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VIDEO re: Foster death -- you will be very, very angry when you see this video clip
NewsMax dot com ^ | 7-31-05 | dfu

Posted on 07/31/2005 4:55:41 PM PDT by doug from upland

Edited on 07/31/2005 5:04:33 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SCROLL HALFWAY DOWN THE PAGE TO THE LARRY PATTERSON CLIP. The first few minutes, Putnam is doing a NesMax commercial. If you like, you can fast forward a few minutes to get to the meat of it.

This is a commercial for Larry Patterson's book - MORE THAN SEX, WORSE THAN LIES. I have met Larry twice and believe him to be a stand up guy.

Helen Dickey, Chelsea's nanny, lied her butt off before Al D'Amato's committee investigating the death of Foster. She lied about the timeline.

According to Patterson, friends of Foster at the Arkansas statehouse knew of his death before the body was discovered. Richard BenVineste, the disgusting, lying DemocRAT spinning lawyer, got on the record that the troopers didn't want to testify. ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

Their testimony would have collapsed the Clinton administration's house of cards. I called D'Amato's office many times demanding that they call in the troopers to testify because Dickey was lying. They got tired of hearing from me, and the last few times I called, they just hung up the phone.

I believe Foster did kill himself, but he did it at the White House. They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office.

Had the troopers been called, the Clinton presidency would have been over.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushelder; cnim; coverup; foster; impeachedx42; so; vincefoster; whitewater
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1 posted on 07/31/2005 4:55:41 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
"They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office."

Yup! Foster's office was cleaned out before any serious investigators could get in there.

2 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: doug from upland

"David BenVineste, the disgusting, lying DemocRAT spinning lawyer"

Is that Richard BenVineste?


3 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Sorry --- of course it is Richard, not David.


4 posted on 07/31/2005 4:59:28 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: leadpenny

I asked the Admin Moderator to correct it.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 5:00:41 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland

bttt


6 posted on 07/31/2005 5:02:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

BTTT!


7 posted on 07/31/2005 5:03:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: doug from upland

There have been some pretty interesting speculations that Hitlery, or even Bubba himself was the trigger person.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 5:06:50 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: doug from upland

My question is, Why is it that neither Party or any Federal Office or Official that we have entrusted to carry out investigations and inquiries about such matters has not done it's job. Why hasn't the Senate, or the House - both of which are controlled by the Republican Majority- not done it's duty!?

Instead we have a former President who for all we know may have committed treason among other violations of the US Constitution and his Office. We also have another former President, paling around with President Clinton, lending credibility to his actions. Now we have a President who will not secure our borders, and calls US Citizens doing their country to protect the country, Vigilantes.

There is so much more than meets the eye here. We are being led away from the Freedoms and rights guranteed by the US Constitution, to form the New World Order government.

What they are not getting is the Muslim 5th column, and it's going to get both the Repubs and the Dems. The Treachory of the Muslims is ancient history.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: doug from upland

Awesome. Bookmarking.


10 posted on 07/31/2005 5:14:46 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: doug from upland
Ron Brown's murder... Foster's murder... and the Panama Canal give away... its all old stuff. We have discussed Bill Clinton's treason to the point of exhaustion. As long as government allows Ted Kennedy to get away with murder do not look for the Clinton's to receive justice.

The fact is... you and I will never see justice until the day the Good Lord calls us home. Believe it or not I look forward to that day.

11 posted on 07/31/2005 5:15:30 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: doug from upland

I hope and pray that Hillary runs. The American people will be forced to revisit the Clinton crimes.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 5:16:07 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

It's strategy.

I fear that Hillary is dropping strawmen left and right, preparing to "debunk" the phoney scandals she is creating now, so that Americans will then ignore the real ones from the past.


14 posted on 07/31/2005 5:21:35 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Baynative

Believe it or not, the video cameras just happened to be inoperative that day. Mike Reagan talked about that in his book -- MAKING WAVES.


15 posted on 07/31/2005 5:24:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Baynative

He killed himself in the parking lot, not his office.


16 posted on 07/31/2005 5:25:01 PM PDT by 1L
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To: doug from upland
Yep, we had a seriously criminal administration in Clinton, etc. Yet even the lone ranger Bush took no effective action against this criminal conspiracy. Why not? My guess is that this administration is dirty as well.
17 posted on 07/31/2005 5:26:41 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: 26lemoncharlie

I don't have your answers. I posted this today because I just found it and it made me recall the calls to D'Amato's office. That was the opportunity to stop Clinton, but for some reason they didn't want to do it. BenVeniste got away with lying before the committee. As an officer of the court, he should have been disbarred. They should have put him under oath.


