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U.S. Muslims anti-terror fatwa 'bogus' (Steve Emerson)
World Net Daily ^ | 7/30/2005

Posted on 07/31/2005 2:34:50 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

The fatwa, or religious ruling, issued by American Islamic leaders against "terrorism and extremism" is "bogus," charges a leading analyst.

In a Washington press conference organized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an organization called the Fiqh Council of North America said several major U.S. Muslim groups endorsed the fatwa.

"There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism," the scholars wrote. "Targeting civilians' life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram – or forbidden."

The fatwa says Muslims are obligated to help "protect the lives of all civilians."

But in a 1995 speech, the head of the Fiqh Council, Muzamil Siddiqi, praised suicide bombers.

"Those who die on the part of justice are alive, and their place is with the Lord, and they receive the highest position, because this is the highest honor," he said.

Terrorism researcher and analyst Steven Emerson argues that along with the terror-related background of signatories, the decree is missing key elements.

"Nowhere does it condemn the Islamic extremism ideology that has spawned Islamic terrorism," Emerson said in a dispatch posted on Counterterrorism Blog. "It does not renounce nor even acknowledge the existence of an Islamic jihadist culture that has permeated mosques and young Muslims around the world. It does not renounce jihad let alone admit that it has been used to justify Islamic terrorist acts. It does not condemn by name any Islamic group or leader."

Emerson called it a "fake fatwa designed merely to deceive the American public into believing that these groups are moderate."

He pointed out officials of both organizations have been directly linked to Islamic terrorist groups and Islamic extremist organizations.

One is an unindicted co-conspirator in a current terrorist case; another previous member was a financier to al-Qaida.

The fatwa also does not name the perpetrators of Islamic terrorist theologies and leaders of Islamic movements, Emerson noted, such as Osama Bin Laden, Yousef Al Qaradawi and Ayman Al Zawahari.

In addition, it does not name terrorist groups, such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

The chairman of the Fiqh Council, Taha Jaber Al-Alwani, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the case against Sami al-Arian, the alleged North American leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, whose trial began last month in Tampa.

Documents released in the Al Arian trial show Alwani funded Islamic Jihad front groups in Tampa.

Another past trustee of the Fiqh Council, Abdurrahman Alamoudi, is serving a 23-year prison sentence for illegal financial dealings with Libya and immigration fraud.

Alamoudi has declared support for the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah. Recently he was named by the Treasury Department as having been a financier for al-Qaida.

In 1998, Fiqh Council member Sheikh Muhammad al-Hanooti gave a speech calling for jihad against the United States and the United Kingdom, saying that "Allah will curse the Americans and British" and "Allah, the curse of Allah will become true on the infidel Jews and on the tyrannical Americans."

Emerson also says Hanooti is strongly linked to Hamas, having served on the board of the Islamic Association for Palestine, or IAP.

The IAP has been identified by two former FBI counterterrorism chiefs as a "front group" for Hamas.

One of the groups touting the fatwa, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a spin-off of the IAP.

Several CAIR leaders have been convicted on terror-related charges.

Emerson also points out that CAIR repeatedly has attacked the prosecutions of Islamic terrorists arrested or convicted since 9-11 and has attacked the government's freezing of Islamic terrorist fronts, calling it a "war against Islam" by the United States.

Another signatory is Fawaz Damra, convicted of immigration fraud related to his ties to Palestinian Islamic Jihad. He was denaturalized and awaits a deportation hearing.

Another signatory, the Muslim American Society, is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States whose publications repeatedly have supported suicide bombings.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; emerson; fatwa; fiqh; jihadinamerica; muslimamericans; steveemerson
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1 posted on 07/31/2005 2:34:51 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The fatwa outlaws the killing of innocents. Only problem is ALL infidels are NOT innocent, according to koran and islam.

Crush Islam.

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2 posted on 07/31/2005 2:40:22 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The fatwa outlaws the killing of innocents. Only problem is ALL infidels are NOT innocent, according to koran and islam.

Crush Islam.

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3 posted on 07/31/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Emerson called it a "fake fatwa designed merely to deceive the American public into believing that these groups are moderate."

More "al Taqiyah," muslim justification for deception, to advance the march of islam.

