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Republican: GOP Revolution Dying on Washington D.C. Vine
BayouBuzz ^ | 8/1/2005 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 08/01/2005 1:40:41 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Republican: GOP Revolution Dying on Washington D.C. Vine

For decades conservative Republicans dreamed of controlling the White House and Congress. The rallying cry was “If only we had the power, we could revolutionize this country and end the era of big government.” Well, in January 2001, it finally happened and the GOP took control of Congress and the White House. Since that time, it has held total control, except for a 17-month period in 2001-02. Yet, not only has Washington D.C. not been revolutionized, but spending has skyrocketed, deficits have ballooned and government has never been bigger.

What happened? It seems that Republicans in Congress only act like Republicans when Democrats are in charge. When the GOP has control, they change from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde and become the monsters they battled against.

Since 2001, Republicans have passed the pork barrel laden farm bill,

an all too expensive education bill, approved a massive new government bureaucracy, the Department of Homeland Security and added an unnecessary Medicare prescription benefit, which according to economist Stephen Moore is “the most financially irresponsible legislation of the last 30 years. “ The party of fiscal discipline is gone and Republicans have become addicted to the big government disease. In treating drug addicts, counselors always look for an important first step, the admission of a problem. Unfortunately, Republicans don’t see big government as a problem anymore, but just a way to buy votes from constituents also addicted to big government. Yet, this addiction is a true problem because as cogently observed by commentator Cal Thomas, “Government programs are the only sign of eternal life on earth! ”

In the last week, two more monstrosities were passed by the Republican controlled Congress, the energy bill and the transportation bill. Both bills are loaded with pork, include too many unnecessary projects and provide obscene perks for influential special interest groups. For example, in the $286.4 billion transportation bill, there is $230 million allocated for a bridge in Alaska to connect an island of 50 people to the mainland. It has been aptly called the “Bridge to Nowhere.” The energy bill authorizes spending of $66 billion and includes $14.5 billion in tax breaks. It doubles the domestic mandate for ethanol production to 7.5 billion gallons by 2012, giving corporate welfare to farmers and little benefit to consumers.

Our federal budget deficit is $333 billion, down from $412 billion last year, but truly “misleading” according to Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC), who believes that “Congress is raiding Social Security to mask the true size of the deficit.” What true deficit reduction has occurred had been due solely to increased tax revenues and not fiscal restraint.

Not only is there no fiscal discipline, there is no conservative agenda. Despite the President’s talk, there is no social security reform on the horizon and no real tax reform being seriously debated. Despite having control of Congress and the White House, Republicans are not pursuing a real conservative agenda, only more big government. For example, a true conservative agenda on the pressing issues of immigration reform, the real threats to the English language, or the multi-faceted culture war does not have the support of the GOP leadership in Congress or the White House and is in no danger of being passed. Republicans seem more interested in providing voters the security of big government than in effective border security.

But, isn’t the country doing so well due to visionary GOP policies? Maybe according to Republican lapdogs on talk radio and Fox News, but real America outside of the beltway knows better. Real wages declined in 2004 and the first quarter of 2005. Today, there are 22,000 fewer private sector jobs today than in March of 2001, when the recession started. Our stock market is stagnant, while gasoline prices keep rising and consumer debt and bankruptcies are skyrocketing. Our trade deficit just keeps going higher, and coupled with large budget deficits and purposely weak U.S. treasury policies, the dollar will continue to get pummeled in currency exchanges.

Today, the politically correct crowd rules the day and the Republicans do not have the will or in the inclination to do anything about it. A party that used to be defined by the mantra of smaller government and more individual freedom is basically indistinguishable from the Democrats on fiscal matters. With philosophical differences between the parties on domestic issues gone, is it any surprise that a new Gallup poll shows Americans becoming “more favorable to the Democratic Party.”  Voters will realize that if both parties stand for big government, they might as well support the real thing as opposed to the sick and confused imitation.

In Washington D. C. today, bringing home the bacon is the main goal, not advancing individual freedom or a conservative agenda. This is not what I signed up for as a Reagan Republican. If politics today is all about power, not ideology or principled differences, count me out. So, if the Republicans are not going to govern any differently than the Democrats, what’s the use?


