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An American Hiroshima?
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 8-2-05 | Jamie Glazov/Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/02/2005 5:16:46 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
No one in the Department of Energy takes these threats seriously. The amount of maintenance it takes to keep these bombs in working order is sunstantial. It also very unlikely that they could maintain these weapons without being discovered.

While I agree that the borders should be closed for security reasons, many believe this entire "Sky is Falling" hypothesis is simply about pushing an agenda to close the borders. Creating boogey-man stories is an age-old trick to get create panic to get what you want.

The real fear of nuclear attack on U.S. soil is actually water-borne. A tanker on a ship or a trawler which has allowed the terrorists to maintain the device until detonation. Nuclear terrorism probably is inevitable, but not as descibed by Farah.

41 posted on 08/02/2005 6:50:35 AM PDT by NYCRebublican (No more Slimes)
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To: Obadiah

Even in death and murder, liberals will blame themselves.

42 posted on 08/02/2005 6:54:14 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: SJackson
Nukes require lots of maintenance on a regular basis. The tritium component has a half-life of 10-12 years. It decays into helium and damages the bomb components. Tritium can only be made in a reactor in a very controlled reaction.

Suitcase nukes are even more difficult to work on and require more maintenance. If AQ gets one of those 1980's suitcase nukes, it's very likely to just fizzle and make some Russians very rich.
43 posted on 08/02/2005 6:58:00 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: SJackson

Don't get too excited about this:

Behind The Lines - Dr. Jack Wheeler
Thursday, July 14, 2005
So many of you have asked me about an alleged Al Qaeda plan called “American Hiroshima” – the multiple detonation of nukes smuggled in to the US – that I must respond, even though some very good friends of mine for whom I have high regard have been taken in by the fellow who’s making the claim.

That would be Paul L. Williams, who has been peddling this stuff for a long time. The funniest example is Williams’ claim that “documents captured in Afghanistan show that Al Qaeda had plans to assemble nuclear weapons with fissile material purchased on the black market.” A nuclear scientist friend of mine with all the requisite Pentagon security clearances could not stop laughing when I discussed this with him.

“I’ve seen those documents,” he told me, “and believe it or not, they are copied from an article in a science humor magazine called The Journal of Irreproducible Results. It was entitled “How to Build an Atom Bomb,” and these Al Qaeda-Taliban idiots didn’t know it was a put-on. It’s full of physics jargon and seems impressive – but when the article instructs you to make the shock wave focusing lens out of Playdough, you’ve got to be a retard not to get the gag. Living in an Afghan cave can do that to you.”

The rest of this article can be seen at (Requires a subscription)

44 posted on 08/02/2005 7:09:45 AM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777

I hadn't read that before. Funny.

45 posted on 08/02/2005 7:20:06 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: linkinpunk

Y2K was a boondoggle. I worked on Clinton's Y2K Program. Biggest waste of taxpayers money you ever saw.

46 posted on 08/02/2005 7:22:46 AM PDT by DarthVader (Islam is not something to be understood, it is something that must be utterly destroyed)
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To: mentor2k

I hadn't read that before. Funny.

It would be even funnier if so many did not take this whole thing so seriously.

47 posted on 08/02/2005 7:25:31 AM PDT by rob777
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To: NYCRebublican

yup , I agree with you , however,the likelihood of smallish dirtybombs is disturbing ,...the moonshiners learned how to retrofit heavyduty springs on vehicles so they'd appear normal,large SUVs[Chevy Suburban] don't get stopped all the time as they make their way into cities ,...BTW , I saw a beer truck,independant distributor's name scrawled on the cab door,flying down Broadway right past a NYPD precinct car,clearly WAY OVER the speed limit,not stopped

48 posted on 08/02/2005 7:29:51 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: rob777
The rest of the article further debunks other claims related to this whole "American Hiroshima" theory.
49 posted on 08/02/2005 7:30:29 AM PDT by rob777
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To: SJackson

Can somebody please post the pic of the "Not this Sh@t again" guy?

Thanks in advance!

50 posted on 08/02/2005 7:31:36 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: RSmithOpt
" Will it be 100%, no, but it will sure as hell slow down the criminal activity element."

LMAO! Dream on. Anyone can, at anytime slip across the Canadian border, along either coast, and Mexico. Are you going to wall off the entire country? One big prison complex? Put a roof over it and call it an insane asylum.

One doesn't even have to crawl through mosquito infested bogs, and forrest choked thickets to cross the border. just wait for the border guards to go home at some locations, and drive over the rubber cones they put on the road.

The answer is as mentioned above, we must fight this war over there, but we have to have the will to do it, which as we can see just isn't there. Maybe it will be there after we take a few hits, and quit trying to fight a PC war.

51 posted on 08/02/2005 7:32:21 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: SJackson

Looks like Joseph Farah is looking to be the new Art Bell.

52 posted on 08/02/2005 8:02:35 AM PDT by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: lugsoul

Oops. lol.

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To: Nathan Zachary
Well, from my training in strategic tactics, soldiers are trained in tactics to protect their flanks and to keep a good eye on your 6. Otherwise, you set yourself up for a sucker punch.

Either spend the money for physical border barriers and more patrol personnel, or just 'French yourself' to the enemy over the problem.

I see no problems with the US suspending all foreign aid until the barriers and personnel are in place and diverting that money to a more worthy cause.

54 posted on 08/02/2005 8:27:32 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Maceman

Judging the response when Cong. Tancredo made his comments, I would say you are right. We don't have the will. We don't even have the will to spell out to them what the consequences of such an act would be. We didn't have the will to kick them out of our country after 9/11. And obviously, we don't have the will to rid our country of these vipers before they can act again.

55 posted on 08/02/2005 10:09:54 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: lugsoul

Perhaps there's a Julian/Gregorian Calendar misunderstanding.

56 posted on 08/02/2005 10:16:27 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: DB
I don't know. If literally LA or NY was gone in a flash with millions dead there would be no limit to our rage.

I agree, while we are as a nation generous, companionate, reasonable and generally wise, we are also quite capable of unleashing unspeakable horror when the situation calls for it.

What may seem unthinkable to us today may tomorrow seem like a measured and reasonable response to a crisis situation. This is not a country to back into a corner. Even I fear what a frightened and vengeful America could unleash.

57 posted on 08/02/2005 11:58:42 AM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: Dean Baker

Not if, but when.

58 posted on 08/02/2005 12:02:33 PM PDT by TBall
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To: linkinpunk
No offense to Joseph Farah fans, but wasn't he one of the Y2K alarmists a few years ago?

Doesn't matter if he was. This is a different scenario that is confirmed by lots of other sources not connected to WND and Farrah, even by Putin himself in a veiled threat several years ago contained in a speech directed at the US, in which he said that some of the tactical nukes that disappeared from Russia's inventory after the fall of the USSR could end up in the "wrong hands".

Defected former soviet KGB and military people have confirmed this as well, such as Col. Lunev.

That Al Kayda has nukes is kind of old news actually.

59 posted on 08/02/2005 12:05:48 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: TypeZoNegative
If they want to make an American Hiroshima, they better damn well be prepared for an "Islamic Atlantis". Nuke them until the Arabic tetonic plate sinks into the ocean.

It's been well known around DC and other circles that soon after 9-11, Bush sent a message to Osama that should another attack take place on his watch, that Mecca would be turned into a sheet of green glass.

Odds are that Osama is waiting for Bush to leave office.

60 posted on 08/02/2005 12:14:37 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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