18 posted on 07/31/2005 5:26:51 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Luke
...until the day the Good Lord calls us home. Believe it or not I look forward to that day.

I'm Totally with Ya MAN!!!

19 posted on 07/31/2005 5:28:34 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("I will Declare the Beauty of The LORD.")
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To: leadpenny
Richard Ben Veniste was also Barry Seal's attorney for Mena Airport 'issues'.
20 posted on 07/31/2005 5:34:09 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: doug from upland

These are th equestions we need ot ask ourselves and our lawmakers. We send them to Washington to watch out for our interests, it seems that they are not doing theit jobs. This means that we must do ours and elect people that will do the job and ask the questions that need asked and th einvestigations that should and must be made!


22 posted on 07/31/2005 5:38:42 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: SteveMcKing

No doubt, she is pulling out all the stops. It's 08 or never for her.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 5:40:27 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: investigateworld

What was it that Barry Seal did? Drugs? And how did he get hooked up with Ben Vinista?


24 posted on 07/31/2005 5:43:58 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: doug from upland
I've been in this forum for nearly seven years ... as has Doug from Upland. DfU, although well intentioned, is rarely right about anything ... he throws stuff out that titillates ... but can never be substantiated ... or, never turns out to implicate the party (Clinton, or some Clintonista) as promised.
25 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:23 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: doug from upland
I'm not sure I agree that Vince killed himself, but he certainly dies in the White House. The motive, either way, is the same. Vince was deeply involved with the Iraqi oil money, either vouchers, oil-for-food-program, or some other skim not yet known that was following to Willie's account in Switzerland, either directly or through a trusted Willie surrogate. Vince could no longer take Willie's criminality and decided to take it public (and, thus, was murdered) or so no alternative but suicide.

But, since Vince was involved with the other intern, the one who was murdered in the coffee shop, I believe he was murdered, as well.

The obsessive efforts of the dem scum to differentiate terrorism/9-11 and Iraq/Saddam has nothing to do with Bush. It is to keep the investigation from looping back to discover Willie's involvement with Iraqi oil money and, thence, to Vince's death and the cover up conspiracy. It is why Berger steals.

26 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:26 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: leadpenny

Barry Seal was the main pilot in the Mena Airport thing. I'd burn up a lot of bandwidth trying to 'splain it all here. Try to Find a copy of Terrence Reed's book about Bush (I) and Clinton. A lot of people call it tin foil hat stuff, but look at how Sandy Berger is sliding on some series felonies. How Seal got hooked with Ben-Venitsete I don't know, but Seal, even after being I.D'd as an informant RE: Sandinista coke smuggling was sent to a Salvation Army half-way house where some thugs from Latin America nailed him.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 6:01:31 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: GregoryFul

Yep, both are dity and it is putting every citizen of this country at risk with all the coverups that the Clinton are getting away with. We have the perfect storm of an aging "me generation" and demoRATS who will do or say anything to get back in power. If you want to see the future of the country just look at what is happening in California. Tick-tock


28 posted on 07/31/2005 6:15:46 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: doug from upland
According to Patterson, friends of Foster at the Arkansas statehouse knew of his death before the body was discovered. Richard BenVineste, the disgusting

He did Doug.

29 posted on 07/31/2005 6:15:52 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer

I have seen the affidavits from both Larry Patterson and Roger Perry. I will never understand how a committee could not call them.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 6:17:50 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland

A lot of people are going to make sure the witch never realizes her dream. The Clintons are pure evil !


31 posted on 07/31/2005 6:21:38 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: doug from upland

I blame the MSM. Repeatedly, when anyone dared to ask any questions during the Foster ordeal, MSM would make them look like conspiracy theorists or wackos, like just suggesting such a thing was beyond the pale. They did their darndest to cover this up, when they should have been investigating the story of the century.


32 posted on 07/31/2005 6:24:51 PM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: doug from upland

Ask Senator Hillary Clinton to investigate this -- to give her run in 2008 credibility ( /sarcasm off )


33 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:14 PM PDT by topher (God bless our troops and protect them)
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To: sportutegrl
" MSM would make them look like conspiracy theorists or wackos"----You mean people like us? ";^0
34 posted on 07/31/2005 6:37:30 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: leadpenny
What was it that Barry Seal did? Drugs? And how did he get hooked up with Ben Vinista?