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In Washington D. C. today, bringing home the bacon is the main goal, not advancing individual freedom or a conservative agenda. This is not what I signed up for as a Reagan Republican. If politics today is all about power, not ideology or principled differences, count me out.

So, if the Republicans are not going to govern any differently than the Democrats, what’s the use?


1 posted on 08/01/2005 1:40:41 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
So, if the Republicans are not going to govern any differently than the Democrats, what’s the use?

Haven't supported those worthless Big Stupid Government Republican bastards since '91 and the 'Rats since, well, never.

Screw both Big Stupid Government parties.

2 posted on 08/01/2005 1:42:43 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Happy2BMe

If you can't beat 'em, outspend 'em


3 posted on 08/01/2005 1:43:48 AM PDT by Now_is_The_Time
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To: Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Gipper08; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; ..
How long has it been since you were able to recognize the Republican Party?

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Republicans are not pursuing a real conservative agenda, only more big government. For example, a true conservative agenda on the pressing issues of immigration reform, the real threats to the English language, or the multi-faceted culture war does not have the support of the GOP leadership in Congress or the White House and is in no danger of being passed.

Republicans seem more interested in providing voters the security of big government than in effective border security.


4 posted on 08/01/2005 1:44:17 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
There is no threat to the "English language." The second generation Latinos that I have encountered in New York, Miami, and Chicago all prefer speaking English with their friends and Spanish with their parents. I agree about immigration reform, but you guys lose me on the "language" issue, which is a tempest in a teapot.

I'm frankly more concerned about the expansion of our government and that ever present threat to our constitutional freedoms than "cultural" issues.

5 posted on 08/01/2005 1:47:10 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Gondring

Big government Republican Ping!


6 posted on 08/01/2005 1:48:43 AM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: Clemenza

And how many times have you voted for a Republican President to lead this nation according to traditional conservative Republican values, sir?


7 posted on 08/01/2005 1:49:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: jan in Colorado; All; Barnacle; Salem; F15Eagle; dennisw; JohnHuang2; little jeremiah; GarySpFc; ...
The border issue is a major concern to most Americans.

However, there was an even larger concern on the minds of the Majority who voted President George W. Bush into his second term of office.

Anybody want to bring that one up?

8 posted on 08/01/2005 1:54:05 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
However, there was an even larger concern on the minds of the Majority who voted President George W. Bush into his second term of office.

Alex... What is the war on terror?

9 posted on 08/01/2005 2:08:45 AM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: Happy2BMe

When everything comes down to getting reelected then you get what you deserve.
I am an advocate of term limits which I believe would solve most of these problems.
The President had the momentum and lost it. At this juncture the only thing good that can happen from now until 2008 is we get two more Supreme Court appointments, because the issues I wanted addressed won't be.


10 posted on 08/01/2005 3:23:25 AM PDT by Recon Dad
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To: Happy2BMe
The rallying cry was “If only we had the power, we could revolutionize this country and end the era of big government.”

That was my point when someone recently suggested the govt should act as a nanny in the Holloway case and have committee's etc etc getting the govt involved yet once again. I am so tired of so-called conservatives wanting to spend, spend, spend and get involved in every area of our lives. Hello we are Republicans and conservatives, remember what that meant at one time??

11 posted on 08/01/2005 3:40:11 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Happy2BMe

Think of it this way... The Democrats put a lot of holes in the roof. In order to fix up the house, we have to spend a lot of money to patch the holes, maintain enough popularity to stay in power long enough to fix all the leaks, and defend the house from terrorists.

Not a set of tasks that lends itself to home repair.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 4:00:13 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Happy2BMe

Most of the spending is defense. Most have forgotten the reason, but 9/11 did happen. Deficits were the result but tax cuts have cut into them.

Plus, most forget that the balance of power was tenuous during Bush's first term so the dems had to be countered. Spending did go up, but what if there were dems in charge? Just check their spending bills. All in all, you can bitch and moan as much as you wish, but the real world of politics always trumps idealism, even with RR in charge. You will be happy with some outcomes and unhappy with others.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 4:04:18 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: Happy2BMe

Whine, whine.

Why not just vote Hillary and Howard Dean in and destroy the republican party.


