounds of everyone who tried to help Terri.

Do we want people very close to Clearwater's cult to be in our executive branch? And that includes Everett Rice who is running for Fla AG. He was the Sheriff who never investigated Terri's collapse in 1990. Never investigated back when it mattered.

I'm so glad that word is getting out about Crist. Tom Gallagher would not hurt a disabled person - not ever.

18 posted on 07/31/2005 11:50:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: ovrtaxt; Wampus SC; wildandcrazyrussian
Schiavo killed the republicans but they killed her first. GOP Judge Greer, purported atheist Judge Whittemore refused to put her feeding tube back in. Yeah, they sound like heroes to me. Sorry, Charlie. You showed who you really are a little early in the game but it will save me time having to demonize you, Charlie.

PRAISING JUDICIAL DESPOTS FOR STARVING AN INNOCENT WOMAN TO DEATH. Crist proved how stupid he is and that the Sembler family has been telling him what to say. The Semblers may have a lot of money but they can't have Florida for themselves much longer!

"You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable," Crist was quoted in the Daily Business Review, a Miami newspaper that provided the only news account of the July 15 event at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables.

In an interview, Crist did not dispute the quotations. Nor did he offer a view of whether he agreed with their decisions. Rather, he said, he praised them for fulfilling their constitutional duty to provide checks and balances against the other two branches of government.

"I try to say nice things about judges. I'm sure I was complimentary," said Crist, who as the state's chief legal officer often speaks at bar-related events. "I didn't talk about any specific case. ... It's important that those checks and balances exist. Our system of government needs to have that."

FV SAYS: As Fla AG, Crist failed to investigate allegations of judicial misconduct, legal malpractice, what happened to Terri's rehab monies, medicaid fraud, the DCF file - the missing file that he lied about, it goes on and on and on. How dare Crist talk about checks and balances when he was supposed to PROTECT TERRI'S CIVIL RIGHTS??? Remember we are dealing with the county of scientology, attys like Felos and Deathknell and a State Attorney who covered for all the Judges and an inept but connected Sheriff Rice who wants to be the next Fla AG. That should be a "no" vote too.

There are other republicans running for Fla AG. Everett Rice has a very long track record of negligence and coverups re: Terri.

Rule of thumb: If they run for State office and are from PINELLAS COUNTY, do not vote for them. They are in the gang of mean men that we are trying to unseat. Everett Rice voted for Terri to die in the Fla House and hired MICHAEL SCHIAVO to work at the jail this year before Rice went to Tallahassee to vote to kill Terri.

19 posted on 07/31/2005 12:00:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: I still care

All you need to see is at www.theempirejournal.com. They have Crist boxed in on other matters too, and Sheriff Rice and Judge Greer. They are all powerful and mean men.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 12:02:30 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary; T'wit; Sun; Saundra Duffy; Calpernia; Gazetteer
It's disturbing that Terri was murdered, everyone in the world knows it and this over-rated men's club of politicians from Pinellas County act like it was a heroic act to torture and kill a woman.

It was a despicable act and Terri is a martyr now thanks to men like Crist.

t'wit: Can you write a ditty about Crist? Thanks, FV

21 posted on 07/31/2005 12:05:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser
Greer "The law of the case is that she will die."

Greer, "I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl."

Yes, they went above and beyond. Was it blackmail? Bribery? What would turn judges into killers? And, Crist was not their check and balance - he was Terri's Judas.

22 posted on 07/31/2005 12:07:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: snowsislander
And they ate until they were about to explode at their special banquet Crist as keynote spkr honoring Greer and Whittemore as jurists of the year.

The parents and heroes of the year are Terri's family, the Schindlers, Bobby and Suzanne. THERE ARE YOUR HEROES. Not judicial despots embedded with smarmy RINOS who martyred an innocent woman. Florida is full of RINOS and I will not support any of them. I am supporting Katherine Harris for Senate and Tom Gallagher for Governor. That's it.

New slogan for Florida: Tallahassee is for RINOS

23 posted on 07/31/2005 12:11:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

There are freepers south of the Skyway bridge who are ticked at Crist over the KELO decision. Crist is wobbly with freepers at best. Tom Gallagher is his opponent in the primary for Governor. Gallagher has qualities that are necessary for a Governor. Crist is a suit with handlers and those handlers are very close to George Soros and all the death lobbyists.


24 posted on 07/31/2005 12:13:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

The man who needs our help before the Primary for Governor in Florida is TOM GALLAGHER, Florida's CFO. I don't have a url for a web site for Gallagher. He would restore some credibility to the State of Florida. He would need to be firm because the GOP base is not going to be winner take all any more. He may have a more democratic House & Senate simply because the GOP made a grave error by martyring Terri.