Read the book entitled "Compromised" - Clinton - Bush and the CIA written around 1995 by Terry Reed. It will crul your toes. Sheds light on Webb Hubbell, hius father in law Seth Ward, cocain running through Mena Ak, chinese restaurant owner Charlie Yalin Tree (spelling), Barry Seal, Ponderosa original owner Dan Lassater, Raymond "Buddy" Young, the Rodeo Clown (in the words of Dave Barry - "I am not making thia up") and high school drop out that Clinton appointed as one of four regional directors of FEMA and many others. It would take a war room to display all the degrees of the clitoon network.
35 posted on 07/31/2005 6:54:22 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo


Clinton 'knew of plan for assassination'
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Washington

http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/ETnew/wclin04Aug96.html



Whitewater acquittals cheer Clinton's camp

IN THE interests of a drug-free world it is perhaps time for Britain and other Western democracies to consider banning President Clinton from visiting their countries.

After all, President Ernesto Samper of Colombia is now a pariah because of allegations that he once accepted campaign funding from the drug cartels - and it is hard to make the case that the hapless Samper did anything the current incumbent of the White House has not done himself. The allegations that Clinton dipped into the drug trough while Governor of his own narco-banana-state in Arkansas are equally persuasive. Indeed, they are worse.

Anybody who still refuses to believe that Clinton was once mixed up with the world of gun-running and drug-smuggling should read Boy Clinton, the long-awaited book by Robert Emmett Tyrrell, editor of The American Spectator. The opening chapter recounts the astounding story of L. D. Brown, an Arkansas state trooper who served as as a bodyguard to Clinton in the mid-1980s. Among other charges, the book alleges that Clinton appeared to have prior knowledge of a planned political murder in 1986.

L. D. Brown is not your typical state trooper. A man who likes to drink cognac at the Jockey Club in Washington - where he has been wined and dined countless times by Tyrrell in a two-year journalistic courtship - he is something of a sophisticate. He became Clinton's "fair-haired boy" and his arch-accomplice, allegedly soliciting more than a hundred women for the Governor's delectation. His wife was nanny to Mr Clinton's daughter, Chelsea. Nobody had a better ringside seat at the Arkansas Governor's Mansion in the mid-1980s.

Brown says that Clinton encouraged him to join the CIA in 1984. Clinton helped with the application, at one point scribbling annotations on drafts of an essay called "Marxist Influence in Central America" which Brown had written for the CIA. Eventually Brown was accepted by the agency.

Still a state trooper, Brown soon found himself drawn into the vortex of a clandestine operation based at the Mena airport, in western Arkansas, which was used to supply weapons to the Nicaraguan Contras. He went on two trips to Central America with Barry Seal, a notorious drug smuggler who had supposedly turned over a new leaf and was now working for the US government. On the second flight he discovered that the aircraft was coming back to Arkansas with duffel bags full of cocaine.



There seemed to be a plan to kill 'anybody that apparently had anything to do with what happened at Mena'
"Do you know what they're bringing back on those planes? They're bringing back coke," he said, confronting Clinton. "That's Lasater's deal," said Clinton. He was referring to Dan Lasater, a Little Rock tycoon who went to prison two years later for cocaine distribution. Lasater had been the subject of scrutiny by the Drug Enforcement Administration for a number of years.

Lasater was a major contributor to Clinton's electoral campaigns. One of Lasater's former girlfriends, Patty-Ann Smith, has told The Telegraph that Lasater and Clinton were extremely close, and she once saw the two of them snorting cocaine in the kitchen of Lasater's house.

The smuggler Barry Seal was assassinated in February 1986, ostensibly by Colombian hitmen. Shortly afterwards Brown was instructed to go to Mexico to murder Seal's co-pilot. He flew to Puerto Vallarta on June 18, 1986, was issued with a rifle and led to his victim. But the man was not Seal's co-pilot. Instead it was a CIA contract employee called Terry Reed, who had worked on a different part of the Mena operation.

Brown backed out at the last moment. He told Tyrrell that there seemed to be a plan to kill "anybody that apparently had anything to do with what happened at Mena". Brown alleges that he told Clinton about the assassination mission to Mexico and Clinton simply said: "Oh, that's good, that's good, L. D." Looking back, Brown believes Clinton knew that the intended quarry was Reed.

