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PA: Missing Prosecutor's Laptop Found in River (Center County DA Ray Gricar)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/1/05 | AP

Posted on 08/01/2005 8:09:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

BELLEFONTE, Pa. - Two fishermen found a laptop computer at the bottom of a river that belonged to a county prosecutor who has been missing for 3 1/2 months, police said Monday.

The laptop, which was missing its hard drive, was found Saturday in the Susquehanna River under a bridge, Bellefonte police said. The fishermen turned it over to state police who determined it belonged to Centre County District Attorney Ray F. Gricar.

Authorities had searched the river several times already. Dive teams searched it again Saturday and Sunday but found nothing else.

The computer's hard drive had either fallen out or had been removed before it was thrown into the river, police said.

Gricar, 59, vanished on April 15 after going for a drive on his day off. His car was found the next day in a parking lot about 45 miles from his home in central Pennsylvania.

Police have said they have few credible leads and have not ruled out foul play. So far, the disappearance doesn't appear to be connected to any of his cases, authorities have said.

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On the Net:

Gricar family site: http://www.raygricar.com/


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: centercounty; found; gricar; laptop; missing; pennsylvania; prosecutor; river

1 posted on 08/01/2005 8:09:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps I'm mistaken....but I've never seen a laptop where the hard drive can just "fall out". In my experience, they are usually a serious pain in the...um...you get my point!


2 posted on 08/01/2005 8:13:37 AM PDT by duffthor (Is it fishing time yet?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is it illegal to disappear? Why are the police involved?


3 posted on 08/01/2005 8:13:50 AM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine

They get a little suspicious when a prosecutor just up and disappears. It wasn't like him to do so.

The family filed a report as well. It's a mystery.


4 posted on 08/01/2005 8:15:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: duffthor
Certain laptops have just a release button on the bottom of the unit to remove the hard drive.

I will agree with your statement that most HD's on a laptop are a pain to remove.

5 posted on 08/01/2005 8:16:41 AM PDT by dts32041 ( Dear Senator Durbin, I am not an Illinois Nazi. (US ARMY RET))
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To: duffthor

Unless it was smashed... and then tossed in.


6 posted on 08/01/2005 8:16:47 AM PDT by johnny7 (Racially-profiling since 1963)
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To: NormsRevenge

What is the local speculation? Must be rumors...woman, drugs, thugs, etc...?


7 posted on 08/01/2005 8:17:24 AM PDT by dakine
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To: dts32041

Yeah but most of those you need to be holding the button while you pull the HDD out, right?


8 posted on 08/01/2005 8:19:57 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: dakine

no one likes to think it but foul play is most likely,,

he was divorced, had a daughter from first marriage, had a girlfriend, he did prosecute criminal cases, no indications of drugs, sex related issues. seemed like a solid person

this was on Greta not too long ago and pops up now and then,,

my own theory, the hard drive being gone may relate to an ongoing investigation he was working on, but no one has anything hard to offer as to what really happened.


9 posted on 08/01/2005 8:25:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge
The laptop, which was missing its hard drive, was found Saturday in the Susquehanna River under a bridge, Bellefonte police said.

The Susquehanna River has 2 branches, starts out in New York, and empties into the Chesepeake Bay in Maryland. It would be nice to know WHERE along the Susquehanna they found it.

10 posted on 08/01/2005 8:29:54 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; jerseygirl; WestCoastGal

ping


11 posted on 08/01/2005 8:30:50 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp Meet YOUR Communist party members in Congress)
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To: dakine

Well, the problem is that the man's brother committed suicide a couple of years ago, at almost the same site that the car was found.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 8:35:14 AM PDT by Eva
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To: duffthor

Then again, this is the media reporting this - it could have been the media bay CD Rom drive that was missing.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 8:39:32 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: kx9088
Yes and no.

Like all things constructed by man there are numerous exceptions to the rules.

Usually that is the way two buttons and then it is out, but I have seen one button releases.

14 posted on 08/01/2005 8:41:59 AM PDT by dts32041 ( Dear Senator Durbin, I am not an Illinois Nazi. (US ARMY RET))
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To: NormsRevenge

Missing DA's laptop, but not hard drive, found in river

Associated Press

BELLEFONTE, Pa. - Two fishermen found the laptop computer of a top county prosecutor missing for 3 1/2 months, police said Monday.

The anglers found the computer at the bottom of the Susquehanna River under a bridge in Lewisburg on Saturday and turned it over to state police. The bridge is a couple blocks down from the parking lot in which Centre County District Attorney Ray F. Gricar's car was found on April 16, the day after he was reported missing.

State police determined the computer belonged to Gricar, but also discovered that its hard drive was missing. Authorities say the hard drive either fell out or was removed before the computer was thrown into the river.

Bellefonte Police Chief Duane Dixon said that makes it highly unlikely that police will be able to recover clues from the computer about Gricar's whereabouts.

"It's another piece to the puzzle but it doesn't lead us anywhere," Dixon said in an interview with reporters at police headquarters. Police still classify the investigation as a missing persons case.

Divers were sent into the river Saturday and Sunday but found no other evidence, Dixon said. It's unclear how long the computer was in the river, though it started rusting soon after being pulled from the water, he said.

Gricar vanished April 15 after going for a drive on his day off. His red-and-white Mini Cooper was found the next day in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 45 miles from his home in Bellefonte in central Pennsylvania.

