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Meat-Eating Caterpillar; It hunts snails and ties them down
ScienceNews ^ | 7/23/05 | S. Milius

Posted on 07/31/2005 5:51:47 PM PDT by furball4paws

A snail eating caterpillar is described. It hunts down snails, ties them down with silk and devours them.

"Such oddball lifestyles tend to develop in isolated ecosystems where there's a limited variety of creatures, as in Hawaii. "There's more room for evolutionary experimentation," says Gillespie. For example, Hawaiian insects evolved without ants as predators or competitors for food."

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...


TOPICS: US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: biology; caterpillars; crevo; evolution; hawaii; snails
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Once more evolution rears its ugly head in the form of oddball feeding habits.
1 posted on 07/31/2005 5:51:48 PM PDT by furball4paws
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To: furball4paws; Ichneumon

Pingy thingy. I think Ichy would especially like it.


2 posted on 07/31/2005 5:52:32 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Pingy thingy.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 5:53:02 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws

That's how Hillary Mates.


4 posted on 07/31/2005 5:53:38 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I DON'T C.A.I.R. !!!!!!!!!)
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To: furball4paws

Escargot Wrap.

CW green garlic or green chill


5 posted on 07/31/2005 5:56:26 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: furball4paws
Nice, but not very newsworthy. You think I should ping the whole list for this?
6 posted on 07/31/2005 6:04:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: furball4paws

Reminds me of an old girlfriend of mine. Boy, do I miss her.


7 posted on 07/31/2005 6:04:49 PM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Sunday evening's usually slow. Certainly a selected ping is worth it, but I'll leave it up to you.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 6:06:13 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Buck W.

lol.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 6:08:08 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: furball4paws; longshadow; VadeRetro; balrog666; general_re; RadioAstronomer; js1138; whattajoke; ...
"Meat-Eating Caterpillar" Ping List

10 posted on 07/31/2005 6:11:29 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: furball4paws
Happy?
11 posted on 07/31/2005 6:11:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: furball4paws

Now, if it were to be effective on garden slugs, which some here call 'snails,' I could be rich if I set up an import business!


12 posted on 07/31/2005 6:12:17 PM PDT by ZOTnot ('We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good'--Hillary, 6/28/2004.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I'm almost always happy :)


13 posted on 07/31/2005 6:13:18 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: ZOTnot

Unfortunately it would be hard to tie down a slug. This time of year they are particularly destructive around here.


14 posted on 07/31/2005 6:14:39 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Please add me to the Meat Eating Caterpillar" ping list. I understand this is a high volume ping list, but I must be kept current.
15 posted on 07/31/2005 6:16:02 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: gitmo; PatrickHenry

I owe you a < /i>.


16 posted on 07/31/2005 6:16:53 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: furball4paws
Yeah, but really, how hard can it be to chase a snail?

Can we send a few of 'em to France? We could put a huge dent in their diet...

17 posted on 07/31/2005 6:17:56 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: furball4paws

18 posted on 07/31/2005 6:19:12 PM PDT by brbethke
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

When you are a caterpillar carrying around a protective "tube" what else could you expect to successfully chase?


19 posted on 07/31/2005 6:19:47 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws
Unfortunately it would be hard to tie down a slug. This time of year they are particularly destructive around here.

Got lots of slugs here too but with butter and garlic they are just as good as escargots and one heck of a lot cheaper...........

20 posted on 07/31/2005 6:20:22 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Too many idiots, too little time to deal with them all......I'll just shoot what I can.)
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To: gitmo; aculeus; general_re; Thinkin' Gal
Please add me to the "Meat Eating Caterpillar" ping list.

No need, if you're already on the Oddball Lifestyles list.

;-)

21 posted on 07/31/2005 6:20:26 PM PDT by dighton
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To: brbethke

I never understood why Mothra was so dangerous. It just seemed like the Japanese couldn't think of a new monster, but a giant moth?


22 posted on 07/31/2005 6:21:32 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Give me your address and I'll send you a gallon of 'em.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 6:22:47 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: gitmo; furball4paws
Please add me to the Meat Eating Caterpillar" ping list.

Sorry. Due to software limitations, the list is now at the maximum allowed by FreeRepublic. I suggest you ask furball4paws to get on his Venus Flytrap list, which may still have a few open slots.

24 posted on 07/31/2005 6:27:50 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: furball4paws
It just seemed like the Japanese couldn't think of a new monster, but a giant moth?

Yeah, but the singing twins were hot.

25 posted on 07/31/2005 6:28:31 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: PatrickHenry

I think Venus' Fly Trap has been banned.


26 posted on 07/31/2005 6:29:26 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Ichneumon

OH, yeh. I forgot about them. Maybe it wasn't so bad after all.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 6:30:24 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws
Once more evolution rears its ugly head in the form of oddball feeding habits.