Reed claims to have been in a bunker outside Little Rock in 1986 when Clinton met Lt-Col Oliver North and others to discuss the secret scheme to resupply the Contras. He would rather not have witnessed it, because it made him a walking liability. Reed was hunted down and arrested on trumped up criminal charges. After a three-year ordeal he was acquitted, with the judge reprimanding the prosecutor for abuse of power. Ever since, he has been fighting in the courts to find out who orchestrated the efforts to destroy him.

Now, the American media will try to ignore this whole shocking saga, continuing the conspiracy of silence. Instead, they will serve us a warmed-over dish of Whitewater, as if anybody cared about that petty infraction. Death squads are much more interesting.

This report appeared in the last edition of The Sunday Telegraph


36 posted on 07/31/2005 7:16:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: All
Where's the rest of the story?

I think the case of Henry Marshall is a clue. The Department of Agriculture official in Bryan, Texas, was found dead on 3rd June 1961. Shot five times with a .22-caliber rifle, the Texas officials ruled it a suicide.

Billie Sol Estes a LBJ associate was screwing DoA out of millions and Marshall was about to prove it.

It was twenty years later that Mac Wallace a convicted murderer in the early 1950s and a close associate of LBJ was named by Estes as the killer of Marshall.

To wit, "On 9th August, 1984, Estes' lawyer, Douglas Caddy, wrote to Stephen S. Trott at the U.S. Department of Justice. In the letter Caddy claimed that Estes, Lyndon B. Johnson, Mac Wallace and Cliff Carter had been involved in the murders of Henry Marshall [et al. (many et al's!)]"

Though much was reported about Billie Sol Estes' shenanigans by the MSM while JFK was still alive after LBJ became president you had to hunt real hard for limited circulation magazines to follow the case. There was no modern talk radio and no Internet.

The point is, it's the President's control over a willing MSM (this is before the MSM turned against LBJ to support their Ho in Hanoi).

It'll maybe be twenty years before the final story of Foster is known. I think that most believe it really was a suicide (but not in the park) and, some say, caused by the swirling scandals at the national level and the fact that he was over his head covering up for the Clintons. The tainted blood scandal for example. Washington ain't Little Rock.

37 posted on 07/31/2005 7:19:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: doug from upland

"Their testimony would have collapsed the Clinton administration's house of cards. I called D'Amato's office many times demanding that they call in the troopers to testify because Dickey was lying. They got tired of hearing from me, and the last few times I called, they just hung up the phone"

I seriously doubt that it would have. In fact there is nothing Clinton could have done that would have gotten him removed from office. If the treasonous act of selling sensitive military technology to the Chinese - whose generals have openly threatened to nuke the US - wasn't enough to remove the great stainmaker, there is nothing that would have been.

We all know what a complete abomination Bill Clinton is, how he led a regime of utter corruption for eight long years. That's a given. The real question lies with the utter failure of the opposition party who was supposed to reign him in. He was allowed to skate on every single outrage.

To this very day (five years after the fact), the Bush administration is fighting (with our tax dollars) lawsuits brought against Clinton administration officials to expose their various schemes and operations. Why? There have been no investigations of Clinton activities, nor have Clinton-appointed apparatchiks been removed from their government jobs - Norm Mineta being the most visible example. On 9/12/01 Bush could have fired every single Clinton lackey in DC and enjoyed widespread public support for doing so. Why didn't he? The Republicans control both houes of Congress and not a thing has been done. Worse, they participated in laughable white-wash commission about the 9/11 attacks starring such luminaries are Jamie Gorelick and Richard Ben Veniste that tells us that the apparatchiks were doing their jobs all those years and mere suffered from a "lack of imagination." Why?

It's possible a number of leading Republican pols are themselves in on the deal with the Chinese - which woud make them likewise guilty of treason. I also wouldn't rule out a significant blackmail operation via the 900-plus FBI files that Hillary got hold of. Hillary is certainly planning to take over on Jan. 21, 2009, and the Republicans appear to be doing their very best to help her along.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 7:20:55 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Bogolyubski

I will respectfully disagree. We had taken the Congress back so we could hold hearings. We had subpoena power. If the troopers testified that they knew of Foster's death before his body was found and before Clinton knew, all hell would have broken loose.