Since long before, 9/11/2001 people that had dealings with muslims would report deceptiveness as a main characteristic.

4 posted on 07/31/2005 2:43:34 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

I'd say quite a few people fell for this 'fatwa'.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 2:45:55 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: WarPaint

"Crush Islam"

Damn right. CAIR is nothing more than a front for terrorism itself, and their phony fatwa reveals just that. Time to turn all the goat humpers into cinders.


6 posted on 07/31/2005 2:46:14 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
A fatwah against no-one.
They condemn the killing of innocents,ask them for the definition of innocent sometime. Hint it aint anyone except for a slave of moohamhead.

Kill A Commie For Mommie
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7 posted on 07/31/2005 2:47:17 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Juan Willaims comes to mind.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 2:52:05 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Objectively, at the fundamental heart of all this is the following:

The rational and the irrational cannot now, nor can they ever peacefully coexist. The conflict will be decided by eradication, not negotiation.

Anyone who believes otherwise is either a total loon or a willing idiot; of either side. And, in a very real sense, both groups usually become the first victims in any victory.

The defence of freedom mandates that rational people both understand AND embrace this.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 2:57:25 PM PDT by seadevil (...because you're a blithering idiot, that's why. Next question?)
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To: WarPaint

Come on now. Haven't you heard? Its the Religion of Peace!


10 posted on 07/31/2005 2:57:47 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
It's just hudna and taqqiya. Only Dems, the MSM and other morons/traitors would buy that snakeoil.
11 posted on 07/31/2005 3:02:37 PM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll buy it!)
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To: Aetius
It is the "religion of peace." The real question is, what exactly do they mean by "peace?" The answer is, Islam covers the entire earth, and everyone down to the last infidel has been converted or killed.
12 posted on 07/31/2005 3:08:00 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: WarPaint
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13 posted on 07/31/2005 3:12:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: clintonh8r
Just as an aside-did you see "The Juan and only" on Fox News Sunday this morning. Juan lit off on one of his Lib talking points on this subject and Brit Hume Bazitch-sapped him so hard that he (Juan) was actually short of breath and panting as he tried to defend himself.

Chris Wallace kind of of stopped Brit and gave Juan a standing 10 count. TKO all the way though. Juan was reduced to fiddling with his papers and sitting quietly for the rest of the segment.

Whay's that they say..."Priceless"

14 posted on 07/31/2005 3:15:06 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Fiddlstix

Me too.


15 posted on 07/31/2005 3:15:24 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

After you issue a fatwah in public are you supposed to say excuse me ?


16 posted on 07/31/2005 3:17:31 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

you mean they lied to us?

I'm shocked.


17 posted on 07/31/2005 3:18:02 PM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Emerson is sooo right. Problem is, the Islamists have issued so many death threats against him he has to live under super-secret cover--which only serves to prove his point about the "religion of peace."


18 posted on 07/31/2005 3:40:22 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"... fatwa designed merely to deceive the American public into believing that these groups are moderate."


I agree with Steve Emerson.


19 posted on 07/31/2005 3:45:11 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Have no clue why Islamic touts would issue a fatwa to a world of infidels & non-believers. Isn't the Koran ALL self-explanitory?


20 posted on 07/31/2005 3:50:18 PM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

One more 9/11 type terrorists attack in America and every Muslim swinging dick will have to pack up his Koran & family and go back to whatever hellhole they originated from.

Our ancestors didn't risk life and limb to make a better place for their families just so a bunch of camel jockeys could come here and terrorize our women and children and make hamburger out of our families.

These butchers want a jihad?
I say "LETS ROCK & ROLL!"

And if the ACLU or anyone else doesn't like it; they can just pack up and get the hell out with 'em. PERIOD



Semper Fi,
Kelly


21 posted on 07/31/2005 4:04:07 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

We did not win the American Indian Wars until Jackson drove the Chreerokee to distant reservations in strange lands, Sherman killed off the Buffalo herds, and we hired Apache scouts.


22 posted on 07/31/2005 4:06:49 PM PDT by bvw
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To: WarPaint

"Only problem is ALL infidels are NOT innocent, according to koran and islam.

Crush Islam."

