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Posted on 08/02/2005 5:16:46 AM PDT by SJackson
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LMAO! Dream on. Anyone can, at anytime slip across the Canadian border, along either coast, and Mexico. Are you going to wall off the entire country? One big prison complex? Put a roof over it and call it an insane asylum.
One doesn't even have to crawl through mosquito infested bogs, and forrest choked thickets to cross the border. just wait for the border guards to go home at some locations, and drive over the rubber cones they put on the road.
The answer is as mentioned above, we must fight this war over there, but we have to have the will to do it, which as we can see just isn't there. Maybe it will be there after we take a few hits, and quit trying to fight a PC war.
Looks like Joseph Farah is looking to be the new Art Bell.
Either spend the money for physical border barriers and more patrol personnel, or just 'French yourself' to the enemy over the problem.
I see no problems with the US suspending all foreign aid until the barriers and personnel are in place and diverting that money to a more worthy cause.
Judging the response when Cong. Tancredo made his comments, I would say you are right. We don't have the will. We don't even have the will to spell out to them what the consequences of such an act would be. We didn't have the will to kick them out of our country after 9/11. And obviously, we don't have the will to rid our country of these vipers before they can act again.
Perhaps there's a Julian/Gregorian Calendar misunderstanding.
I agree, while we are as a nation generous, companionate, reasonable and generally wise, we are also quite capable of unleashing unspeakable horror when the situation calls for it.
What may seem unthinkable to us today may tomorrow seem like a measured and reasonable response to a crisis situation. This is not a country to back into a corner. Even I fear what a frightened and vengeful America could unleash.
Not if, but when.
Doesn't matter if he was. This is a different scenario that is confirmed by lots of other sources not connected to WND and Farrah, even by Putin himself in a veiled threat several years ago contained in a speech directed at the US, in which he said that some of the tactical nukes that disappeared from Russia's inventory after the fall of the USSR could end up in the "wrong hands".
Defected former soviet KGB and military people have confirmed this as well, such as Col. Lunev.
That Al Kayda has nukes is kind of old news actually.
It's been well known around DC and other circles that soon after 9-11, Bush sent a message to Osama that should another attack take place on his watch, that Mecca would be turned into a sheet of green glass.
Odds are that Osama is waiting for Bush to leave office.
if NY or LA went up in ball of fire, GOP could do anything they wanted and still win next election, millions of demoncrat votes would disappear instantly.
Which means little or nothing to most Westerners, to whom he (may the sand of a thousand deserts lodge in his skivvies) is trying to make the ultimate point, sir. When you're trying to reach someone, you have to understand their symbolism.
What does that have to do with making a point? That was one of the first lines I read, and it tainted the whole article. I don't think this guy knows what the hell he's talking about. Buried Russian nukes in the US? How have they maintained them? how have we not detected the radiation? It makes no sense.
On the other hand, if you have a platform and yell "AL QEADA HAS NUKES!" it'll get you noticed!
So your going to build an electrified wall across the entire southern and northern borders? And on all the coastal areas too?
Reducing crime is one thing.
Reducing the chance of a nuclear device going off here is entirely something else. If your solution for that is the wall, it will be a total failure.
A truly "born again" Christian can't be a "psychic" per Deuteronomy 18. Being "a psychic" is the practice of divination, which The Lord does NOT take kindly to. Whatever follows then, is discredited, as it's NOT God that he's hearing from.
Much if not all of the Muslim world views America as nothing but a "paper tiger" that would be unable to respond when such a thing happens.
The one we are losing to Mexico?
We aren't even fighting.
I may not agree with Farrar's conclusions here, but there is no anti-semitism. You'll note Farrar's strong condemnation of what he claims is the exclusion of Arab Jews from sensitive national security posts.
Great. Farah's a kook. I never knew that.
I had googled for the 'dream' and was just posting it when i saw your post. I am now bummed out.
WooHoo! Thank you!
You can't POSSIBLY be that naive. Since when does a little issue like death prevent a democrat from voting?
Not until after all the vaporized leaders were replaced.
Yes, that is true. What is also true is that our beloved New York (still in America) had more republican votes for Bush than ANY OTHER STATE. Folks should'nt forget that fact, just because they are so outnumbered there, thats still a lotta right-minded people there.
Read Phyllis Schlafly's summary for a start.
However, a much more simpler solution is for military patrols. If caught illegally in this country and after a thorough investigation to verify the perpetrator's legal or illegal presence, kids and all, are then executed by firing squad with televised action back to those around the world. It is a harsh solution, but it would be effective. Either that or put the captured illegals into labor camps for a year building the wall(s) and give them 3 hots & a cot. After one year of labor, they have the option of telling us where they came from to deport them or they can simply work 7 days a week for the next year for food and shelter; no money. Also, we need a law barring forever coming back to the country again anyone caught entering illegally; no need to apply. If the risks are too great to come into this country illegally, then most will wait to get it done legally. CAFTA just screwed us with security and immigration. Such laws can be implemented and enforced, however, seems that US businessmen and international corporations prefer the US turn a blind eye as to exploit slave (cheap) labor to improve their bottoms lines and bonuses.