14 posted on 08/01/2005 4:08:00 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: tkathy

I hate to say this, 'cuz I despise Hillary & the loud-mouthed Dean...but maybe electing Hillary & Dean is exactly what needs to be done in order to get conservatives w/in the GOP to take their party back. Of course it'll be a very bitter pill to swallow, but the GOP needs to be shaken up SOMEHOW. Its leadership is nothing but a big government one-world mirror image of the Dims.


15 posted on 08/01/2005 4:16:41 AM PDT by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: KeyWest
Evidently the facts just seem to get in the way of Bush bashing.

Not only do we have to content with a corrupt media, America hating liberals and assorted insane commentators, we have to deal with the likes of McCain and his band of cohorts who seek to thwart the President at every turn.

Frankly, I count my blessings every single day that we have this man in office.

The alternative is terrifying.

16 posted on 08/01/2005 4:28:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Happy2BMe

We'll see lots who refuse to admit", the admission of a problem" on this thread.


17 posted on 08/01/2005 4:31:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: tkathy; Happy2BMe
Why not just vote Hillary and Howard Dean in and destroy the republican party.

Really, if Bush is so bad, why not have some nads and vote your conscience, but STOP your incessant bitchin'!

18 posted on 08/01/2005 4:32:29 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Happy2BMe

Hillary!!!....Hillary!!Hillary!!Hillary!!


19 posted on 08/01/2005 4:35:19 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: coconutt2000
"In order to fix up the house, we have to spend a lot of money to patch the holes, maintain enough popularity to stay in power long enough to fix all the leaks,"

I guess that explains that explains the new pool ,cabana and landscaping
20 posted on 08/01/2005 4:35:22 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: tkathy; Happy2BMe
Whine, whine. Why not just vote Hillary and Howard Dean in and destroy the republican party

Anotheer day, another happy malcontent whine.

You can set your watch to their whinings.

21 posted on 08/01/2005 4:35:30 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: libertyman
I hate to say this, 'cuz I despise Hillary & the loud-mouthed Dean...but maybe electing Hillary & Dean is exactly what needs to be done in order to get conservatives w/in the GOP to take their party back.

Goodness gracious, now we have to listen to some Libt. dope smokin' hack give advise about what "needs to be done".

Yeah, go back to your room and take a couple more hits, bong boy!

22 posted on 08/01/2005 4:36:36 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: jan in Colorado

Thanks for the ping. A conservative Democrat is better than a liberal Republican, and it's ridiculous that we should have to make the choice.


23 posted on 08/01/2005 4:39:02 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: sirchtruth
Dope smokin Libertarians teaming up with malcontent buchannites wishing for a hillary presidency.

Talk about the blind leading the blind.

24 posted on 08/01/2005 4:39:47 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: grjr21
>Zing!<

bump

25 posted on 08/01/2005 4:41:24 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Dane
Dope smokin Libertarians teaming up with malcontent buchannites wishing for a hillary presidency.

Why don't they just go ahead and join the dem party, because they'd have a much better chance getting their dope smokin', pitchfork legislation passed...

26 posted on 08/01/2005 4:52:47 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: libertyman

This is circular firing squad thinking. The dims will flood the country with illegals, play the race card to the hilt, the reps will never get back in power. Wise up!


27 posted on 08/01/2005 4:59:07 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: tkathy

I no longer see any difference at all between the parties.

I wouldn't vote for either.

Hillary won't be any worse than any of the Cinos the GOP will try to stick us with in 08.


28 posted on 08/01/2005 5:25:51 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search CFR North American Community.)
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To: Hank Rearden
"Screw both Big Stupid Government parties."

Do unto them as they have done unto you. lol

29 posted on 08/01/2005 5:30:19 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: coconutt2000

Don't forget to add that the guy you hire to go to the lumber yard for materials to do the job ends up 9 out of 10 times at the local watering hole pissing away your budget.


30 posted on 08/01/2005 5:37:28 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: All
What happened?

IMO one illustration is immigration "reform."

It consists of changing the designation of ILLEGAL / undocumented workers to "guest workers." Question: do we get that bridge in Brooklyn with immigration "reform"?

Problem solved. Now shut up, America!

Message to businesses: crime pays (don't they know it!).