LOL- and according to WarPaint ALL Isam is NOT innocent and therefore it must be crushed.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 4:09:12 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

We are NOT deceived by the pious statements of the muslims.


24 posted on 07/31/2005 4:27:57 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: RS
"...and according to WarPaint ALL Isam is NOT innocent and therefore it must be crushed."

That is correct!

25 posted on 07/31/2005 4:40:11 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: festus
"After you issue a fatwah in public are you supposed to say excuse me ?"

From the fatwah rule book:

'1 - Face east and kneel five times a day, aiming butt at the west.'

'2 - Keep noses glued to the ground until the wave passes just in case the guy in front of you is lazy.'

'3 - 'Ready! Aim! FATWAH!'

26 posted on 07/31/2005 4:44:15 PM PDT by Eastbound (Read the Koran?? Hey, if I wanted fairy tales, I'd do Tolkien. Allah ala Muhammud is alla the false.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Thank you for posting this excellent, revealing article! I understood immediately, upon reading all the fawning MSM coverage of this "fatwa," that it is a deception and a ruse. CAIR is demonically clever, because many Americans will read its treacherous words with belief and relief.
Now, how to get the MSM to print this article...


27 posted on 07/31/2005 4:47:59 PM PDT by Sober 4 Today (Take time to smell the roses and pet the kitties.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Targeting civilians' life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram – or forbidden." - unnamed Muslim scholars

So, Islam has been "not killing civilians" for over thirteen centuries in more than half the world?

OK, then. Help us out, please. Just who was it and to which religion did they belong who stacked up all those uncountable millions of Infidel bodies in hundreds of countries, some of which were nearly entirely depopulated and their civilizations destroyed?

You've piqued our curiousity!

28 posted on 07/31/2005 4:50:07 PM PDT by Gritty ("Why introduce identity cards for a nation with no identity?" - Mark Steyn)
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To: WarPaint

"That is correct!"

So you are what you pretend to hate, and your "solution" is to bring about the final war that would both prove Bin Laden correct and give him exactly what he wanted. Getting harder and harder to tell which side you are on, the fanatics on both sides appear to be interchangeable.


29 posted on 07/31/2005 5:31:47 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: ariamne; Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; USF; jan in Colorado; TexasCowboy; broadsword; FairfaxVA; ...

All out against Terrorism P.R.O.P.* ping!

*{Phony Religion Of Peace}

(King Prout - will you, or somebody hit those on Charlite's ping list, please?)

Phony Religion, Phony Peace, False god, child-molesting false prophet...

Why should we be surprised at a Phony Fatwa {drafted by extremist affiliated organisations} that isn't worth the $3 bill it's written on!?

Tell all your neighbors and friends, "Don't believe the lie!"

A.A.C.

"Let the Final Crusade commence!"


30 posted on 07/31/2005 5:35:58 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: WarPaint
the faster we get rid of these "people" and their damm death cult,the better off the US will be
31 posted on 07/31/2005 5:40:11 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: RS
"So you are what you pretend to hate, and your "solution" is to bring about the final war that would both prove Bin Laden correct and give him exactly what he wanted. Getting harder and harder to tell which side you are on, the fanatics on both sides appear to be interchangeable."

I do not pretend to hate islam. I absolutely hate islam and the koran. It is vile. My "solution" is to crush islam by exposing the koran for what it is: a diabolical, twisted manual of hate. Unfortunately, most muslims do not actually know what the koran say. They listen to their imams preach hate. In their fives calls to prayer every day, they call on the death to all Jews and Christians 17 TIMES!

I did not advocate more war by stating "Crush islam". There are other ways of crushing a maliciously flawed ideology, namely education for a start.

You tell me... what is good about islam, in your view?"

32 posted on 07/31/2005 5:49:20 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: WarPaint

"I do not pretend to hate islam. I absolutely hate islam and the koran. It is vile. My "solution" is to crush islam by exposing the koran for what it is: a diabolical, twisted manual of hate."

... and if YOU were a fanatic islamic intent on creating problems between the people who desire peace on both sides, that might be exactly what you would say.


33 posted on 07/31/2005 6:10:04 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: WarPaint

Islam is a bogus religion. Is it any surprise when what they say and do is bogus? It does not surprise me at all.