I know it all sounds a little crazy, but as of now, no punishment is being handed to those coming in illegally. We have the money available to build the wall and fence. I guess we should let all the US criminals out of jail now as we now have no effective means, ugggh....I mean an unwilling government, to stop foreign criminals from simply walking across our borders. Can't discriminate can we? IMHO, anyone against implementation of illegal entry deterrents is a bleeding heart liberal, currently using illegal labor for their own gain, or simply doesn't really care.
BTW, how would a physical electronically monitored barrier to keep people and vehicles from simply driving over the borders be a total failure with respect to security? Security of coastal areas are another issue entirely. Unsecured borders is a big problem. It is impossible to instantaneously remove all radicals around the world that want to terrorize the US with a nuke detonation and attempt to bring us one here for the fireworks. So, I guess it's cheaper to rebuild the downtown of a major city after a nuke detonation than to erect a wall/fence combo and forget innocent folks perishing in the process?
I'd like to hear your solution on increasing border security or are you simply content to just let a nuke or dirty bomb detonate and hope it's not where you live?
One final note, I don't like the situation at all, however, it has been forced upon us in this country, so, how do we improve the situation? Keep in mind also, 2/3 of those in this world want to live next door and work next door to you and me. Is there enough room and water for that to happen and are US citizens responsible for every individuals economic, physical, educational, and spiritual demise?
Please forgive what may sound as a harsh tone as a reply to you, it is not a personal attack on you or your comment. I'm just more fed up with the Fed's, states' and locals' BS and unwillingness to enforce our current laws as they have been sworn to uphold, that's all.
Phyllis Schlafly has written a summary(sourced) explaining exactly why nothing will be done to protect the borders.
Friend of Reagan and Conservative Icon.
Quote: If DC were turned into a parking lot, you can bet there'd be political will to wipe Mecca off the map.
I would also guess PC would immediately go out the window and all muslims would be rounded up and detained.
Thank you for the link.
"I would also guess PC would immediately go out the window and all muslims would be rounded up and detained."
PC is dying now, albeit a little too slow for my tastes. But you are right a nuke in any US city and PC will only be a bad memory. It would be a very bad time for any Mid-Eastern person in this country.
"Great. Farah's a kook. I never knew that."
No he is NOT!!! If he is then so is President Bush, who has been talking about Nucular (bad spelling intended) attacks for years, so has Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condonlizza Rice, and everyone else in the government who has studied terrorism at all.
Mr Farah is simply trying to get the word out, and my personal opinion on the timing is simply because he believes by publishing the intended dates, that perhaps Osama won't nuke us on those days because he wants an element of surprise.
But nuke us he will, and it is time for us to take the blinders off and simply prepare. Preparations are not so difficult, and the first step is simply to get educated on the facts and then put in a few supplies. It also helps to learn the facts versus the myths of nuclear warfare, as well as understand that we the people have been LETHARGIC about the true state of our world and what needs to happen in terms of Civil Defense.
Here are a few links to get you all started...
Y2K was NOT a non-event. Business spent 100 BILLION dollars to fix the problem, I know because I watched the numbers very closely, and my husband worked personally on the problem for his company as a computer engineer. The money spent on Y2K contributed to the dot.com fiasco, and to say that Farah encouraging people to get prepared for a potential Y2K disaster means he has no credibility is just bunk. Y2K could have been a huge disaster without the whisteblowers sounding the alarm a couple years before it happened.
PPSS For Jesus's warning about what is going to happen in the future just read Matthew 24. All Christians and bible believers should be preparing for a time of societal chaos.
The difference between President Bush and Joseph Farah is that Farah has had the guts to publish a potential date along with his information, a date that is three days away....I'm sure this was a difficult decision to make, knowing that he could be heckled and dissed for even suggesting it, but the fact is that Muslim extremists have wanted to nuke the US for a long, long time... If not saturday, then perhaps another time...
This is what I mean by a kook.
I meant Farah's reference to the tinfoil-hat conspiracy stuff. The conspiracy bunch believes that there's one small group of people that controls everything, and that each election is fixed in advanced, decided in some smokey backroom, years in advance. The Federal Reserve's in on it, the FBI, CIA, the Rockefellers, and of course the mainstream press. Both Bush and his dad are in on it, and are puppets of the "secret committee."
So if that's the case, why does the press hate him so much?
but everything IS a conspiracy....right?
PS Chortled out loud when I read your user name.
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