25 posted on 07/31/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: snowsislander

Terri never had her own attorney. Judge Greer was the jury, her attorney and her guardian ad litem. That's ILLEGAL. But, Crist let many things slide. Seeing him standing by Janet Reno says it all. That's where he truly belongs - she's a loser too.


26 posted on 07/31/2005 12:24:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Actors George Hamilton and Charles Crist

27 posted on 07/31/2005 12:27:46 PM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: floriduh voter

bump


28 posted on 07/31/2005 12:32:11 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: floriduh voter
And they ate until they were about to explode at their special banquet Crist as keynote spkr honoring Greer and Whittemore as jurists of the year.

Somehow I don't see this particular appearance helping Mr. Crist: appearing as keynote speaker at a banquet honoring the men who starved Mrs. Schiavo to death (thrown by a group of trial lawyers to boot), and then posing for a picture with Janet Reno.

29 posted on 07/31/2005 12:33:47 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

Yeppers, and I saved the photos. I can crop it down to Charlie and Janet, law buddies. Last thing we need here. He's not even using good judgment about who to be photographed next to. Guess it doesn't matter to an empty suit.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 12:36:13 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary

George Hamilton isn't a creep though but they are both tan.


31 posted on 07/31/2005 12:36:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary
"I didn't talk about any specific case. ... It's important that those checks and balances exist. Our system of government needs to have that."

Scumbag. Morality is irrelevant as long as the courts acted efficiently!

32 posted on 07/31/2005 12:39:18 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: amdgmary; Gazetteer
Crist: "You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable," Crist was quoted in the Daily Business Review, a Miami newspaper that provided the only news account of the July 15 event at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables.

FV SAYS: I believe this statement by Crist lends credence to many claims of coverups, sleight of hand, perjury and fraud. The Judges' duty is to be objective jurists, NOT TO DEFEND THE JUDICIARY. Crist doesn't even know what a judge is charged to do, it's certainly not to defend themselves, when they are robbing and murdering innocent Floridians.

To defend the judiciary, you would need CRIMINAL ATTORNEYS, THE BEST YOU CAN BUY OUT OF TAMPA, FLA, Barry Cohen was Greer's attorney in J. Whittemore's Fed Court Hearing. Judge Whittemore had a guest at Terri's first hearing: Joe Redner, member of the Atheists of Florida and the ACLU. Redner had front row seats to Terri's first fed hearing. WHY?

The ACLU and the Atheists of Florida applauded Whittemore's refusal to restore Terri's feeding tube in defiance of the US Congress and the President. That was no brand new hearing everyone thought was going to take place. It was fraud on the bench, the Federal Bench.

33 posted on 07/31/2005 12:45:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Calpernia

I'm buying duct tape if Crist becomes governor and other survivalist stuff.


34 posted on 07/31/2005 12:47:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: tutstar
Whatta do you know? Something else with Crist and Redner in the same article.

The woman who asked Charlie Crist that question

What sort of woman would ask the state attorney general if he's gay?

By CHRIS TISCH, Times Staff Writer

Published January 17, 2005 MADEIRA BEACH - When Lee Drury De Cesare asked Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist whether he was gay Friday, it wasn't the first time she has silenced a room.

Since founding the Tampa chapter of the National Organization for Women in the 1970s, De Cesare has nipped at the heels of the Tampa Bay area's powerful. For the most part, she focuses on women's rights, but she reserves a special measure of scorn for politicians and journalists guilty of grammatical errors.

In the 1970s, she fought with then-Hillsborough Sheriff Malcolm Beard about the hurdles faced by women in law enforcement.

"He hated me so badly he wouldn't step in the same room with me," she says of Beard.

In 1978, she filed complaints with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, claiming that two landmark Tampa restaurants - Bern's Steak House and the Columbia Restaurant - had all-male wait-staffs.

She established the Barefoot and Pregnant Awards for the people or institutions she deemed the most sexist. She called strip club owner Joe Redner a pimp.

For all of that, her question Friday to Crist at a meeting of the Tampa Tiger Bay Club was still astonishing to those in the room.

"I have heard that you were gay, sir, and I wanted to know if that was true," De Cesare asked.

Crist replied: "I'm not."

FV SAYS: Crist is unattached and he's in his forties. He has strong sisters in the school system. He campaigns with trophy girls sometimes.

Certain voters tied to adult businesses donated to Greer's campaign last year.

Sembler the father was Greer's cty commission campaign mgr. before Greer ruined the Sixth Circuit Court. Sembler the son is Crist's governor's campaign mgr.

35 posted on 07/31/2005 12:54:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary

Oh he's scary looking!