39 posted on 07/31/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: GregoryFul
RE: "Yet even the lone ranger Bush took no effective action against this criminal conspiracy. Why not?"

Bill O'Reilly reported on his radio show several times that the Democrats in Congress told the new President that if he even thought about allowing investigations of the Clintons he would not get anything through Congress.

Though your idea has merit also, IMO. I.e., "My guess is that this administration is dirty as well."

It ain't Bush bashing, it's politics as usual.

40 posted on 07/31/2005 7:29:16 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Baynative
RE: "How could they possibly have cleaned blood spatters that would have been on the upholstery and headliner of the car which was found shortly thereafter in the park?"

I did not search to verify but I do recall that there was some question whether Foster's car was in the Park's lot. Also there's the question of how his car keys were found.

41 posted on 07/31/2005 7:38:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: doug from upland
If all the facts ever come out about Mena and other little tidbits it would not only be the Clintons who whose 'careers' would be over...

Willy is golden...it took plenty of compromised insiders to cover up all the gore then and now..

Willy's impeachment was well handled...he's free and his 'wife' will be running for the presidency soon enough..

imo

42 posted on 07/31/2005 8:12:51 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
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To: Tacis

This is the first I've heard of Foster and the "other intern," murdered at Starbucks. Can you provide any links?


43 posted on 07/31/2005 9:04:36 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: doug from upland

"... video cameras just happened to be inoperative that day."


My my .. wasn't that convenient. And people want me to believe Foster committed suicide.


44 posted on 07/31/2005 9:10:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Bogolyubski
On 9/12/01 Bush could have fired every single Clinton lackey in DC and enjoyed widespread public support for doing so.

If Clinton, as Gov. of Arkansas, was involved in CIA drug-running out of Mena, AR, it wouldn't take much of a leap to drag in the President at the time, GHW Bush. Whether the senior Bush was involved or had any knowledge, or not, I doubt that the current administration wants anyone "going there." This may be why the current President Bush worked so hard to protect the papers of Pres. Clinton, thereby also protecting the papers of the first Pres. Bush.

I remember when Clinton was on the brink of impeachment, word went out that if he was removed from office, he was bringing down everyone else, too. Next thing you know, Lott arranged for a pseudo "trial" and pro forma vote of not guilty.

45 posted on 07/31/2005 9:16:38 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: doug from upland

"Reed claims to have been in a bunker outside Little Rock in 1986 when Clinton met Lt-Col Oliver North and others to discuss the secret scheme to resupply the Contras."

So now Ollie North and Ronald Reagan were hooked into Clinton's criminal drug smuggling out of Mena Arkansas?


46 posted on 07/31/2005 9:18:16 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: doug from upland
I believe Foster did kill himself, but he did it at the White House. They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office.

Yes, that's my belief too.

47 posted on 07/31/2005 9:18:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: doug from upland

I still think Vince was murdered when he wouldn't play ball in covering up Clinton corruption.


48 posted on 07/31/2005 9:19:58 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: doug from upland
BUDDY WAS MURDERED

Buddy was murdered because he was going to go public with allegations of sexual abuse by the Abuser in Chief. Why else would a perfectly normal chocolate lab run in front of a car?

49 posted on 07/31/2005 9:23:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: doug from upland
The opening chapter recounts the astounding story of L. D. Brown, an Arkansas state trooper who served as as a bodyguard to Clinton in the mid-1980s. Among other charges, the book alleges that Clinton appeared to have prior knowledge of a planned political murder in 1986.

About five years ago, I attended a political seminar in Independence, MO hosted by the Mid-American Constitution Conference. I was sitting in the auditorium next to an older man and his son and we struck up a conversation between speakers. (The scheduler must have had a great sense of irony). Terry Reed had just finished speaking and L.D. Brown was preparing to speak next. They chatted for about five minues between sessions. In the mean time, I made the mistake of leaning over and asking the older fella next to me, "Do you see the irony on that stage?" his answer - "no". I proceeded to tell him, "Several years ago, the man on the right was ordered to go down to Mexico and assisinate the man on the left. Obviously, he refused to do so".

That brough a curious expression from the old man. And I say this was a mistake because about an hour later during the question and answer period, the old coot stood up and aksed in front of about 150 people, "Is it true you were ordered to murder Terry Reed?" I felt about 2 feet tall and wanted to slide out of my chair.
50 posted on 07/31/2005 9:23:49 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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