I make a distinction between traditional immigration and migrant ILLEGAL / "guest" workers, the latter, millions and millions of them here and millions and millions more on the way, generally have no intention of assimilating.

Just finished reading the thread. There are several political neophytes here who do not understand debate. Having a belief contrary to the "Party's position" is common. Free people have the responsibility to let the Party know. The Goldwater v. Rockefeller "debate" gave us Ronald Reagan. There's another Reagan out there somewhere. (Yes, I know President Reagan signed the 1986 amnesty / reforms, did he wink at the enforcement provisions of the reforms? I don't think so.)

31 posted on 08/01/2005 5:38:54 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Sadly, the author is 100% correct.


32 posted on 08/01/2005 5:41:58 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: OldFriend
The alternative is terrifying.

Unfortunately, much of what is stated in this article is true & I agree with. But I agree with you, the alternative is worse.

33 posted on 08/01/2005 5:42:16 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
It consists of changing the designation of ILLEGAL / undocumented workers to "guest workers." Question: do we get that bridge in Brooklyn with immigration "reform"?

Ah yes the buchanan/tancredoite arguement that people who grow/process food and build buildings etc are the moral equivalent and as inherantly evil as murderers and rapists.

34 posted on 08/01/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: sirchtruth; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Hank Rearden; Happy2BMe; Wolfie; Dane
Why don't they just go ahead and join the dem party...

If they republicans are going to act like democrats, what's the difference?

It doesn't matter who is in office, the end result is always the same...more big-spending government.

The truth is, there is no right or left. There is only right and wrong.

The party bosses and ardent followers would have you believe otherwise. They would have you believe that right is whatever particular party they belong to, and wrong is the political

Instead, both parties and most mainstream organizations funnel into the same end result: total control.

It’s been said that if you don’t like what the Republicans are doing, vote for the Democrats, and if you don’t like what Democrats are doing, vote Republican. It’s set up like a game. I have my favorite team, and you have yours. I’ll back my team no matter what, just as long as your team doesn’t win.

The problem is, both teams are full of scandalous figures who are so busy selling you and I out for their own personal gain, they have no time or desire to help our country in this time of need.

While we Americans are busy cheering our favorite politicos and jeering our least favorites, both sides are pursuing the policy of the destruction of America.

35 posted on 08/01/2005 5:45:02 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

There's a HUGE difference in parties. Just because a few irrelevant social beliefs shared by a minority are not being forced on the entire country, is not a reason to get silly.


36 posted on 08/01/2005 5:59:43 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: tkathy
There's a HUGE difference in parties.

There is a huge difference in party rhetoric, but at the end of the day, the actions of both parties are the same.

Some of you folks need to wake up instead of blindly following politicians simply because they arte Republicans.

37 posted on 08/01/2005 6:08:05 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: tkathy

For example, why did the Republicans pass another huge highway bill. Why didn't they reduce the federal gasoline tax by 3/4 and let the states increase their gas taxes by an equal amount and let the states deal with most of the highway building. Sounds pretty simple to me.


38 posted on 08/01/2005 6:10:58 AM PDT by HuronMan
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To: Happy2BMe
what’s the use?

Big Tax Cuts. Strong Military. Decent men and women in govt. instead of debauchery. School Vouchers. Greater emphasis on personal responsibility. Character matters. Conservative judicial appointments.

39 posted on 08/01/2005 6:18:19 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Dane
RE: migrant workers ILLEGAL and otherwise are "moral equivalent and as inherantly evil as murderers and rapists"

Say what? Why?

40 posted on 08/01/2005 6:19:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: libertyman

"but maybe electing Hillary & Dean is exactly what needs to be done in order to get conservatives w/in the GOP to take their party back'

Destroying the country for those aims is not a viable solution.


41 posted on 08/01/2005 6:22:36 AM PDT by DarthVader (Islam is not something to be understood, it is something that must be utterly destroyed)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Say what? Why?

Uh you in your reply #31 was saying people who own and run businesses growing/processing food and building building are as inherantly evil as murderers and rapists.

42 posted on 08/01/2005 6:22:56 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
It consists of changing the designation of ILLEGAL / undocumented workers to "guest workers."

I probably made 100 posts explaining to people who had nothing against legal immigrants, but were against illegal immigrants because "it was illegal" that there was not a lot of difference between Legal and Illegal.

