posted on 08/02/2005 5:16:47 AM PDT
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posted on 08/02/2005 5:18:37 AM PDT
(America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
Seems pretty obvious what Osama is up to. Of course, unlike Hiroshima, the victim has the capacity to dish out more than it takes. If Osama blows up DC, for example, then the entire Muslim world could be wiped off the map in 5 minutes.
posted on 08/02/2005 5:20:34 AM PDT
Why wouldn?t the Bush administration secure our borders? What are the advantages of leaving them unsecured?...
Google search CFR North American Community.
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posted on 08/02/2005 5:24:29 AM PDT
('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
It would also spell disaster for President Bush and the GOP if it should occur.
If and when it happens, the borders will be sealed and the gnashing of teeth will start about "when did you know it and why wasn't anything done to protect us..."?
And of course, that would be an excellent question.
Poltical correctness will defeat the USA.
posted on 08/02/2005 5:26:24 AM PDT
The slyly included "New World Order" references to a mass conspiracy. I'll give 'em credit for not mentioning the Skull and Bones ....
Does anyone know what ID Art Bell uses on this site? I'm sure he's got the happy fingers at this point.
posted on 08/02/2005 5:43:43 AM PDT
While looking for something completely unrelated over the weekend I found a story about some people near Atlanta. According to this story a couple people in that general area have had this dream that they were in some underground shopping center in Atlanta. I don't know if there is one there, I have never been there. According to this story there is a nuclear explosion in Atlanta that wipes out CNN etc. I don't put stories about dreams on my favorites so I don't have a link, sorry. It also said that all of those people who had that dream actually moved immediately. It just struck me as interesting but I don't put much stock into it.
posted on 08/02/2005 5:48:19 AM PDT
(American media...Petty is their nature , tragic their effect.)
The list is based on where most American Jews live.
This article really reminds me of that report, in the early hours of the tube bombings, that Ben. Netyahoo had an early warning of the impending attack. A report that was quickly discounted later that day.
So here, we have the Sum of all Fears article, by a Christian, which directly points to the reason for 'American Hiroshima'.
And now, I, if I am not analyzing, am faced with a reaction: how should I feel about the Jews,as specifically implied by this article, who are the, what, cause, source, genesis, reason, ... for this threat?
But, I am analyzing (and granted, maybe not effectively). And I find this article, like that tube report, to be just about a fool-proof way to fuel antisemitism. Why are reports appearing?
I am puzzled ... why are more and more articles and reports which seem to be pre-designed to generate antisemitism appearing w/ greater frequency?
Because to me, this article seems to have only two possible purposes: actually warn us of a real threat, or make us have terrible feelings about Jews. Frankly, I think it is the latter.
And given the outright admission he is a Christian, I wonder what, in the end, this article is meant to generate with regards to feelings about ... Christians.
I'd love to have an alternative train of thought here ... for this article was REALLY depressing.
posted on 08/02/2005 5:53:47 AM PDT
I seriously doubt Al Qaeda has access to actual nuclear bombs and I have always had doubts about the veracity of the stories of Russian nukes long hidden on US soil.
However, Al Qaeda does have the capability of making and delivering "dirty bombs" conventional high explosive devices laced with radioactive isotopes, that could readily accomplish their aim of sowing terror in the US. HBO has recently broadcast a chilling British TV movie called "The Dirty War" about Islamic terrorists detonating such a dirty bomb in London. That scenario is far more plausible than Al Qaeda detonating hidden Russian nukes.
If they want to make an American Hiroshima, they better damn well be prepared for an "Islamic Atlantis". Nuke them until the Arabic tetonic plate sinks into the ocean.
posted on 08/02/2005 6:17:31 AM PDT
(Future Minnesota Refugee)
From the looks of his moustache we're gonna have a long, cold winter.
posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:05 AM PDT
(Mexico, the 51st state.)
Bringing up the CFR and a new world order really makes Farah not very reliable at all here.
"It was his decision not to secure the borders."
Thousands of sleepers is a stretch, Mr. Farah....and they were here long before Bush even got ino office.
posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:54 AM PDT
There seems to be a toss up as to whether Bin Laden gets us first, or the Mexicans, or the Central American gangs - I'd say the lives of the American citizen is hanging in the balance.
posted on 08/02/2005 6:34:28 AM PDT
(How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
No one in the Department of Energy takes these threats seriously. The amount of maintenance it takes to keep these bombs in working order is sunstantial. It also very unlikely that they could maintain these weapons without being discovered.
While I agree that the borders should be closed for security reasons, many believe this entire "Sky is Falling" hypothesis is simply about pushing an agenda to close the borders. Creating boogey-man stories is an age-old trick to get create panic to get what you want.
The real fear of nuclear attack on U.S. soil is actually water-borne. A tanker on a ship or a trawler which has allowed the terrorists to maintain the device until detonation. Nuclear terrorism probably is inevitable, but not as descibed by Farah.
Nukes require lots of maintenance on a regular basis. The tritium component has a half-life of 10-12 years. It decays into helium and damages the bomb components. Tritium can only be made in a reactor in a very controlled reaction.
Suitcase nukes are even more difficult to work on and require more maintenance. If AQ gets one of those 1980's suitcase nukes, it's very likely to just fizzle and make some Russians very rich.
posted on 08/02/2005 6:58:00 AM PDT
Can somebody please post the pic of the "Not this Sh@t again" guy?
Thanks in advance!
posted on 08/02/2005 7:31:36 AM PDT
(Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
Looks like Joseph Farah is looking to be the new Art Bell.
posted on 08/02/2005 8:02:35 AM PDT
by Dean Baker
(Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
"Dates are very important to al-Qaida, as we have come to know, and one of the dates mentioned in connection with this "American Hiroshima" plan is Aug. 6, the anniversary of the U.S. nuclear attack on Hiroshima in 1945. No year has been set, but it is worth noting that this Aug. 6th is the 60th anniversary of that attack."
They also go by an Islamic calendar, dumbass.
posted on 08/02/2005 12:41:11 PM PDT
"There is a master plan ... being plotted in meetings ...the Council on Foreign Relations. ... this open-borders policy is a direct result of those plans, which have been secretly adopted by our highest leaders, including President Bush."
Great. Farah's a kook. I never knew that.
posted on 08/02/2005 2:49:58 PM PDT
(...or the false prophet at the very least.)
posted on 08/07/2005 6:02:01 AM PDT
by Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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