Authorities had searched the river several times already. Dixon said the river where the laptop was found is about 4 1/2 to 5 feet deep, which is shallower than when divers first went into the Susquehanna in the weeks after Gricar disappeared.

The fishermen found the laptop in the middle of the river when one of their nets snagged it, police said.

Gricar, 59, was supposed to retire in December after more than two decades as Centre County's top prosecutor. So far, the disappearance doesn't appear to be connected to any of his cases, authorities have said.

Police have said they have few credible leads and have not ruled out any scenarios, including foul play.

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/12275628.htm


15 posted on 08/01/2005 8:43:02 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Born Conservative

Thanks!


16 posted on 08/01/2005 8:46:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: duffthor

I've heard of a computer described as "only useful as a boat anchor" but I never thought anyone would try it.


17 posted on 08/01/2005 8:52:04 AM PDT by anonymous_user (You gotta be passionate about something. I guess.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Your welcome. I did a Google News search, and most of the articles didn't include the exact location (Lewisburg). This is extremely pertinent to the story, since the Susquehanna doesn't flow through Bellefonte, and the guy went missing in Lewisburg.


18 posted on 08/01/2005 8:54:40 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seems like I read that he had recently made a multi-million dollar drug bust.

19 posted on 08/01/2005 8:55:37 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Born Conservative

This is the other branch that goes through State College, Bellefonte, Williamsport and joins the east branch at Northumberland/Sunbury.
This is a good mystery. Gricar worked at the Centre County building in Bellefonte. Among his hobbies were collecting antiques, including toys. He was from Cleveland and always talked about the Indians. He told his girlfriend he was taking a drive on his day off. His car was found at an antiques mall 60 miles away in Lewisburg. But with cig ashes on the floor -- something's wrong there.
Some people in Wilkes-Barre said they say him three days after he disappeared. Bartender said he was wearing a suit and talked about the Indians. He left home in jeans. Credit cards, bank activity, nothing.
Now, his computer is found three months later back in Bellefonte.
Good mystery. Did he get jumped in Bellefonte by a smoker who coincidentally left the car where Gricar might go?
More likely, he removed and destroyed the hard drive, threw the computer in the river, decided that wasn't a good place to jump in and commit suicide in a river like his brother did nine years ago and drove to Lewisburg where the river is deeper.
Had a girlfriend, like to drink a bit, divorced. Did he pick up smoking rough trade and pay the price? Meet somebody shady in Lewisburg and get killed?


20 posted on 08/01/2005 8:58:00 AM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: duffthor

Sounds like somebody knew too much.


21 posted on 08/01/2005 9:01:16 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: jjmcgo

My bad; I didn't realize it went that far west.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Branch_Susquehanna_River


22 posted on 08/01/2005 9:05:47 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jjmcgo

See post #15; the computer was found in the river in Lewisburg.


23 posted on 08/01/2005 9:07:19 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stinkerpot65

There must be some nervous CIs out there.

It is a shame he's dead, but working in a corrupt system of paid snitches, no matter your personal integrity, is not a life I owuld lead.


24 posted on 08/01/2005 9:27:41 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Born Conservative

Thanks. I sent a message to the webmaster to remove the post due to its incorrect geography lesson. Also, that was a good catch by you finding that the computer was tossed in the river near where his car was found in Lewisburg. There's a whole long thread on this site: http://www.lion-country.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=384&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
It also contains some far out stuff from a local tinfoil hatter, Fenton.


25 posted on 08/01/2005 9:33:21 AM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: jjmcgo


jjmcgo..

That branch doesn't go through State College or Bellefonte.

It goes out to Lock Haven and then up Rt. 120 past Renovo and up towards Emporium.


26 posted on 08/01/2005 9:40:52 AM PDT by Syds Dad
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To: Born Conservative

It doesn't go that far west.. See post above.


27 posted on 08/01/2005 9:41:49 AM PDT by Syds Dad
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To: jjmcgo; Born Conservative

Unless I'm thinking of something completely different?! I could be wrong, who knows.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't run through Bellefonte or State college though. I always thought it went up north of there through the mountains.


28 posted on 08/01/2005 9:46:30 AM PDT by Syds Dad
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To: Syds Dad

Thanks; my knowledge of PA Geography for any area west of Lewisburg is not that good. I remember now that it comes down from Lock Haven, and doesn't go to Bellefonte. I guess I was right the first time.


29 posted on 08/01/2005 11:03:43 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Born Conservative

I think I heard on local radio that the bridge where the computer was found was not that far down river of Lewisburg.


31 posted on 08/01/2005 12:13:05 PM PDT by Syds Dad
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To: Syds Dad

It was found under a bridge in Lewisburg; see post 15.


32 posted on 08/01/2005 12:20:45 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Born Conservative

Laptop found in West Branch of Susquehanna about 200 yards downstream from where his car was found. PA Rt. 45 bridge in the east end of the Boro of Lewisburg. I put out the BOLO to the PA Bureau of Forestry 4/16/05 10:30AM. We had a plane on fire patrol and checked Rts. 45 and 192 in the Bald Eagle State Forest. If Ray jumped (or was pushed, dead or alive) into the river his body would have been found within three months somewhere north of Three Mile Island.


33 posted on 09/21/2005 11:59:12 PM PDT by tomfuller
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To: Eva

Ray's brother committed suicide in Ohio by jumping in another river. Rays girlfriend Patty Fornicola saw no sign of suicidal tendencies.


34 posted on 09/22/2005 12:04:37 AM PDT by tomfuller
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