43 posted on 08/01/2005 6:24:48 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: All
Well, the Republicans had damn well find another Reagan. Are they too lazy (arrogant?) to look?

They expect conservatives to accept BOHICA as a way of life? Are they going to play the Hillary card every time someone says something mean to them?

And what of the "Hispanic" vote?

Are Republicans saying that America has to excuse and accept millions and millions of ILLEGAL migrant workers to avoid upsetting Americans of Hispanic origin? That's an insult to those Americans.

I have no idea the country of my origin. It's one of two or three including Ireland. Ireland is a source of many ILLEGAL aliens. Many left recently owing to New York state's crackdown on drivers licenses. Good.

If the President said that we had to accept / excuse ILLEGAL aliens lest we alienate Irish voters I'd be insulted by it.

I'd get the idea that to Republicans I was less of an American than they feeeeeeeeeeel that they are. What a bunch of arrogant jerks. No vote for Hillary Rats but I'd have to wear haz-mat clothing to vote for a mainline Republican.

44 posted on 08/01/2005 6:28:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: HuronMan

OMG how awful to fix up our highways. Vote for Hillary!


45 posted on 08/01/2005 6:29:22 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: Happy2BMe; Reagan Man

" How long has it been since you were able to recognize the Republican Party?"

I am 23. I have never reconized the GOP as anything but socialist. There is hope though, we have to lift up the few who are conservative and pray for the best(Pence,Tancredo,
Shadegg,Coburn)


46 posted on 08/01/2005 6:31:28 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Dane
Cute.

I'll play.

I was talking about the businesses that hire the migrant workers though it's ILLEGAL to do so. Yes, a crime is a crime.

47 posted on 08/01/2005 6:32:11 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Happy2BMe
This is a great article.

I think part of the problem is entrenched interests which translates into career politicians of both parties. The only solution is term limits. Another solution is to forbid any member of the Bar, who is, in effect, an officer of the Court and hence a representative of the Judicial Branch of the Government from holding elected office in the legislature or the executive branches of the governments.

In COngress, it would appear the worst Republican offenders (RINOs) if you will, are entrenched long-time Senators like McCain, Hatch, and other boobs who call themselves Republicans while acting like Democrats or lack the testicular fortitude to stand up to the Rats whenever they are challenged, even though the Rats are in the minority.

If the Repubs blow it in Bush's Second term - and so far they have in the first two years of that term, its time for Conservatives to seriously reconsider their allegiance to this Party and form a third political party - one willing to shake up the system, and confront the Bolsheviks in the Democrat Party.

If this were to happen, the Republican Party would collapse like an empty eggshell with people like McCain, Chafee, and Snowe going over to the Democrats and losing their elected office as a result. And the Rats would find themselves facing a far more effective, leaner and meaner adversary.
48 posted on 08/01/2005 6:32:49 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

We have found another Reagan.It is Mike Pence of Indiana.It is up to us to spread the word and support Pence and allow his wing of the party to take over.

"Mike is charismatic. He's articulate, but he's not shrill or mean the way some conservatives can be," said Stephen Moore, former president of the Club for Growth, a conservative political action committee. "I think a lot of us are looking around and saying, 'Who is the next great conservative hero? Where is the next Ronald Reagan in our party?' The Committee has 100 members now. That's a high water mark. So it means that all legislation that passes Congress is going to have go through Mike Pence." ...... Pence has shown that he is not afraid to take unpopular stands. In the last Congress, he defied Bush, spearheading Republican opposition to the drug benefit that Bush wanted and speaking against the president's education initiative, No Child Left Behind Act.

"I was concerned that the ship of conservative governance was veering off course into the dangerous uncharted waters of big government Republicanism," Pence said. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54940-2005Mar21.html?referrer=emailarticle


49 posted on 08/01/2005 6:36:38 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I was talking about the businesses that hire the migrant workers though it's ILLEGAL to do so. Yes, a crime is a crime

So a business owner who grows/processes food or builds buildings, etc.etc. may hire an employee who shows up everyday, works hard and doesn't cause trouble is akin to a murderer or rapist to you.

50 posted on 08/01/2005 6:36:54 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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