36 posted on 07/31/2005 1:07:52 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!avigable waters)
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To: Calpernia
Barbaric death brought you to by left wing judges and RINO politicians.

Judge Greer thinks he's the religious right. What religion would that be?????

37 posted on 07/31/2005 1:09:23 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary; Republic; Sun; Saundra Duffy
"Terri, wake up. Open your eyes, Terri. Look over here, Terri. Open your eyes real big, Terri. Good job!"


38 posted on 07/31/2005 1:17:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary

Buh-bye Charlie.


39 posted on 07/31/2005 1:19:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: amdgmary
"I'm proud of those judges. They opened the door for getting rid of all them pesky disabled people!"
40 posted on 07/31/2005 1:24:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: amdgmary
Georgie Greer, your soul is black
You pick on girls who can't fight back.
When Terri begged Communion bread,
You pulled her tube and killed her dead.

Some "hero."

41 posted on 07/31/2005 1:45:28 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll lecture God on what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell)
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To: snowsislander

This set of photos is giving me great problems. I was figuring on a decent night sleep tonight and with these nightmares swirling through my head the prospect is dim.

What a stunning collection of cuddly ghouls.

But thanks for the portrayal. It is worth the nightmares to show these critters for what they are.

8mm


42 posted on 07/31/2005 2:07:16 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: snowsislander

Wow, those pics set my gaydar off!


43 posted on 07/31/2005 2:41:36 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: floriduh voter
I live here in Pinellas County, and have met Charlie Crist on a few occasions. I voted for him for AG, and plan to vote for him for Governor.

That is, until now. It is a gift to know something you should know in order to act on it effectively. For Crist to call these men "heroes" is a travesty.

I had planned to work for Crist in his governors bid. Now, I will work against him. He has lost four votes in my immediate family.

I plan to see that he loses a lot more.

44 posted on 07/31/2005 2:53:23 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: tenthirteen
It's a rude awakening. I wanted to mention that www.theempirejournal.com broke this story about the banquet last week or the week prior. They are scooping the local media and the Times does visit the empire journal. They've even mentioned TEJ on the front page re: Sheriff Rice.

Tom Gallagher is a fine republican. I suspect the Times is bashing Crist because they are "for Jim Davis" who is from St. Pete. A Tom Gallagher can beat a Jim Davis.

45 posted on 07/31/2005 4:11:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser
Have you ever seen such bright smiles? They are in ecstasy engaging in such a barbaric enterprise. Let there be no doubt - this offing people before their time is big business, especially in Florida, where George Felos said he has begun a social revolution. It's in his book at www.amazon.com. IT MUST STOP. I support a federalized ban on starving & dehydrating ANY citizen of the United States of America unless they wrote it down (were misled into writing it down). I can only feel pity for anyone who is talked into a Living Will. The only purpose of the Living Will imo, is so that they can blame people who don't have one if they must be killed by the State. Think about it. Blame the victim like Terri, for not having signed a document that can force a patient off the earth before their time. They want to bump off a lot of folks who aren't terminally ill.

I just got back from Walmart. I have some cute cat photos as we awaited Hurricane Dennis. I'll put one on the August Dailies. Terri liked cats and I have two doozies.

46 posted on 07/31/2005 4:20:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser

Nobody who went to the 2005 Vigil is never going to forget what they experienced there. Those were the most shameful two weeks in America's history. Lynching disabled people should not be an American ideal.


47 posted on 07/31/2005 4:23:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser
As soon as I recall the road between the media and hospice side of the street, it affects my typing. lol

My last post to you should read: Nobody who went to the 2005 Vigil is EVER going to forget what they experienced there.

The police were over the top - but that's the way Judge Greer wanted it. It was Greer's Kingdom all the way. He's truly evil even though he's legally blind. I guess that's different because he's a judge. He can be disabled but not an innocent woman. Terri wasn't the first woman who lost her life because of Greer but that was re: a restraining order he refused to give her. Her ex threatened her, burned her belongings, etc. but that wasn't PROOF that he was going to kill her. Greer said that he "didn't detect fear in Ms. McGee" which is why he denied the restraining order. The girl was murdered less than two weeks later. Helene Ball McGee was her name.

But, then, this thread is about Crist so back to you.

48 posted on 07/31/2005 4:30:21 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Calpernia

Last hurricane season, Crist was going to disaster areas. He had a fan with him out of camera range to blow on him so he wouldn't get too warm. That picture is somewhere on the internet. It was posted on FR last year.


49 posted on 07/31/2005 4:31:33 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary; tutstar; cyn

50 posted on 07/31/2005 4:44:01 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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