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Four victims of fiery Avon crash identified
WFSB-TV Eyewitness News ^ | August 2, 2005 | AP

Posted on 08/02/2005 12:33:17 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

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To: wideawake
Here it says a trust fund has been set up for Stotler's children. The address is posted at the linked site.
51 posted on 08/02/2005 6:00:11 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Man50D
I can read your posts. If you didn't intend to post what you thought then you should not have posted the comment.

And my comment was, in whole:

Bon Jovi's name was Bongiovanni.

And what was your problem with that?

52 posted on 08/02/2005 7:42:08 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: Man50D
Apparently you don't.

Apparently you have not been around long enough to understand that when a thread is started, any part of the story is liable to get a comment. If you must know, yes, I feel bad for the victims and their families. It is not for you or anyone else, however, to tell me how I'm supposed to feel or respond unless I cross I line of taste, standards or ethics, and that's what the mods are for. If I have commented inappropriately, be assured, there are people who've been here a lot longer than you who will come down hard and make sure I know that I screwed up. Until then, feel free to be sympathetic, but leave the rest of us to mark the news in the way in which it affects us the most.

53 posted on 08/02/2005 8:31:13 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: SlowBoat407
Apparently you have not been around long enough to understand that when a thread is started, any part of the story is liable to get a comment. If you must know, yes, I feel bad for the victims and their families. It is not for you or anyone else, however, to tell me how I'm supposed to feel or respond unless I cross I line of taste, standards or ethics, and that's what the mods are for. If I have commented inappropriately, be assured, there are people who've been here a lot longer than you who will come down hard and make sure I know that I screwed up. Until then, feel free to be sympathetic, but leave the rest of us to mark the news in the way in which it affects us the most.

I have a hard time believing if someone close to you were killed in that or any accident you wouldn't be so light hearted about it. I'm sure if you visited the sight where the accident occurred your perspective would change quickly. This situation derserves more sensitivity than the moderator normally allows. That's not too much to ask.
54 posted on 08/02/2005 9:35:18 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...
UPDATE: 7:08 PM EDT, August 2, 2005
Associated Press

Police: Truck Driver In Fatal Avon Wreck Had Criminal Past

Police believe the driver of the dump truck that caused a fiery chain-reaction crash in Avon had his license suspended for several months last year and had numerous brushes with the law.

Authorities on Tuesday tentatively identified Abdulraheem Naafi, 41, as one of four people who died in the accident.

Naafi also went by the name Terrance R. Stokes and his most recent address appears to be a homeless shelter in Stamford, police said...

The identification is pending verification by the chief medical examiner's office, said Avon police Capt. Mark Rinaldo. Police were still trying to contact Naafi's family on Tuesday.

At the time of the crash, Naafi was facing charges of drug possession, third-degree criminal trespassing and interfering/resisting arrest, according to state police records... Read entire article here

Avon, CT accident - Complete Coverage (Hartford Courant)

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

55 posted on 08/02/2005 9:41:08 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy
UPDATE: 7:08 PM EDT, August 2, 2005
Associated Press

Police: Truck Driver In Fatal Avon Wreck Had Criminal Past

Police believe the driver of the dump truck that caused a fiery chain-reaction crash in Avon had his license suspended for several months last year and had numerous brushes with the law.

Authorities on Tuesday tentatively identified Abdulraheem Naafi, 41, as one of four people who died in the accident.

Naafi also went by the name Terrance R. Stokes and his most recent address appears to be a homeless shelter in Stamford, police said...

The identification is pending verification by the chief medical examiner's office, said Avon police Capt. Mark Rinaldo. Police were still trying to contact Naafi's family on Tuesday.

At the time of the crash, Naafi was facing charges of drug possession, third-degree criminal trespassing and interfering/resisting arrest, according to state police records... Read entire article here

Avon, CT accident - Complete Coverage (Hartford Courant)

56 posted on 08/02/2005 9:44:15 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: SlowBoat407; Man50D
Apparently you have not been around long enough to understand

With his condescending attitude, I doubt he will last very long.

57 posted on 08/02/2005 10:01:00 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: nutmeg

A trust fund has been set up for the poor kids who range in age from 3 to 8. (see link in #51)


58 posted on 08/02/2005 10:02:48 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: SlowBoat407
Muslim in the cockpit!!!