34 posted on 07/31/2005 6:15:06 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I'd say quite a few people fell for this 'fatwa'."

Only people with little understanding of islam.


35 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:41 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: Eastbound

LOL!


36 posted on 07/31/2005 6:36:49 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Cautor

CAIR is nothing more than a front for terrorism itself, and their phony fatwa reveals just that."

Cair is like, if Hitler had a headquarters in the U.S., that he could visit at will.


37 posted on 07/31/2005 6:38:58 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: festus

LOL!!!!
No excuse me's needed ....it's part of their culture.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 6:40:08 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: kellynla

You said just said it all!


39 posted on 07/31/2005 6:42:09 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Their talkin' out of both sides of their ass, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get it!


40 posted on 07/31/2005 6:47:18 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: RS

Excuse me. think of this for just a moment before we wander off to the Woods of Relativism....
Suppose we (theoretically) eliminated Islam. Ok, now...
what terrorists are left?


41 posted on 07/31/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
...the former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak has claimed in an interview. "They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie... creates no dissonance," Mr Barak says. "They don't suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judeo-Christian culture." "Truth is seen as an irrelevant category," he says."There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn't. They see themselves as emissaries of a national movement for whom everything is permissible. There is no such thing as 'the truth'." Interviewed by the Jewish historian Benny Morris for an article in the latest issue of the New York Review of Books, Mr Barak not only relates his comments about lying to Yasser Arafat in particular, but to Arab society in general. He says: "The deputy director of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation once told me that there are societies in which lie detectors don't work, societies in which lies do not create cognitive dissonance [on which the tests are based]."
42 posted on 07/31/2005 6:50:08 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
I have been thinking about this Muslim mindset for a long time, and after re-reading this classic History of Palestine by Rabbi Joseph Schwarz (a Palestinian "dhimmi"), have found an explanation:

"As the Mislamin [Muslim] now considers himself perfect in every point of view, it is quite natural that he holds it derogatory to his dignity to learn any trade; hence you seldom find among the Mahomedans, and this among the poorest classes, any mechanics; the rarest of all do you find them masons and carpenters, which trades are mostly supplied by Christians, and latterly also by Jews. If it is now the case that something has to be repaired in Al Charim, and the pious faithful are under the deplorable necessity to entrust this work to a Kafr, or unbeliever, in this instance always a Nazrani [Christian], because no Mislamin can be found to execute it properly, and the Jews not being permitted, according to their own Mosaic law, to enter at present the holy place, on account of the want of purification (see Num. 19:13 and 20), and as they are thus compelled to permit a Kafr to enter, they do it in this way: a black African dervish, belonging to the guard of the sanctuary, appears at the gate of the Temple Mount, takes the Nazrani on his shoulders, and bears him, running rapidly, to the spot requiring repair, the whole room in which he has to work being covered and hung round with carpets or coverlets, on which he is set down; and he is prohibited, on pain of death, to touch the bare floor in any manner. When the work is completed, he is again taken up on the shoulders of a dervish, and carried out at a running pace. As may be expected, all the places whither the Kafr has been carried must afterwards be purified by holy incense, scented drugs, and rose-water, of the Misma of the Kafr."

"The name Mislamin, Mussulman, is etymologically derived from the root Salem, “perfect, complete, enlightened, faultless,” or a man who has attained perfection in all his relations. The title or expression Malim, “master, or doctor,” is a term of offence to the Mahomedans, wherefore they are never addressed by it. "

"Should a Mahomedan be called or addressed in this manner unawares, he asks very angrily and offended, Ana Malim, “Am I only a master or learned man?” You have then to apologize, and to say that this offence was committed without thought, without any intention of wounding his feelings. The salutation Selam Alikun, “Peace with you,” should only be used among Mussulmans, but not from a non-Mahomedan to a Mahomedan, unless to offend him and be offended in turn by his rude reply. A non-Mahomedan has to address a follower of the Koran with Alla vi, “God be present.” Selam should be used only by and to a Selamen, Mislamin. "

"The only pity is, that the poor Mislamin is perfect already at his birth, and thus brings his perfections with him in the world like the animal, wherefore he has no necessity for any cultivation or improvement."