Why does your comment seem to scream for an image of Michael Moore? (Please don't post one!)

28 posted on 07/31/2005 6:30:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: PatrickHenry

Same thing happened to me when I tried to get on the Stune My Beeber ping list. I guess I'm too slow on the signups.


29 posted on 07/31/2005 6:32:00 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: dighton; general_re
A possible fifth species was collected high in rainforests on the island of Kauai ...

Could they be a little more specific?


30 posted on 07/31/2005 6:32:43 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Please keep BlueLancer in your prayers. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453026/posts)
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To: furball4paws
Oh....bugs. I thought it was another Rachel Corrie post.
31 posted on 07/31/2005 6:33:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: furball4paws
I never understood why Mothra was so dangerous. It just seemed like the Japanese couldn't think of a new monster, but a giant moth?

Yeah, but watch out if you're wearing a wool suit.

32 posted on 07/31/2005 6:33:07 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: NonValueAdded

In that case it wouldn't be evolution's "ugly head".


33 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:17 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws; dighton; aculeus
Rubinoff says that he's never seen attacks on a moving snail. Instead, a caterpillar sidles up to a sitting snail, pokes around gently as if confirming its target, and then starts an elaborate tie-down that takes about an hour.


34 posted on 07/31/2005 6:37:07 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Please keep BlueLancer in your prayers. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453026/posts)
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To: PatrickHenry
Well, It is interesting. Judgement call. :D
35 posted on 07/31/2005 6:38:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: furball4paws
I shot this pic in Honduras a couple years ago. The moth was at least 6 inches across...... =
36 posted on 07/31/2005 6:39:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Too many idiots, too little time to deal with them all......I'll just shoot what I can.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I tell ya'. On Sunday evenings, even snails and caterpillars can pull 'em in.


37 posted on 07/31/2005 6:40:15 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws
On Sunday evenings, even snails and caterpillars can pull 'em in.

Slime has its attractions ...

38 posted on 07/31/2005 6:44:15 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: furball4paws

39 posted on 07/31/2005 6:46:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry; furball4paws
I suggest you ask furball4paws to get on his Venus Flytrap list

Oh! Really. please add me. Thanks. :D

40 posted on 07/31/2005 6:47:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: furball4paws
For what it's worth, quite a few caterpillars of common species are cannibalistic. But it remains to be determined whether they do so in order to get some "meat" in their diet, or because it eliminates the competition -- too many caterpillars on the same hostplant at the same time can strip it entirely, causing all to starve. Eating others of your species whenever you run across them is a workable way to thin out the "herd" so that there's enough hostplant left to go around.

Our back yard is a certified National Wildlife Foundation habitat for butterflies/moths (not as hard to get as it might sound), and we raise caterpillars to help boost local populations (most species are on the decline because of habitat destruction). We've released over a hundred adult butterflies so far this year, and have about another hundred currently in the "pipeline". Keeping some of them from eating each other is part of the process. The Polydamas Swallowtails are especially bad in that regard -- we've lost over a dozen that way so far.

41 posted on 07/31/2005 6:47:22 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws
OH, yeh. I forgot about them. Maybe it wasn't so bad after all.

Now just *try* to get that song out of your head.

42 posted on 07/31/2005 6:51:04 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Yeah, but the singing twins were hot.

... They were on the sci-Fi Channel, last week; tue., wed., thur. 3:00am-5:00am I taped/erased them. LOL! Japanese B-films (1996ish). a real HOOT!

43 posted on 07/31/2005 6:52:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Ichneumon

Interesting, but this guy is more of a predator.


44 posted on 07/31/2005 6:52:18 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws

How long would it take this snail to eat a whacky lib? Can we test it and find out, LMAO!


45 posted on 07/31/2005 6:52:20 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (What do you like best about your life?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I'm not sure about what varieties are native to Honduras, but from the shape of the forewings it looks like some relative to the Atlas moth -- so named because it gets freakin' *huge*:


46 posted on 07/31/2005 6:53:45 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws
Interesting, but this guy is more of a predator.

Yup. But I'm wondering if the one type of behavior might have evolved into the other.

47 posted on 07/31/2005 6:54:51 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Hugin
..but a giant moth?... Yeah, but watch out if you're wearing a wool suit......HA! HA! LOL! :D
48 posted on 07/31/2005 6:54:57 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: rockabyebaby

OOOOOPs, read it wrong, can we test this caterpillar to see how long it would take to eat a lib/dem? LMAO!


49 posted on 07/31/2005 6:55:04 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (What do you like best about your life?)
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To: furball4paws; Baynative

But does it eat slugs? If so I want to start a small farm and raise these. They will sell GREAT here in the PNW.


50 posted on 07/31/2005 6:56:04 PM PDT by MarMema
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