You are SO evil! LOL.

59 posted on 08/02/2005 10:17:14 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: Publius6961
I wonder what "Terrance Stokes" looks like,

Y'mean NOW, or…earlier?

60 posted on 08/02/2005 10:18:26 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: nutmeg

How can a guy who has a criminal record and be facing drug charges get a job as a trucker? Heck - how can he get any job when he is FACING drug charges? (Not to mention that he's out on the streets. One would think bail would be fairly high for someone with multiple offenses.)


61 posted on 08/02/2005 10:29:45 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the update. I suspect ther's alot more to this story yet to be told. Here's the latest on the accident UPDATE August 3, 2005
62 posted on 08/03/2005 3:43:18 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
I have a hard time believing if someone close to you were killed in that or any accident you wouldn't be so light hearted about it. I'm sure if you visited the sight where the accident occurred your perspective would change quickly. This situation derserves more sensitivity than the moderator normally allows. That's not too much to ask.

I have had a number of people close to me killed in accidents. As a journalist, I have been to my share of accidents soon after they occurred and watched the aftermath. I have even had an article that I wrote used as a model for someone's suicide by automobile, so do not presume to know anyone else's heart or mind or in these matters, and most particularly, mine. It is deeply offensive to me that you presume some kind of emotional authority here, and now you are telling the mods how to do their job. Have you considered running for a political post -- as a Democrat?

63 posted on 08/03/2005 4:19:23 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: SlowBoat407
I have had a number of people close to me killed in accidents. As a journalist, I have been to my share of accidents soon after they occurred and watched the aftermath. I have even had an article that I wrote used as a model for someone's suicide by automobile, so do not presume to know anyone else's heart or mind or in these matters, and most particularly, mine. It is deeply offensive to me that you presume some kind of emotional authority here, and now you are telling the mods how to do their job. Have you considered running for a political post -- as a Democrat?

Then you should know better than anyone how much those involved in this tragedy are suffering and making light of the situation can only make it worse for them. You maybe offended but this isn't about you. It's about the victims and their families. The offense you feel is only exceeded by the offense the families of the victims would feel if they saw some of the comments posted in this thread. I'm not telling anyone how to do their job. As I said before it's not too much to ask for people to show a little more sensitivity given the tragedy. I sincerely hope if you or someone you care about is involved in a similar tragedy people will treat you with a more compassion and respect than has been shown by several people in this thread. It's sad you have to reduce this to snide remarks.
64 posted on 08/03/2005 5:01:01 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

I give you the last word on this.


65 posted on 08/03/2005 6:11:32 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: aposiopetic

Thank you for the info.


66 posted on 08/03/2005 6:59:03 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Is anyone annoyed by the restrictive left-turn signals that are infesting more and more of the intersections in state of CT?

It is my belief that more people died and were involved in this accident BECAUSE they were forced to wait for almost two minutes at both left-turn lanes in the Route 44 lanes. The rest of the 44 traffic had green lights but the left-turn lanes can move with the normal flow even if traffic is clear for them. If these lanes were allowed to flow unrestricted by the new traffic signals there might not have been a story to report at all.

What is the feeling of Nutmeg's on this infringement on our freedom to travel the state highways?

Please contact me if there is interest in organizing to do something about this. mailto:dombrowski@cox.net


67 posted on 08/03/2005 7:39:49 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: brytlea; StarFan; Man50D
Gosh, I'm sorry to hear that. My sympathies and my prayers to the families and to you.

Thank you. The Stotler family will need many prayers...

68 posted on 08/03/2005 7:43:50 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan
Contributions can be sent to the Stotler Children’s Trust Fund, c/o Ironwood Capital, 200 Fisher Drive, Avon, Conn., 06001.

Thanks for the heads up on this, StarFan. I may run a separate thread with that article which is linked in #51.

69 posted on 08/03/2005 7:47:50 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Man50D

Thank you for that update in #62. This story gets more and more outrageous, doesn't it? I think I will run a separate thread with the updated story, mostly for people on my CT ping list. Thanks again.


70 posted on 08/03/2005 7:49:59 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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