THEREFORE:

Since a "Muslim" is perfect, no Muslim can make a mistake or commit a sin. Therefore, people who commit acts of terror in the name of Islam are "not real Muslims" or it is just the failure of the infidel to understand the nature of "true Islam."

43 posted on 07/31/2005 6:50:20 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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44 posted on 07/31/2005 6:51:07 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: RS

Getting harder and harder to tell which side you are on, the fanatics on both sides appear to be interchangeable."

You could say the same thing about the appeasers.


45 posted on 07/31/2005 6:53:01 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: WarPaint
Emerson called it a "fake fatwa

A FAKEWA

46 posted on 07/31/2005 6:53:29 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

I'm so impressed! The Mufti of Australia and New Zealand signed a letter in condemnation of terrorism! This is what he REALLY says when he thinks no one is listening...

The Australian Mufti Calls for Jihad; "Australia was Discovered by Afghan Muslims"
By MEMRI
MEMRI.org | February 18, 2004

The Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Taj Al-Din Hamed Abdallah Al-Hilali, was born in Egypt's Suhag district in 1941. He graduated from Al-Azhar University and served as a preacher in Egypt, Libya, and Lebanon. In 1982 he came to Australia, and in 1988 he was appointed to his present position by the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils. The following is a collection of speeches and writings by Mufti Al-Hilali: (1)
A Call for Jihad from Lebanon

In a February 13, 2004 sermon at the Al-Quds mosque while on a visit to Sidon, Lebanon, the Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Taj Al-Din Al-Hilali, called for Jihad against Israel, and added: "The war waged by the U.S. and Israel against the Muslims is a cruel war aimed at annihilating the [Islamic] nation."

Sheikh Al-Hilali expressed amazement that various Arab countries and leaders had avoided hosting the upcoming Arab summit, and added: "In any event, we have become accustomed to the fact that these summits produce nothing, neither cockroach nor mouse.(2)

"We are in dire need of real men these days in light of the situation in Jerusalem and Palestine... Your leaders are looking for a venue and no one dares address an invitation for the leaders of this stricken nation ... because we lack strong leadership. In the past, in Arab and Islamic history, we were governed by real men, but nowadays we are governed by semi-men."(3)

Following a meeting with Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, Sheikh Al-Hilali said: "I blessed Hizbullah for liberating the prisoners and the bones of the Shahids and I praised it and its sacrifice. Hizbullah has become a model for all the Mujahideen in the world... Most of the Australian people do not support the policy of the Australian government, which has placed Hizbullah on the terror list out of submission to the U.S., and the Australian prime minister will pay the price for this in the next elections...."(4)

Anti-American and Anti-Western Sentiment

This is not the first time that Sheikh Al-Hilali expressed anti-American or anti-European sentiment. In a speech in March 2003, he likened "Bush Jr." to the son of Genghis Khan, calling him "the most ignorant president to lead the White House."(5) Sheikh Al-Hilali also declared that President Bush, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are the "axis of evil."(6)

Sheikh Al-Hilali said on another occasion: "The media all over the world are controlled by Zionist fingers, particularly the Western media, and that includes Australia, in which the media are under Zionist hegemony. But in Australia, which unlike the West and the U.S. is multicultural, the media are less racist in their enmity to Muslims and Islam. This is evidenced by the fact that we won the last media battle in Australia and succeeded in forcing the Australian people to treat us with respect. We have not suffered from persecution or disrespect to the same extent that Islamic communities in Western countries and in America have suffered."(7)

However, Al-Hilali believes that "the Zionist Western attack on Islam" has become the best means of its propagation: "The Muslims are like a cotton [cushion] that the upholsterer's stick only makes bigger. When the cotton is worn out and can no longer be sat upon, the upholsterer comes along and attacks it ferociously with his stick. These blows clean the cotton, cause it to swell, expand, and grow.

"Thus are the Muslims. The stick of the Western media prompted the spread of Islam, and stimulated the Westerners to hasten to acquaint themselves with it...

