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Ohio Special Election Open Thread (Final results Schmidt: 52%; Hackett: 48% Demos lose again)

Posted on 08/02/2005 6:53:19 AM PDT by watsonfellow

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To: writmeister

Yes, and he would have been defeated if he had run for reelection, due to his opposition to the Mexican-American War. But he regained the respect of the community.


741 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: writmeister

I am from Oklahoma and I second the nomination of Inhofe and Coburn -- those guys are great!


742 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:42 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: atlanta67

atlanta67, I think you mean well, but don't forget this: We LOST (I repeat **LOST**) two GOP house seats to Democrats in special elections prior to the 2004 general election. One of them was in South Dakota, one of the most Republican states in the union in presidential elections. And yet just a few months later President Bush won re-election and swept the GOP to gains in both the House & the Senate.

Don't read too much into this. This was a special election where A) the Republicans had a bruising primary, B) the Democrat was an Iraqi war veteran who hid his party affiliation and tried to sound conservative, C) the locals were mad at the GOP governor, and D) the Democrats poured a TON of money into the race in hopes of winning and thus "embarrassing" President Bush.


743 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:43 PM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Coop

Explain how for the Democrats? I hate to say I predicted this but I did. We got lazy, overconfident it's that simple. The democrats are hungry, remember the 90's? Did we get where we are because we sat around and assured ourselves we would win because we were right. Geezz.

I'm sorry to rant but win or lose on this one, we still are getting beaten.

Hackett did not run as a republican (it's a sad excuse). If running as a republican is calling the POTUS a chicken hawk then I don't want to be a republican. Hackett got this far pretending to be a straight shooter and GOTV.

Sorry I'm kind of upset.


744 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:46 PM PDT by JNL
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To: Fledermaus

""Nafta was signed by GHWB, not Clinton""

Signed by GWH Bush ratified when Clinton was Pres


745 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:54 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Flux Capacitor

Anyone have the latest numbers??


746 posted on 08/02/2005 7:14:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Torie
Whomever said Schmidt by 2% was a genius.

Darn sure wasn't me. I figured Schmidt by 7%. W T H do I know? LOL!

747 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:10 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Confirm justice Roberts!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Next year's senate races loom huge. It isn't too early to start filling the war Republican war chests and grinding out the fight nose to nose in the trenches against the Dems.

The Dems are way beyond desperate to win and they're going to use kicks to the groin, they'll throw wild roundhouse rights, rabbit punches, and head butts; they'll bite, they'll urinate and bleed on their opponents. The filthier and dirtier the tactic, the more likely they'll do it.

They want a fight? We're far stronger and more capable. We have to give them a fight, and we can't hold ANYTHING back. There is an opportunity to break them utterly and send them the way of the Whigs, but only if we unite and act decisively.

748 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:14 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: canadiancapitalist
Cornyn, has been turning heads with his leadership. I am impressed.
749 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:32 PM PDT by mware
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To: atlanta67

Right. Took effect in 1994.


750 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:45 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I wish those on the Left would just do us all a favor and take themselves out of their misery.)
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To: Flux Capacitor
This was also a special election.

Normal trends get thrown out the window.

751 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:47 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: expatpat
look at the dweeb in the red pants!

That's Voinovitch, I tell ya!

752 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:54 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: jackbill
"Although Lincoln spent several years in the Illinois legislature, it appears that he only ran once for national office before running for President.

In 1858 he lost a race for the Senate.

Shortly later, he won the presidency."

Was 1858 still the time when Senators were elected by State Legislatures, and not directly by the public? I thought it was early 20th Century when the ammendment to the Constitution changed the selection process.

So, Lincoln may have lost an election by Illinois Pols, not the public.

753 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:55 PM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: atlanta67

Florida is just busting with good numbers, thanks to the Bushes(pres and Gov)


754 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:00 PM PDT by italianquaker (CONFIRM THE JUDGES BUSH=MANDATE)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050802/NEWS01/308020014/1056/CINCI

Schmidt: 49,644 votes (50%)
Hackett: 48,751 votes (50%)

Clermont County only one outstanding (52% reporting)


755 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:17 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (Proud Owner of a Fighting West Virginia Mountain Cat)
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To: jackbill

"Can you name any candidate who lost a House election and then went on to win a Senate seat?"

John Kerry

President Bush also lost his first race, which was also for Congress.

Losing a Congressional race isn't necessarily a political death knell. It can make things more difficult though.


756 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:23 PM PDT by justlilolme
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To: Recovering_Democrat

has been static for 30 minutes, that worries me


757 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:24 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Dane

And what is the turnout? I read it might be only 20-25%.


758 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I wish those on the Left would just do us all a favor and take themselves out of their misery.)
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To: jackbill

Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.

-Dan

759 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:42 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: italianquaker

If Jeb were my guv, my spirits would be high too.


760 posted on 08/02/2005 7:16:44 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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