"The Western media attacks Islam day and night. But they are unable to hide the sun at midday. The events of September 11th in the U.S. caused a revolutionary change in the military and defensive balance of power in the world, and all the world must reexamine their considerations in light of these developments...."(8)

Support for Hizbullah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad

In one interview, Sheikh Al-Hilali accused the U.S. of terrorism and expressed support for martyrdom/suicide attacks: "There is no doubt that the U.S. is dealing with wholesale marketing of terrorism. The U.S. is the biggest agent for terrorism in the world, and Israel perpetrates terrorism, with funding and military and diplomatic support from the U.S.

"We are proud of the Islamic resistance in Palestine, Lebanon, Kashmir, and everywhere in the world that seeks to achieve its legitimate rights in accordance with the international resolutions, the human rights conventions, and the U.N. resolutions...

"We are also proud of the Islamic resistance that liberated southern Lebanon, led by Hizbullah, the legitimate Lebanese national movement, that forced the Israeli occupation army to withdraw from southern Lebanon, dragging trails of disappointment and shame behind it.

"We are also proud of what Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are both doing in the occupied territories. We support the resistance and support, with all our might, the martyrdom operations carried out by the Palestinian liberation movements, operations that are a legitimate act against the cruel occupation, according to all international norms and conventions.

"Also, whoever carries out a martyrdom [operation] is a pure Shahid and one of the men of Paradise. Moreover, he stands at the head of the Shahids."(9)

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12226

Sheik Likely To Stay As Islamic Leader

By Drew Warne-Smith


SHEIK Taj Al-Din Hilali is unlikely to be deposed as the leading Muslim cleric in Australia despite the fallout over comments attributed to him praising acts of terrorism and supporting a holy war against Israel.

Speaking on return from a pilgrimage to the Middle East, Sheik Hilali, who has held the honorary title of Mufti since 1989, claimed his words had been wrongly translated.

He created a furore when, in a disputed translation, he praised the September 11 attacks on the US as "God's work against the oppressors" and supported Arab martyrs.

Sheik Hilali told ABC Radio last night that anyone who rejoiced in or supported "the 9/11 event knows nothing about the Islam teachings".

"What is truth? Actually it was a poetry and in poetry we go a little bit into imagination of presentation. I'm fully for the Palestinian intifada which is people resisting with small stones, they are resisting rockets, there are guns. Their case has been supported by the United Nations and by human rights and I do fully support it."

But the chief executive of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, Amjad Mehboob, said many Muslims were concerned Sheik Hilali's speech had been interpreted as a radical call to arms.

There was growing resentment that the Mufti was seen as the sole spokesman for Islam in Australia, he said.

While Sheik Hilali could be stripped of his position in a vote at the annual congress next month, he retained wide support and such a move was "highly unlikely", Mr Mehboob said. "It's never happened before and I don't think it will happen now.

"He's done a tremendous amount of good in the community. He has a very wide following. He's well-liked, he's down-to-earth and he's certainly not a radical."

The Mufti title was bestowed on Sheik Hilali in recognition of his leadership, but it does not make him the spiritual leader of Islam in Australia, Mr Mehboob said.

Sheik Hilali, imam of the Lakemba mosque in Sydney's southwest, was also criticised for meeting the leader of the political wing of the banned terrorist group Hezbollah during his trip to Lebanon.

Sheik Hilali's spokesman, Keysar Trad, said he had consistently denounced violence against civilians and he was confident the Mufti would retain his position.

The interpretation that the Mufti supported suicide bombings had been wrongly based on his recital of an Arabic poem about a boy who confronts a tank with a stone, he said.

PUKE! THEY DON'T MAKE BARF BAGS BIG ENOUGH!


47 posted on 07/31/2005 6:54:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: RS

and if YOU were a fanatic islamic intent on creating problems between the people who desire peace on both sides, that might be exactly what you would say."

fanatic islamists are not "intent on creating problems between the people who desire peace on both sides". They are intent on killing all of us.


48 posted on 07/31/2005 6:55:36 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: RS
"... and if YOU were a fanatic islamic intent on creating problems between the people who desire peace on both sides, that might be exactly what you would say."

That does not make sense.

What is your point and what is your point to my point?

49 posted on 07/31/2005 7:00:00 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

'...there are societies in which lie detectors don't work, societies in which lies do not create cognitive dissonance [on which the tests are based]."'

Purely cultural differences?

I wonder if arabs and gypsies have a common ancestor?


50 posted on 07/31/2005 7:06:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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